This is by far the best LB group we’ve had since the 2000s Super Bowl teams and has to be the best core in the league right now.
Update: Russell Wilson signing with Steelers per Schefter
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Including depth. Definitely a nice group, in my opinion.
Come on Meister, you’re obviously reading the wrong sources. We’ve already had a few in here panning it as a meh signing.
I sure don’t know what the expectations are, we sure had a hole at ILB and this sure looks like a decent signing to help fill that hole based on player talent and $.
Kind of like the hole at QB. Would I have preferred a Kirk Cousins, sure except for the unrealistic price tag. If not a starter, Wilson ends up being a way cheaper backup than what Rudolph or anyone else would have been.
All of the AFC playoff QBs were either Superman (Mahomes, Allen, Lamar), the product of elite scheme (Tua), both (Stroud) or kind of weird ugly ducklings that had no upside and got killed (Browns, Steelers). And the first 4 guys were all drafted by their teams.
I think to win it all you either need elite talent, elite coaching, or both. And you probably need a self-drafted QB unless you luck out and have a really good situation that aligns perfectly with an elite older available QB's window (Brady, Stafford). I don't think we have any of that. Russ over Kenny maybe gets us 1% closer to winning it all but it's not really a meaningful improvement IMO. And to the extent we're giving up on draft picks we need to fix the coaching first. Too many guys are getting squandered, leaving the building, and playing good ball elsewhere.
Or they think Wilson can win more games now, while giving Pickett a little more time to develop.
I can't make any definitive statements, because there are always exceptions. Flacco won one; Kapernick damn near won one; Purdy almost won one; Foles... the list goes on. Hell, even Eli Manning is overrated as hell, and he won two.
But I do know that 8/10 I'm either finding one of the handful of guys worth paying elite money to or going with a cheap rookie at QB and building around him while seeing if he becomes elite in the seasons before it's time to pay him. That middle tier just seems to give you the worst of both worlds - especially when you start getting into that $25 - $40M range. So many of those guys suck and consume way too much money (again, always exceptions).
Buddy -
Yet all these other players are in the same
Position - and have deals in hand
Denver absolutely tanked 5 seasons with the Russell trade
2 firsts , 2 seconds and a 5th pick was included
You’re delusional
You’re not cleverJust like when you say Canada, Canada, Canada. Oh Ca-na-da why did you make Kenny bad, without you he's greatactually I hope you're right and suddenly Kenny makes a miraculous turnaround.
Yes
It’s a show me something deal for Russell
It’s a better Dewayne Haskins type of deal
He's 30. He may be slowing down some, but he's still a handful. He can still put up 1,000 yd seasons.
If it's a real competition I can't see Kenny getting the #1 job? I think it's Kenny who has to do the most actually SHOWING, unless they just hand him the job with no regard for performance. Will be a lot of pressure on Kenny if he starts and he's throwing for 160 yards per game and one TD every other game and the offense is still scoring 16ppg it's not going to be pretty.
At 8m a year, the Ravens think he has something left. That’s more than a lot of good backs are getting.
What have you seen from Pickett that makes you think he beat out Wilson?
If he does, he's going to have to be better than he's shown so far.
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Maybe. He just had a decent season. But 30 is the magic number for most RBs. He’s a freak so ya never know but he’s a load and RBs get old quick.
This article repeats alot of what some posters here have said about how the Steelers "handled" Pickett, and would a change of scenery help him. Good read.
www.cbssports.com
With Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh, Steelers should trade Kenny Pickett to NFC team that needs quarterback help
A fresh start is best for Pickett and the Steelers
www.cbssports.com
CBS Sports Grade on Queen signing:
Steelers signing Patrick Queen:
It wasn't cheap, but the Pittsburgh Steelers made a notable move Tuesday with the reported signing of former Ravens linebacker Patrick Queen to a three-year, $41 million deal.
A Pro Bowler last season and a former Ravens first-round pick, Queen fills what was a sizable need in the middle of Pittsburgh's defense. Queen is a physical, hard-hitting player who is also versatile. Last season, he filled the stat sheet with 133 tackles, 3.5 sacks, an interception and a forced fumble.
The addition of Queen adds yet another Pro Bowl-level player to a Steelers defense that already includes T.J. Watt, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alex Highsmith and Cam Heyward.
GRADE A
Steelers signing Patrick Queen:
It wasn't cheap, but the Pittsburgh Steelers made a notable move Tuesday with the reported signing of former Ravens linebacker Patrick Queen to a three-year, $41 million deal.
A Pro Bowler last season and a former Ravens first-round pick, Queen fills what was a sizable need in the middle of Pittsburgh's defense. Queen is a physical, hard-hitting player who is also versatile. Last season, he filled the stat sheet with 133 tackles, 3.5 sacks, an interception and a forced fumble.
The addition of Queen adds yet another Pro Bowl-level player to a Steelers defense that already includes T.J. Watt, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alex Highsmith and Cam Heyward.
GRADE A
Not much had happened with anyone when you made that comment, but since you want to talk about now:
As of now there are at least nine QBs that have already agreed to deals, including such luminaries as Drew Lock and Jameis Winston. But still no Mason Rudolph.
How is he worse than Kenny?
I'm not anti-Pickett in any way. I still think there's a chance he develops into a good NFL starter. But how can anyone possibly say Wilson is worse based on what we've seen so far?
The same way people on here say all kinds of nonsense.
I think it was Einstein who said, “Nothing makes a man more valuable than the time he spends arguing about sports stuff.”
I don't know what that has to do with my thoughts that the Steelers are further away than most people realize but thank you for sharing.
There's an argument that Kenny is better because wis W/L record is better as if he was the main factor in winning, and "Stats" like TOUCHDOWN PASSES don't matter, the battle cry is "the only stat I care about is Ws", as if scoring more TDs won't result in scoring more points and maybe more wins and the game not being totally hopeless if the opponent scores 28-30 points.
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Better than 1st and goal, run, run, incomplete pass thrown short of the end zone, FG.
He averaged 6.9 y/a last season. Patrick Mahomes averaged 7.0. I guess Mahomes dinked and dunked his way to an super bowl ring.
Just showing you how stupid your cherry picked stats are. So yeah, I compared him to the QB most people would say is the best. Who should we compare him to? I'll let you pick.
Maybe the point was that he threw mostly short passes because his arm is shot. Hes the new savior that will be boo'd out of the stadium when he stinks out the joint after 2-3 games. Fatboy is already making excuses saying the steelers need to add more talent on Offense for Russ to do his thing LOL
That's true, they only have 2 WRs who played at all in the offense last year after getting rid of Robinson and Johnson. Wilson is not looked upon as a savior, but reality is, if Kenny had been good even a little bit, he wouldn't be here.
I just explained why Kenny can win
The Steelers invested less in Russ than they did Mason Rudolph last year
There you go. Rudolph just agreed to a deal with the Titans. Apparently one year, $3.5 million.
Aditi pretty much said on the fan it would behoove Kenny to seek a trade considering what has happened the last few years and the conversation he had with the Steelers a few weeks back prior to them going out and signing Wilson
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