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The Quarterback whose name shall not be mentioned gets some payback against the Stillers

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Im surprised this has not been mentioned here.

Darius Slay credited Pickett with helping the Eagles defense prepare for what the Steelers were doing on offense while speaking on his podcast, Big Play Slay, Tuesday.

He also said that the Eagles “had to get the win” against the Steelers for the Eagles quarterback.

“Not (Jalen) Hurts, not Hurts,” Slay said. “We’re talking about Kenny, Kenny Pickett, because he’s a great dude. Without Kenny Pickett, I think our defense — I don’t want to say wouldn’t be great because we wanted to be great regardless, but Kenny has been giving us a great look on scout team.

“I’m talking about a damn great look even when we play scrambling quarterbacks, (when) we play guys with strong arms, because he can do it all. He’s got a strong arm, he can run around, he can make plays with his legs, everything. So, he’s done a lot to help us get ready and be ready for these games. So, shoutout to Kenny. We wanted to get this dub for you, too, because we knew how important it was.

“Everybody wants to beat the team that traded them away. Definitely like it was nothing, and his situation was like, hey, they brought in a whole new quarterback, two quarterbacks, another former first round quarterback, so I understand where he’s coming from. But yeah, we did that for you, Kenny. So, shoutout to my boy Kenny for helping us prepare for this week, giving us tips about what to look for because he’s been in that room with them.”

 
In hindsight it was pretty obvious that KP needed a mentor @ QB to build from rather than be placed into a starting role so soon. I almost wish that he had been drafted by sky team other than the Steelers. Too much pressure to perform, and the offense wasn't designed to suit his style
seeing alot of success stories for qbs who failed at first and a few years later, looking good. Darnold, Geno SMith, ok, that's all i got but im sure there are more..

Thats good for Kenny, he will get another chance to make it as a starter.
 
seeing alot of success stories for qbs who failed at first and a few years later, looking good. Darnold, Geno SMith, ok, that's all i got but im sure there are more..

Thats good for Kenny, he will get another chance to make it as a starter.
Similarly there are guys many thought were either going to be all world (Levis) or were already top level QBs (Purdy Stroud) who have struggled this year

The point is much of the Qbs success is a function of things that are out of his control (talent around him and OC). IMO the single most important factor is the OL. Show me a really good OL and I’ll show you a pretty Good qb

In other news the Bears No 1 pick sucks again
 
Similarly there are guys many thought were either going to be all world (Levis) or were already top level QBs (Purdy Stroud) who have struggled this year

The point is much of the Qbs success is a function of things that are out of his control (talent around him and OC). IMO the single most important factor is the OL. Show me a really good OL and I’ll show you a pretty Good qb

In other news the Bears No 1 pick sucks again
this qb salary explosion is insane. and my beloved steelers will have to make some tough decisions this year. look no further than the Falcons right now. 4 year deal for what? 160 million to a guy who is on the bench and could be cut.

You have to over pay for a good qb but you also apparently have to over pay for a qb who could be past his prime and suck. i mean, do you go big with someone like Sam Darnold? Dude will be wanting 40m a year in off season. he could be good or if you dont have Jefferson and addison, could be a mediocre qb. so what do you do?

Russ is obviously going to get big time offers, what do you do?
 
Best game he’s played in mfl.oh wait he didn’t play.He has a strong arm,that should tell you that slay is just making shit up.
 
Im surprised this has not been mentioned here.

Darius Slay credited Pickett with helping the Eagles defense prepare for what the Steelers were doing on offense while speaking on his podcast, Big Play Slay, Tuesday.

He also said that the Eagles “had to get the win” against the Steelers for the Eagles quarterback.

“Not (Jalen) Hurts, not Hurts,” Slay said. “We’re talking about Kenny, Kenny Pickett, because he’s a great dude. Without Kenny Pickett, I think our defense — I don’t want to say wouldn’t be great because we wanted to be great regardless, but Kenny has been giving us a great look on scout team.

“I’m talking about a damn great look even when we play scrambling quarterbacks, (when) we play guys with strong arms, because he can do it all. He’s got a strong arm, he can run around, he can make plays with his legs, everything. So, he’s done a lot to help us get ready and be ready for these games. So, shoutout to Kenny. We wanted to get this dub for you, too, because we knew how important it was.

“Everybody wants to beat the team that traded them away. Definitely like it was nothing, and his situation was like, hey, they brought in a whole new quarterback, two quarterbacks, another former first round quarterback, so I understand where he’s coming from. But yeah, we did that for you, Kenny. So, shoutout to my boy Kenny for helping us prepare for this week, giving us tips about what to look for because he’s been in that room with them.”

That's good to hear. Seriously. Makes you wonder more what the hell happened here.
 
That's good to hear. Seriously. Makes you wonder more what the hell happened here.
There were so many moving parts back when KP was inserted as starting QB. It does make you wonder how much was him, how much were the other prima donnas on the Steelers team then, how much was the pressure of not performing up to both the team's and the fans'/press' expectations
 
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seeing alot of success stories for qbs who failed at first and a few years later, looking good. Darnold, Geno SMith, ok, that's all i got but im sure there are more..

Thats good for Kenny, he will get another chance to make it as a starter.
Yeah but we read on our boards all the time how he doesn’t have a pro arm (even that’s not was in his counting report out of his combine/pro days.

I believe on this board the phrase was noodle arm? I can’t remember.
 
Either way it’s kind of funny
What I think is funny is how people credit Rudolph (who I like) for saving the Steelers season and getting them into the playoffs. As if Kenny’s record as a starter when healthy last year wasn’t playoff worthy and the team didn’t instantly look different when Canada was fired.

The only reason the Steelers season needed “salvaged” was due to hanging on to Canada too long, Kenny’s health, and Mitch’s 0-fer record when he played.
 
Yeah but we read on our boards all the time how he doesn’t have a pro arm (even that’s not was in his counting report out of his combine/pro days.

I believe on this board the phrase was noodle arm? I can’t remember.
meh, arm strength is average at best to be honest. def not his strong point
 
What I think is funny is how people credit Rudolph (who I like) for saving the Steelers season and getting them into the playoffs. As if Kenny’s record as a starter when healthy last year wasn’t playoff worthy and the team didn’t instantly look different when Canada was fired.

The only reason the Steelers season needed “salvaged” was due to hanging on to Canada too long, Kenny’s health, and Mitch’s 0-fer record when he played.
love you FK but Mason rudolph absolutely saved the season with his play at the end of that season. both WRs said so..

he came in and threw for 275 then 290 in an offense where that want even possible..

i know, we love kenny, pitt guy and all but that's not even up for debate. we dont have to diminish Rudolph's play at the end of last season, kenny wont be mad
 
love you FK but Mason rudolph absolutely saved the season with his play at the end of that season. both WRs said so..

he came in and threw for 275 then 290 in an offense where that want even possible..

i know, we love kenny, pitt guy and all but that's not even up for debate. we dont have to diminish Rudolph's play at the end of last season, kenny wont be mad
I don’t think Rudy piles up the stats and saves the season with Oh Canada calling plays

I like Rudy. I think he’s a decent qb and a team could win with him witb the right talent around him. see Sam Darnold
 
love you FK but Mason rudolph absolutely saved the season with his play at the end of that season. both WRs said so..

he came in and threw for 275 then 290 in an offense where that want even possible..

i know, we love kenny, pitt guy and all but that's not even up for debate. we dont have to diminish Rudolph's play at the end of last season, kenny wont be mad
I mean I can get specific and refute some things but I’m not interested in a back and forth during this Vball game. But our record under Kenny was playoff level. Mason beat the ravens. Kenny beat the ravens. The season wouldn’t have needed saved if Mitch doesn’t play and lose to the worst two teams in football at home.
 
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I don’t think Rudy piles up the stats and saves the season with Oh Canada calling plays

I like Rudy. I think he’s a decent qb and a team could win with him witb the right talent around him. see Sam Darnold
possibly on canada, he sucks so no argument there..

Rudolph is a good backup, i dont want him as a starter. He's a white charlie batch, can win you a few games when needed but you cant roll with him as your starter in game one..

I kind of like darnold but again, it's one year and he is in a great system with Jefferson and Addison, and that tight end is good too. Someone is going to pay him big bucks in off season and he could be a Goff or he could be a one hit wonder. we'll see.
 
I don’t think Rudy piles up the stats and saves the season with Oh Canada calling plays

I like Rudy. I think he’s a decent qb and a team could win with him witb the right talent around him. see Sam Darnold
Not to mention that after Canada Kenny was like 28 of 40 for 350 yards or whatever it was. Then he got hurt, Mason came in, and kept the post Canada train rolling.
 
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seeing alot of success stories for qbs who failed at first and a few years later, looking good. Darnold, Geno SMith, ok, that's all i got but im sure there are more..

Thats good for Kenny, he will get another chance to make it as a starter.
Bradshaw, Plunkett, Steve Young, Ron Jaworski, Len Dawson, Joe Theisman, Doug Williams.

There's many reasons a good QB can look awful at first like bad situation, lack of maturity or confidence, etc.

It seems to have been more common in the past. Maybe the money makes it tougher for high rounders to persevere? Its cheaper to just draft again or develop a low rounder.
 
Not to mention that after Canada Kenny was like 28 of 40 for 350 yards or whatever it was. Then he got hurt, Mason came in, and kept the post Canada train rolling.
350 yards lol. yeah, i dont recall that. kenny has never sniffed 350 yards. cant imagine he ever got more than 300 in his career.

maybe that game against buffalo when we were down 50 points at halftime and they were puling fans out of the stands to play on defense cause the game was over..
 
350 yards lol. yeah, i dont recall that. kenny has never sniffed 350 yards. cant imagine he ever got more than 300 in his career.

maybe that game against buffalo when we were down 50 points at halftime and they were puling fans out of the stands to play on defense cause the game was over..
It was over the 5 quarters he played post Canada befor he got hurt. Not knocking you Zelda but it frustrates me that people have such short memories.

Edit: 31/43 for 348 yards.

Then Mitch took over for a 7-4 team…and well it got ugly for a few games until my boy Mason came in.
 
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seeing alot of success stories for qbs who failed at first and a few years later, looking good. Darnold, Geno SMith, ok, that's all i got but im sure there are more..

Thats good for Kenny, he will get another chance to make it as a starter.

Any grading and opinions on KP as a starter are largely speculative because of how dysfunctional the stillers have been.
 
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It was over the 5 quarters he played post Canada befor he got hurt. Not knocking you Zelda but it frustrates me that people have such short memories.

Edit: 31/43 for 348 yards.

Then Mitch took over for a 7-4 team…and well it got ugly for a few games until my boy Mason came in.
Ok. If you go over a 2 game span then I guess those numbers look better.

Can we use two games for Mason too?
 
Ok. If you go over a 2 game span then I guess those numbers look better.

Can we use two games for Mason too?
How about this.

KP vs Ravens last year
18/32 for 234 and 1 TD

MR vs Ravens last year
18/20 for 152 and 1 TD

But Mason gets love for his win, no one remembers KPs, because it was before the losing streak when Kenny was hurt and the recency bias that followed.
 
Rudolph played the Ravens in a freaking monsoon!

And he was good.

The point is being lost.

Mason didn’t rescue the season from Kenny.

The Steelers were 7-4 when kenny went out.

The Steelers lost every game Mitch played in.

If one wants to say Mason rescued the Steelers season, fine. But let’s be accurate as to why the season needed rescued.
 
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How about this.

KP vs Ravens last year
18/32 for 234 and 1 TD

MR vs Ravens last year
18/20 for 152 and 1 TD

But Mason gets love for his win, no one remembers KPs, because it was before the losing streak when Kenny was hurt and the recency bias that followed.
Didn't Rudolph play against a watered down Ravens squad that rested a bunch of regulars before the playoffs? That might have helped.
 
And he was good.

The point is being lost.

Mason didn’t rescue the season from Kenny.

The Steelers were 7-4 when kenny went out.

The Steelers lost every game Mitch played in.

If one wants to say Mason rescued the Steelers season, fine. But let’s be accurate as to why the season needed rescued.
Rudy also played against a Ravens D that rested starters as they had clinched the division.
 
The biggest mistake the stillers made was drafting a QB without a plan to develop a young QB.
True.

But also the biggest mistake the Steelers made was a series of mistakes that included Najee Harris, Artie Burns and Terrell Edmunds and that was going into those drafts looking for a specific position in rd 1 instead of the best player.
 
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