The CFP selection committee is inconsistent and makes no sense

[HailToPitt725]

Final playoff spot: Chooses Alabama over undefeated FSU because they have the better team and conference allocation

G5 NY6 spot: Chooses undefeated Liberty over SMU despite the Mustangs having the better team and conference affiliation

One, or likely both, of these statements are true: the committee has preconceived bias when it comes to conference affiliation, and they don’t care who represents the G5.

 

[rpastir]

Based on this example (and their history) both seem to be true.

 

[pittmeister]

When the playoffs expand to 12 teams, then most of this will be solved.

 

[BFo8]

When the playoffs expand to 12 teams, then most of this will be solved.

It certainly will be for the most part. There will still be arguments about the teams that were left out, but they won’t carry as much weight. This year LSU finished #13, if they were excluded from a 12 team tournament I don’t think anyone but their fans would care that much.

Sooner or later we will go to 16 teams and I’m sure the fans of #17 will complain as well. This year #17 was the infamous Iowa Hawkeyes.

 

[CJsE]

Final playoff spot: Chooses Alabama over undefeated FSU because they have the better team and conference allocation

G5 NY6 spot: Chooses undefeated Liberty over SMU despite the Mustangs having the better team and conference affiliation

One, or likely both, of these statements are true: the committee has preconceived bias when it comes to conference affiliation, and they don’t care who represents the G5.

It's a group of 13 people voting individually. Of course everyone is going to have their own bias, but the room has a good range of opinions when trying to compare the records of 130+ teams that all play wildly different schedules.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Final playoff spot: Chooses Alabama over undefeated FSU because they have the better team and conference allocation

G5 NY6 spot: Chooses undefeated Liberty over SMU despite the Mustangs having the better team and conference affiliation

One, or likely both, of these statements are true: the committee has preconceived bias when it comes to conference affiliation, and they don’t care who represents the G5.

Liberty 13-0
SMU 11-2

SMU played a more difficult schedule but there's a 2 game difference. That's too much. If the difference was one game, then SMU goes

 

[h2p_5150]

Florida State being 5th makes no sense. If you are saying they stink without Travis, how can you rank them ahead of Georgia Oregon and Ohio State?

 

[TD_6082]

Florida State being 5th makes no sense. If you are saying they stink without Travis, how can you rank them ahead of Georgia Oregon and Ohio State?

SEC Commish Greg Sankey said it best on one of the GameDay shows yesterday when asked if he was concerned about the SEC getting left out. His response was, "That's just not the real world."

They might as well have taken Georgia over Texas. I mean what happens on the field either matters, or it doesn't.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

SEC Commish Greg Sankey said it best on one of the GameDay shows yesterday when asked if he was concerned about the SEC getting left out. His response was, "That's just not the real world."

They might as well have taken Georgia over Texas. I mean what happens on the field either matters, or it doesn't.

Bama was getting left out if Travis was healthy

 

[Parkview57]

Hmm...the people in power have no integrity, what a surprise.

 

[HailToPitt725]

Florida State being 5th makes no sense. If you are saying they stink without Travis, how can you rank them ahead of Georgia Oregon and Ohio State?

Exactly. Also, how were they still the 4th best team in the country the week after Travis was ruled out for the year but somehow got worse after defeating the 15th-ranked team?

 

[TD_6082]

Bama was getting left out if Travis was healthy

They could have easily taken Bama over Texas and claimed better overall resume.

 

[Las Panteras]

They could have easily taken Bama over Texas and claimed better overall resume.

As others have stated in this thread, preconceived bias.

As an example: Michigan has two solid wins and beat a hapless Iowa team

FSU beats LSU, decent Clemson team and Florida in the swamp.

The rest of the W's for both teams matter little.

The difference between each teams best wins is minimal.

Yet....the hype of the OSU- Mich game and to a lesser degree Mich-PSU must mean they have a better resume than Fla State.

Not defending FSU here, but all season long the mood was they are good but the body of work is below Michigan.

In my view, if the body of work is not equal its not that far off.

Michigan beat 2 good teams all year.

 

[CJsE]

As others have stated in this thread, preconceived bias.

As an example: Michigan has two solid wins and beat a hapless Iowa team

FSU beats LSU, decent Clemson team and Florida in the swamp.

The rest of the W's for both teams matter little.

The difference between each teams best wins is minimal.

Yet....the hype of the OSU- Mich game and to a lesser degree Mich-PSU must mean they have a better resume than Fla State.

Not defending FSU here, but all season long the mood was they are good but the body of work is below Michigan.

In my view, if the body of work is not equal its not that far off.

Michigan beat 2 good teams all year.

Sure they only played 3 tough teams all season, but Michigan’s 2 quality wins were far better than any of FSU’s wins and their Iowa win is as good as either of FSU’s other wins. The games they should have won, they won decisively.

Florida went 5-7 and lost their final 5 games but you’re considering that a quality win for FSU?

 

[Las Panteras]

Sure they only played 3 tough teams all season, but Michigan’s 2 quality wins were far better than any of FSU’s wins and their Iowa win is as good as either of FSU’s other wins. The games they should have won, they won decisively.

Florida went 5-7 and lost their final 5 games but you’re considering that a quality win for FSU?

I dont know if i would call it a quality win,

But it shouldn't be dismissed as just another W for FSU.

In Gainesville, backup QB in first start, against a team with equal athletes.

 

[FireballZ]

Sure they only played 3 tough teams all season, but Michigan’s 2 quality wins were far better than any of FSU’s wins and their Iowa win is as good as either of FSU’s other wins. The games they should have won, they won decisively.

Florida went 5-7 and lost their final 5 games but you’re considering that a quality win for FSU?

OSU needed a fluke play to beat Notre Dame, otherwise they beat nobody, but PSU, who beat nobody except Iowa, who beat nobody. Michigan hasn't beaten anyone that has beaten anyone except the recycled crap in your conference. LSU, Louisville, Clemson and at Florida are on a similar level to Michigan's resume, if not better.

 

[HailToPitt725]

OSU needed a fluke play to beat Notre Dame, otherwise they beat nobody, but PSU, who beat nobody except Iowa, who beat nobody. Michigan hasn't beaten anyone that has beaten anyone except the recycled crap in your conference. LSU, Louisville, Clemson and at Florida are on a similar level to Michigan's resume, if not better.

Exactly. And to build off this:

• The ACC was 6-4 against the SEC, who was 7-9 against non-conference P5 opponents
• The ACC was also 4-3 against the Big Ten
• The ACC has a better non-conference win (FSU over LSU) than anything the Big Ten or SEC has based on the final CFP rankings

The idea that the Big Ten and SEC’s best teams blow the ACC’s out of the water is archaic and not true.

 

[CJsE]

I dont know if i would call it a quality win,

But it shouldn't be dismissed as just another W for FSU.

In Gainesville, backup QB in first start, against a team with equal athletes.

Against a Florida team that had lost 4 straight games including 20+ point losses to LSU and Georgia. A Florida team that lost at home to an Arkansas team that went 1-7 in SEC play 3 weeks prior. A Florida team that was also starting their backup QB in his first career start against FSU.

Sure it was a decent win, but not even close to as good as a win against OSU, PSU, or Iowa.

 

[sonofabit]

I dont know if i would call it a quality win,

But it shouldn't be dismissed as just another W for FSU.

In Gainesville, backup QB in first start, against a team with equal athletes.

The word you were looking for is rivalry…

 

[Pitt79]

When the playoffs expand to 12 teams, then most of this will be solved.

That's what you think. They'll go out of their way to argue against conference champions and fight hard to make it 6 SEC teams and 4 B1G teams because, well, they are always "really better'

 

[pbrad]

SEC came in with a lot of cash.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

SEC came in with a lot of cash.

Or maybe Alabama beat the #1 team, matched FSU's best win (LSU) and didnt have any team-altering injuries

 

[Pitt79]

Or maybe Alabama beat the #1 team, matched FSU's best win (LSU) and didnt have any team-altering injuries

They were lucky the FSU QB got injured, or they were in danger of having to leave out their beloved SEC. If it was 3 unbeaten P5 championship teams at full strength, and Texas, who beat beloved Bama, would they have bit the bullet and screwed Texas with the standard 'Bama is always really better no matter what" argument? Or done the right thing and left Bama and the SEC out?