I think Tomlin has just gotten more and more power and say in all matters. And now with rookie GM who is just a financial guy, he is the defacto GM. Pretty heady stuff for a guy who has won 3 playoff games in the last 11 years.
If Watt doesn't return (and the recent report is he won't due to a knee issue) 1-16 is a possibility
Yep. Watt having surgery this week solidified my point. The Steelers threw in the towel on their season when they changed QBs last week.
I thought that report was that he will be back after the bye in November.
And that's cool, right? Why struggle, claw and scratch to maybe finish 9-8 and another pick around 20-23. I am fine with admitting that you need a talent infusion. But I also think it is time for ownership to put some pressure on Mikey T to bring in some truly upwardly mobile coaches, not friends, hangerson and internal promotions.
It’s not over the top. If you can’t compete for a title, then what’s the point? Sunday showed how far away they are. They aren’t close to the top teams in the league.
I am on record on these forums that last year instead of extending Watt, I would have traded him for a boat load of picks and begun a true rebuild.
Nice. You were right. Admittedly I wasn’t thinking that way then and I was wrong not to. The Steelers were either arrogant or ignorant not to realize the state of the team.
I recall. The problem with Watt has always been injuries. Apparently there was a knee issue that needed fixed, too. Great player when he's healthy.
lol at your first sentence, it’s exactly what i say about Pitt sports (and the Pirates), and I’m shouted down, that somehow it’s ridiculous that Pitt should be genuinely trying to compete for national championships; we should just enjoy the “experience”.
Well here's the thing, everybody was looking at "well they made the playoffs" but what they seemed to fail to acknowledge over these last few years is they barely made the playoffs, and they were so far away from the KC's, Buffalo's, etc...it didn't matter. And this great defense has 3 great players and 8 mediocre to bad players. The offense is just a clusterF starting with the Offensive Coordinator.
It’s on Rooney. I don’t think he has any passion for winning. None.
Yeah, this and only this. It might be good enough to just make the playoffs in places like Detroit but this franchise needs to actually win games when it gets there.
Maybe but they've backed themselves into a corner with Tomlin. The league celebrates his "success" and the club hasn't pull on the reigns at all with some of the decision making with the coaching staff.
Bingo. I was thinking about that. Rudolph is the only steeler QB to lead them on a 1st quarter TD drive, and I could be wrong, but I think it’s up to like 30 games now. 30 games!!! When you have a HOF QB for part of that, and 3 other QB’s…it’s a trend that’s alarming and shouldn’t be blamed on the QB’s.
I agree. He seems satisfied with a "winning" record and being a playoff contender. I am in my 50's, so yeah been around awhile. And yes, I do recognize being spoiled and entitled as a Steelers fan. So what. That is what this franchise has been for 50 years.
I’m somewhat of a Tomlin guy. I like him and think that he can lead and win in the right environment. But he can’t do it in this one. I follow another sport where a current legend of a coach has always said that you have 7 years at a place and then you should move on. I’m not saying that’s always the case, but I do agree that it often is. Tomlin should have left after 7 years here and succeeded somewhere else.
I don't have disdain for Tomlin but he really wasted Ben's career and it's been a long time since they hired an OC that is competent.
Wasted Ben's career. How many NFL careers have been wasted over the years? Drew Brees? Brett Favre? Aaron Rodgers? Peyton Manning? Wasted Ben's career. Ben played in a 32 team league and won two Super Bowls in his career. It's time to kick this term to the curb.
McCarty had the better QB and a way way easier path to the Super Bowl. Same with Sean Payton in New Orleans.
Oh yes. I forgot, anti war is no longer part of your platform, and someone who has been anti war their whole life is now a fan of Putin.
Ben won one Super Bowl with Tomlin and both were with a roster full of talented players that Tomlin had little to do with. Eight playoff wins in his first four years. After that, they missed the playoffs five times and won less playoff games than they did those first four years. The Steelers did little to nothing in the post season while Ben was playing at his peak.
That’s what makes the notion amusing that Tomlin is some kind of coach whisperer. He’s fine. He’s a good, solid coach. He’s just not an elite coach, or he would have done at least a bit more with the talent he has had through the years. It’s not a nefarious agenda to point this out, simply an objective observation. Not calling for him to be fired, or yearning for him to retire, or anything else I’d be canceled for … it’s because as I’ve noted before about Pitt coaches, it’s not just about getting rid of the current guy, it’s more about who they’d replace the guy with, which is a total wildcard.
In the last 5 years, many coaches. Over his career, much smaller list.
Who has done more than Tomlin/Ben?
Exactly, everyone realized immediately that the Khan move was a de facto promotion of Tomlin to GM as well as HC. They don’t call it that in order to spread the pain in case they fail, and especially if they fail due to obvious poor drafts or foolhardy trades. That insulates Tomlin, as they can make Khan the fall guy. But it would have to collapse pretty low for them to do that, either.
