He also wouldn’t have come here?Not a joke. I think Sampson would have done better than Stallings/Capel. Anyone agree?
He also wouldn’t have come here?Not a joke. I think Sampson would have done better than Stallings/Capel. Anyone agree?
That wasn’t the point I’m sure even though this was so long ago.
1 - they’d not likely have come here
2 - even if they would Pitt wasn’t touching either one of them.
I have no doubt they’d have done better. Then or now.
Pitt was toxic at the time for coaches because fans and administration let the most successful coach in PITT’s history who accomplished what most in the industry didn’t believe was possible at Pitt walk. What don’t you understand about that? Houston is AT LEAST a good of a job. They have a better history, better recruiting base and more money than God. Why on earth would he have tried to follow Jamie when he could build his own thing at Houston like he has?Sampson was 13-19 and 22-10 in his first 2 years at Houston, which was a bottom tier AAC program at the time when Dixon left.
Maybe he wouldn't have taken the Pitt job but lets not pretend it would have been impossible. We were a few years removed from a 1 seed and Houston was a bad program at the time. And why wouldn't Pitt consider him if he wanted to come? Because he had some recruiting violations, which were relatively minor in scope, though the NCAA hit him pretty good?
Pitt was toxic at the time for coaches because fans and administration let the most successful coach in PITT’s history who accomplished what most in the industry didn’t believe was possible at Pitt walk. What don’t you understand about that? Houston is AT LEAST a good of a job. They have a better history, better recruiting base and more money than God. Why on earth would he have tried to follow Jamie when he could build his own thing at Houston like he has?
Money. Location. Ability to win.Houston was a dump which hadnt won since Phi Slamma Jamma. That's like saying Duquese is a great job because Norm Nixon won there. You're better than this.....I think.
Money. Location. Ability to win.
Better job than Pitt. Inarguable. Unless you don’t know college basketball at all, well… nvm
Coaches agree with me, as Nate Oats did not want the Pitt job. And of course since coaches are the ones taking the job, they’re the only ones who matters. Not the people who already live in Pittsburgh.Inarguable? Houston was dead for 30 years. Sampson is a HOF level coach. That's why they are winning. He would win anywhere. No one agrees with you that Dead Houston was a better job than Pitt. Barnes and Lyke messed up bad. That's on them. But Stallings and Capel werent the best 2 coaches who would have taken the job. Nate Oats wanted it at a premium ($1 million-$2 million more per season than what we offered) but we went cheap.
Pitt had a 7 year stretch...think you need to add a few years to that...It's hard for me to place where Pitt really is as a program. People call others homers, but then when evaluating Pitt take a homer view as if we are some great program with an exalted history. Pitt had a 7 year stretch. Now we are saying a 3-5 year mediocre stretch. The cupboard isn't entirely bare, but what top/hot coach would light his hair on fire to get here, even for more money, if his current gig is good? If I was a betting man, which i am not, I suspect a mid major coach who has had some success. That seems to be our m.o., soccer coach notwithstanding.
Coaches agree with me, as Nate Oats did not want the Pitt job. And of course since coaches are the ones taking the job, they’re the only ones who matters. Not the people who already live in Pittsburgh.
I don’t know, scraping together a couple nickels from a trucking guy or having billionaire Fertitta funding everything and being on the board of regents? Hmm…
I know you don’t understand college hoops or coaches at all, but you’re slightly better than this awful take.
We didn’t offer him 3 million. He didn’t inquire about the job. He didn’t want the job. Sometimes I wonder how you get so destroyed on 1 point that you try to change to some other hypothetical argument that isn’t based in reality either.Oats didn't exactly want the job but would have taken it for around $5 million. He probably knew we wouldn't go that high which is why he floated it. We offered him $3 million. Now would he had turned down the $5 million if we were able to come up with it? We'll never know because we went cheap.
We didn’t offer him 3 million. He didn’t inquire about the job. He didn’t want the job. Sometimes I wonder how you get so destroyed on 1 point that you try to change to some other hypothetical argument that isn’t based in reality either.
Houston could pay him 5 million without blinking. Better job.
Yes, this was not remotely accurate. Shocking, I know.Dan Hurley is off the board. Where does Pitt turn now?
Pitt is reportedly in contact with Buffalo coach Nate Oats, who is fresh off a 27-9 season and a Mid-American Conference title.www.post-gazette.com
Didnt prosser enter the portal too ?Of course there’s always a first. And I certainly agree that if Pitt is willing and able to overpay a little the odds increase.
But when’s the last time Pitt hired a name guy, either established or flavor of the day?
Prosser I guess was close but he bailed. Matta reportedly interviewed but pffffft, who cares.
Yes, this was not remotely accurate. Shocking, I know.
He may have had one chat with someone at Pitt to get his extension, as he was advised by his mentor Dan Hurley not to consider the Pitt job. He absolutely was not gonna leave with his entire team returning because he was waiting for a big job.
Sure. 10 million. An amount Houston could write a check for and not blink but Pitt couldn’t. Better job. Got it?Yes, you are the only source of Nate Oats info. How much would Oats have come for? Or Sampson for that matter? Would $10 million per have done it?
Sure. 10 million. An amount Houston could write a check for and not blink but Pitt couldn’t. Better job. Got it?
You do know how Oats got his start right? They played Lyke for the raise with his best MAC team coming back
They couldn’t have paid 7 million either? Why are you like thisOK, so it would have taken $10 million per to get Oats and Sampson? How about $7 million?
They couldn’t have paid 7 million either? Why are you like this
I didn’t say it was an elite job. I said it’s a better job than Pitt. It’s inarguably a better job than Pitt.My point is that we could have anyone for the right price. I think both would have taken $5 million. Houston was dead and despite what you think, its not an elite job. They were a joke for 30 years.