If he's wasn't told he'd the starter, he'd be much better off taking his $38m and sitting on his couch and waiting for someone from a better team to get hurt.
I guess he could demand a release or pull a James Harrison / LeGarrette Blount to get cut.
Update: Russell Wilson signing with Steelers per Schefter
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I guess he could demand a release or pull a James Harrison / LeGarrette Blount to get cut.
I don’t see how potentially sitting out for weeks makes him more likely to be brought in as a starter. There’s a lot of offenses where he just wouldn’t fit. He is a potential fit here.
That being said, respect your posts, so let’s agree to disagree. H2P!
Pickett is bad, that's not hyperbole, he's done next to nothing
Trubisky II...Just when you thought it was safe to cross back over the river....
Well, you kind of removed the context of what I said, but The Broncos are paying Russell Wilson $38 million whether he plays or not. The only way the Broncos would pay less is if another team pays him more. Why would anyone else tab pick up the tab for the Broncos?
The point was that if that $38 million from the Broncos didn't exist, a team would likely be offering him much more than the vet minimum.
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Interesting take:
triblive.com
"he doesn’t throw the ball in the middle of the football field, he doesn’t anticipate throws."
"he doesn’t process what he sees well, doesn’t throw with anticipation and said any offense would have to be “limited”
He's not talking about Kenny. He's talking about Wilson...
First Call: Former Bronco rips Russell Wilson, praises his fit in Pittsburgh; rumored Steelers' DL free agent target retires
Monday’s “First Call” has a scathing review of quarterback Russell Wilson. He reportedly agreed to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers Sunday night. The trade market is soft for Bears quarterback Justin Fields. A potential veteran addition along the Steelers defensive line is off the table. And we...
triblive.com
"he doesn’t throw the ball in the middle of the football field, he doesn’t anticipate throws."
"he doesn’t process what he sees well, doesn’t throw with anticipation and said any offense would have to be “limited”
He's not talking about Kenny. He's talking about Wilson...
I don’t think Wilson is very good but he’ll be making like $1.2 million. Mitch Trubisky made almost $8 million last year. It’s a low risk move IMO.Interesting take:
First Call: Former Bronco rips Russell Wilson, praises his fit in Pittsburgh; rumored Steelers' DL free agent target retires
Monday’s “First Call” has a scathing review of quarterback Russell Wilson. He reportedly agreed to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers Sunday night. The trade market is soft for Bears quarterback Justin Fields. A potential veteran addition along the Steelers defensive line is off the table. And we...
"he doesn’t throw the ball in the middle of the football field, he doesn’t anticipate throws."
"he doesn’t process what he sees well, doesn’t throw with anticipation and said any offense would have to be “limited”
He's not talking about Kenny. He's talking about Wilson...
Thanks, just like you protect Kenny again by calling the truth being said about him hyperbole.
Wilson is not a good QB anymore. Earlier in his career he was so good at extending plays that it more than made up for his deficiencies playing from within the pocket, but those days are over. His one remaining elite skill is that he throws an excellent deep ball. For the price tag it's a no brainer move but he's a below average player.Interesting take:
First Call: Former Bronco rips Russell Wilson, praises his fit in Pittsburgh; rumored Steelers' DL free agent target retires
Monday’s “First Call” has a scathing review of quarterback Russell Wilson. He reportedly agreed to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers Sunday night. The trade market is soft for Bears quarterback Justin Fields. A potential veteran addition along the Steelers defensive line is off the table. And we...
"he doesn’t throw the ball in the middle of the football field, he doesn’t anticipate throws."
"he doesn’t process what he sees well, doesn’t throw with anticipation and said any offense would have to be “limited”
He's not talking about Kenny. He's talking about Wilson...
Mason isn’t signed anywhere
Just like last year as a free agent
And there is a reason for it
Mason can be resigned cheap again - because nobody else wants hi
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Are you Kaboly?
He's still a Steeler till Wednesday so his agent couldn't even talk to anyone until today at noon. He can't speak to anyone until Wednesday at 4.
You can predict that, and you may end up being right, but you can't draw a conclusion when FA hasn't even started.
on the bright side looks like the Steelers signed a serviceable punter and good possibility of Dionte Johnson being traded 😊
This is a make or break year for Tomlin. The owner is giving the organization and mostly Tomlin everything possible to win a playoff game for the sake of steeler nation and more importantly for Rooneys legacy.
Tremendous defense with a new OC who will utilize the running game with a savvy pro bowl QB. Better special teams and another first round draft pick hopefully used on an offensive lineman. Hey Coach T, you are all teed up to deliver a big winning season and a playoff run. If you blow this then I can get rid of you. Sincerely Team Owner Art
And remember Art recently said we have urgency to win
Tremendous defense with a new OC who will utilize the running game with a savvy pro bowl QB. Better special teams and another first round draft pick hopefully used on an offensive lineman. Hey Coach T, you are all teed up to deliver a big winning season and a playoff run. If you blow this then I can get rid of you. Sincerely Team Owner Art
And remember Art recently said we have urgency to win
I'm fine with the Steelers signing Wilson, but I also recognize the Steelers management and coaching staff completely botched setting Pickett up for success.
You don't think it's a bit over the top for the guy to be trending every single day since the season ended? Truth is one thing but I've never seen a player on any Pittsburgh team get so much time an energy spent on telling us why he sucks every day. Truth is pointing out how over the top it's been.
Eh, not really. The Steelers are a lot further away than people realize.
Teams used to break the rules and do these deals prior to the official opening of free agency. The league recognized this and changed the rule to allow "legal" tampering, so to speak, until FA officially begins. Just means team start to cheat sooner but, you know how that is.
Nobody that hasn't been released yet can sign with a DIFFERENT NFL team till Wednesday. The tampering period started Monday where agents of players who's contracts end Wednesday can have general conersations with other teams.
Can we hear from all of those yinzers who bashed Big Ben for the last 4-5 years of his career and couldn't wait for the Stillers to move on from him?
What a sad state of affairs. They sign Trubisky as a stopgap. They over-draft Pickett to be the heir apparent. They bail on Trubisky after 2 games and throw Pickett into the fire way too early, way before he's ready. You then give up on him and bring in a guy who's best days are long in the rearview. All of this coinciding with one of their worst offensive personnel groups in forever, and with suspect offensive coaching and playcalling.
QB's NFL careers are made or broken by the team that drafts them, You go to the wrong team/situation, your career never really has a chance. You go to the right team/situation, you join the elite club. There are far more of the former types of teams than the latter. We may never know if Pickett had a shot at being a legit NFL QB because of the circumstances he walked into. Let's say he went to the Niners, and Purdy went to the Stillers. How would that have played out for the two of them?
Unless the Stillers change their situation radically, Pickett is probably on the road to career journeyman status ala Trubisky, Darnold, Bridgewater, etc.
What a sad state of affairs. They sign Trubisky as a stopgap. They over-draft Pickett to be the heir apparent. They bail on Trubisky after 2 games and throw Pickett into the fire way too early, way before he's ready. You then give up on him and bring in a guy who's best days are long in the rearview. All of this coinciding with one of their worst offensive personnel groups in forever, and with suspect offensive coaching and playcalling.
QB's NFL careers are made or broken by the team that drafts them, You go to the wrong team/situation, your career never really has a chance. You go to the right team/situation, you join the elite club. There are far more of the former types of teams than the latter. We may never know if Pickett had a shot at being a legit NFL QB because of the circumstances he walked into. Let's say he went to the Niners, and Purdy went to the Stillers. How would that have played out for the two of them?
Unless the Stillers change their situation radically, Pickett is probably on the road to career journeyman status ala Trubisky, Darnold, Bridgewater, etc.
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Everyone in the AFC is further away than they realize so long as the GOAT is in KC.
And I don't think anyone should give up on him at this point, but they have messed up the start of his career for sure. Ideally, for the sake of Pickett and the franchise, this would happen:
1. they improve their O line dramatically, which can;t happen overnight
2. The OC knows what he's doing--that remains a significant questions mark.
3. They draft impact players on O over the next couple years
4. Wilson starts and Pickett develops behind him for a minute while they get the right people in place
is any of that realistic? Probably not.
So, everyone else is talking but Rudolph? Yeah right. Dude doesn't have any interest.
I think the thing to remember is not about the pay structure for 2024 but for 2025. AFAIK he gets nothing in 2025 from Denver. All of the guaranteed money was pushed to 2024 when they cut him. So it was in his best interest to get a multi-year deal irrespective of what he made in 2024 and he couldn't.
No, worst case is Russ sucks, they go 9-7 again and they move on from him in 2025. Pickett sits the whole year and demands a trade in early 2025. They get a 6th for him and have no QBs on the roster. They draft 20th again, no QBs are available there and their FA QB options are Jameis, Jarrett Stidham, Brissett, and Case Keenum.
They don't know if Pickett is the guy since they never let him play for a real NFL OC. In any event, they trade him and down the line he plays significantly better for someone else. So they blew a draft pick and an opportunity cost and got no closer to their goal. They're basically on the same treadmill they were on in the final days of Big Ben 5 years prior.
Now, your mileage may vary depending on what you think of Pickett. However, a lot of the above "what ifs" are extremely plausible, especially Russ not winning a playoff game and Pickett playing better in a non-Canada system. But it's just not true that there is no downside here. There is a real opportunity cost because it's very hard to be a successful franchise without drafting your QB.
I think #1 is very doable. Strengthen the C and the whole line gets a trickle effect, and the early decision on Mason indicates that’s the plan.
It's pretty clear that this franchise is in no position to evaluate or develop a young QB. The skills are simply not there in house to do it.
For all the people saying "just draft someone in 2025," 1) who do you think we will get at pick 20 that's a significantly better prospect than Pickett was; and 2) given how they handled Pickett (i.e., QB3 all summer before randomly throwing him into games, no NFL OC ever, replacing him with a mediocre veteran on a 1 year deal as soon as they could), what gives you any confidence that this team will get the next one right?
I am sad for Pickett but I'm also sad for the Steelers. They absolutely blew this by making a ton of unforced errors that were so bad they were typically confined to mismanaged dumps like the Jets. And there's no reason to believe they'll do any better next time.
You have to draft a QB to win big over the long term. Have to. But the Steelers have shown zero ability to do that going back almost 10 years now. I am personally extremely bearish on this franchise's longterm outlook.
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