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If Lukaku were born in America, what sport would he play? My lord…

 
I always hoped for a Jozy to be a poor man's Lukaku. Similar style, similar body. If Jozy coulda been 75% of what Lukaku is, he'd be a legend with the USMNT.
 
The Mexican team was not good all tournament long. But regarding last night, that’s just a tough one for him. How can his group come with the same energy that they would have brought if we brought our best? I know it’s a coaches job to get them ready…but human nature is a funny thing. He will fall on the sword though.
I think if this had been a 1-0 loss to the American A Team, it could be more acceptable. A 2 game losing streak to the US isn't good. But the 2nd loss, being as close to a Mexican A Team as possible against a solid B team for US...the FMF can't take this lightly, can they?

However, they could surprise and stick with Tata seeing it might be tough to find a good coach and also getting that new coaches system entrenched by September for the 1st round of qualifiers.
 
If Lukaku were born in America, what sport would he play? My lord…

So you assume he'd be in the NFL or NBA or something like that? Personally I think it's a stretch to believe that if NFL players had played soccer all their lives they'd be in the Premier League. Or Lukaku would be in the NFL if he played football. I suppose anything's possible, but maybe if LeBron had played only soccer, he might of washed out after high school, or played at Pitt or USL, or not at all. this idea that everyone's athleticism would transfer to any sport is suspect to me. But SMF is convinced Lionel Messi would be a Hall of Fame 2B if he played baseball :) LOL! I'm not convinced. Also, there's no guarantee that poor black kids will be better players than white kids who's parents can afford the pay to play team.
 
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So you assume he'd be in the NFL or NBA or something like that? Personally I think it's a stretch to believe that if NFL players had played soccer all their lives they'd be in the Premier League. Or Lukaku would be in the NFL if he played football. I suppose anything's possible, but maybe if LeBron had played only soccer, he might of washed out after high school, or played at Pitt or USL, or not at all. this idea that everyone's athleticism would transfer to any sport is suspect to me. But SMF is convinced Lionel Messi would be a Hall of Fame 2B if he played baseball :) LOL! I'm not convinced. Also, there's no guarantee that poor black kids will be better players than white kids who's parents can afford the pay to play team.
It’s just the battle US Soccer faces. Our best athletes more often than not are still migrating to football. I just met a kid last week who is an elite soccer player who has spent his youth at a top club locally. He’s in 7th or 8th grade right now. He looks like a junior. The varsity boys soccer coach told me that if the kid were on the HS team right now he’d be it’s best player, even vs kids that our 4-5 years older. Incidentally, this HS is a soccer power and a football doormat. Guess what sport he will be playing in HS? Yep he’s playing football because he’s already earmarked to be the future QB.
And then he will probably transfer to Central Catholic. Lol.
 
It’s just the battle US Soccer faces. Our best athletes more often than not are still migrating to football. I just met a kid last week who is an elite soccer player who has spent his youth at a top club locally. He’s in 7th or 8th grade right now. He looks like a junior. The varsity boys soccer coach told me that if the kid were on the HS team right now he’d be it’s best player, even vs kids that our 4-5 years older. Incidentally, this HS is a soccer power and a football doormat. Guess what sport he will be playing in HS? Yep he’s playing football because he’s already earmarked to be the future QB.
And then he will probably transfer to Central Catholic. Lol.
I'm sure there are cases like that. However, it's possible that he might go pro as a QB and never make it pro if he stuck to soccer, or vice versa. Maybe he'd make it pro if he stuck to soccer and ends up flopping as a college QB instead. Or maybe he'd make it either or neither way.
 
So you assume he'd be in the NFL or NBA or something like that? Personally I think it's a stretch to believe that if NFL players had played soccer all their lives they'd be in the Premier League. Or Lukaku would be in the NFL if he played football. I suppose anything's possible, but maybe if LeBron had played only soccer, he might of washed out after high school, or played at Pitt or USL, or not at all. this idea that everyone's athleticism would transfer to any sport is suspect to me. But SMF is convinced Lionel Messi would be a Hall of Fame 2B if he played baseball :) LOL! I'm not convinced. Also, there's no guarantee that poor black kids will be better players than white kids who's parents can afford the pay to play team.
You had to mention him. Now he's gonna show up here like a spirit from a Ouija Board and wreak havoc on this thread.
 
You had to mention him. Now he's gonna show up here like a spirit from a Ouija Board and wreak havoc on this thread.
I mention that all the time when the conversation is, "...if our best athletes played soccer". to me the whole idea that Lionel Messi would surely be a hall of famer if he played baseball, is the craziest thing he ever said.
 
I mention that all the time when the conversation is, "...if our best athletes played soccer". to me the whole idea that Lionel Messi would surely be a hall of famer if he played baseball, is the craziest thing he ever said.
I've lost track of what he has said. He never disappoints and finds a way to hijack every conversation. No doubt he wears a tin foil hat, thinks the government instructed his dentist to place diodes in teeth and thinks the CIA placed microscopic listening devices in the covid vaccine that attaches itself to his organs.
 
I've lost track of what he has said. He never disappoints and finds a way to hijack every conversation. No doubt he wears a tin foil hat, thinks the government instructed his dentist to place diodes in teeth and thinks the CIA placed microscopic listening devices in the covid vaccine that attaches itself to his organs.
Actually he’s at the opposite end of lunacy on Covid. He was probably so disappointed that they packed 65k into that stadium that he refused to watch because it was a super spreader event.

although most of those fans were Mexican, and SMF is totally fine with Covid positive spreaders coming across our borders in large numbers.
 
Actually he’s at the opposite end of lunacy on Covid. He was probably so disappointed that they packed 65k into that stadium that he refused to watch because it was a super spreader event.

although most of those fans were Mexican, and SMF is totally fine with Covid positive spreaders coming across our borders in large numbers.
Ahhhh, so you're telling me he sat on his couch, watching this match alone, with a mask and face shield on. That is so realistic, it's scary.

His next brilliant tirade will be "SMF Prediction. SMF predicts that all fans attending the match will account for the 74.576% uptick in new covid cases in Nevada, Arizona and California." SMF loves to refer to SMF in the 3rd person.
 
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It’s just the battle US Soccer faces. Our best athletes more often than not are still migrating to football. I just met a kid last week who is an elite soccer player who has spent his youth at a top club locally. He’s in 7th or 8th grade right now. He looks like a junior. The varsity boys soccer coach told me that if the kid were on the HS team right now he’d be it’s best player, even vs kids that our 4-5 years older. Incidentally, this HS is a soccer power and a football doormat. Guess what sport he will be playing in HS? Yep he’s playing football because he’s already earmarked to be the future QB.
And then he will probably transfer to Central Catholic. Lol.
What is funny is this has really also affected baseball. Black kids, poor, inner city black kids, aren't playing baseball either. Many of the black kids who play baseball at a high level are "privileged" also....like K'Bryan Hayes who's dad was Charlie Hayes, ex MLB player, Kumar Rocker, who's dad was Tracy Rocker, the #1 prospect in next year's MLB draft is Elijah Green, son of ex Steelers TE Eric Green. Look at the Pirates 2nd rd pick, Lonnie White Jr, the kid who spurned PSU to sign with the Pirates. He played high school ball at Malvern Prep, which is fairly prestigious.
 
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I mention that all the time when the conversation is, "...if our best athletes played soccer". to me the whole idea that Lionel Messi would surely be a hall of famer if he played baseball, is the craziest thing he ever said.
Absolutely crazy. Completely different skill sets. There is athletic ability, then their are skills that are specific. They don't always go hand in hand. Look at Charles Barkley, a tremendous athlete who thrived in the NBA despite being 6'4". He golfs all the time....and he is worse than I am still, despite I am sure all of the high quality equipment and teaching that money could buy. I see alot of guys who can run fast and jump high, but they have little hand eye coordination, or spatial coordination.

I posted a video from the early 80's of one of those Superstars competition where celebrity athletes ran a 100 yard dash. Sugar Ray Leonard, Pele, a couple of other black athletes I forget and Wayne Gretzky. And Gretzky smoked them by like 5 steps in a 100 yard dash which is quite alot.
 
What is funny is this has really also affected baseball. Black kids, poor, inner city black kids, aren't playing baseball either. Many of the black kids who play baseball at a high level are "privileged" also....like K'Bryan Hayes who's dad was Charlie Hayes, ex MLB player, Kumar Rocker, who's dad was Tracy Rocker, the #1 prospect in next year's MLB draft is Elijah Green, son of ex Steelers TE Eric Green. Look at the Pirates 2nd rd pick, Lonnie White Jr, the kid who spurned PSU to sign with the Pirates. He played high school ball at Malvern Prep, which is fairly prestigious.
I think just about everything is pay to play these days. Heck, for the most part boxing is ‘privileged’ - at least locally.
 
And Zardes...that's why he gets the criticism he gets.


That game last night was him in a nutshell. They played a good team, and he completely disappeared. They probably played 20 balls into him last night a center forward, and I know he won one of them, and he might have won two, but I know that he didn't win three. And when you are playing against a team that wants to possess the ball the way that the Mexicans do that simply is not good enough.

And I get that that's a tough job. But there were more times last night when he stepped up to play the ball, and then the ball went completely over his head, like as if he had no idea where it was going. Like if they were playing outside and the wind was really blowing then you could see how that could keep happening. But they were playing indoors. There was no wind. He just can't judge the flight of the ball.

He ended up getting one shot on goal that was easily saved. But the good thing about it (from his perspective) was that other than that his best play on offense was the set piece when he stumble and fell and basically missed the ball, but it happened to deflect off his falling body right to Ariola for a really good chance.

When you play center forward and your best offensive contribution is a ball deflecting off you when you stumble and fall, that's just not good enough.
 
The Mexican team was not good all tournament long. But regarding last night, that’s just a tough one for him. How can his group come with the same energy that they would have brought if we brought our best? I know it’s a coaches job to get them ready…but human nature is a funny thing. He will fall on the sword though.


I don't think Martinez will fall on his sword, but it wouldn't surprise me if the FMF takes the sword off him and runs him through with it. I think that would be foolish, but in the past the FMF has shown that it has a little less patience than your average two year old, so it wouldn't surprise me.
 
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That game last night was him in a nutshell. They played a good team, and he completely disappeared. They probably played 20 balls into him last night a center forward, and I know he won one of them, and he might have won two, but I know that he didn't win three. And when you are playing against a team that wants to possess the ball the way that the Mexicans do that simply is not good enough.

And I get that that's a tough job. But there were more times last night when he stepped up to play the ball, and then the ball went completely over his head, like as if he had no idea where it was going. Like if they were playing outside and the wind was really blowing then you could see how that could keep happening. But they were playing indoors. There was no wind. He just can't judge the flight of the ball.

He ended up getting one shot on goal that was easily saved. But the good thing about it (from his perspective) was that other than that his best play on offense was the set piece when he stumble and fell and basically missed the ball, but it happened to deflect off his falling body right to Ariola for a really good chance.

When you play center forward and your best offensive contribution is a ball deflecting off you when you stumble and fall, that's just not good enough.
But he has cool hair.
 
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Actually he’s at the opposite end of lunacy on Covid. He was probably so disappointed that they packed 65k into that stadium that he refused to watch because it was a super spreader event.

although most of those fans were Mexican, and SMF is totally fine with Covid positive spreaders coming across our borders in large numbers.
Most Mexican fans are not coming across the border. They live in the USA and are citizens.
 
Most Mexican fans are not coming across the border. They live in the USA and are citizens.

From what I read here locally before the game they expected the Mexican crowd to be split about equally between locals, Californians, and those that would cross the border to attend.
 
Most Mexican fans are not coming across the border. They live in the USA and are citizens.
Ummm, I’m intimately well aware that they live in the US and are/are not US citizens. But thanks.
 
It’s too bad that some of the MLS clubs weren’t more supportive of players playing during Olympic qualification. Has anyone taken a look at that competition? The US certainly could have been a semi finalist at the Olympics. That group that Honduras was in was very winnable.
 
Listening to the football show on Sirius. Discussion now that Arsenal and Everton are now interested in Hoppe. Show hosts believe Hoppe has the presence to play at that level, but don’t think he has the product yet. I kinda agree.
 
Listening to the football show on Sirius. Discussion now that Arsenal and Everton are now interested in Hoppe. Show hosts believe Hoppe has the presence to play at that level, but don’t think he has the product yet. I kinda agree.
I don't think Arsenal would be a good fit. He'd get no serious playing time with Aubemayang and Lacazette in front of him.

Everton wouldn't be a good spot but have to worry about Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin who are as established as the 2some at Arsenal.

I think a mid table club, Southampton or WHU to lower level in Brighton.
 
Most Mexican fans are not coming across the border. They live in the USA and are citizens.
Exactly, it's like a Steelers away game, Steelers fans don't "travel well", they live there.
 
I don't think Arsenal would be a good fit. He'd get no serious playing time with Aubemayang and Lacazette in front of him.

Everton wouldn't be a good spot but have to worry about Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin who are as established as the 2some at Arsenal.

I think a mid table club, Southampton or WHU to lower level in Brighton.
A mid level Bundesliga club would be best. Somewhere he can play regular minutes.

The Richarlison issue at Everton is not resolved. He could be moved.
 
It’s too bad that some of the MLS clubs weren’t more supportive of players playing during Olympic qualification. Has anyone taken a look at that competition? The US certainly could have been a semi finalist at the Olympics. That group that Honduras was in was very winnable.


Egypt, New Zealand and Ivory Coast all made the quarterfinals. Tells you a little about the quality of the tournament.
 
SMF wanted to send Pulisic, McKinnie. adams and Dest.
Yep, which is why we should have sent them if we qualified. Might have won Gold and Americans would have cared and probably watched the game. They would have had no clue they beat U24 B teams
 
Lol. He did in 2016. Even skipped Copa America for it


He wanted to do it this year too. But his club told him no. As you were told they would. And you kind of just laughed off.

It's as if you don't recognize that something has been going on in the world recently that has made the soccer calendar this year completely different than what it was five years ago.
 
He wanted to do it this year too. But his club told him no. As you were told they would. And you kind of just laughed off.

It's as if you don't recognize that something has been going on in the world recently that has made the soccer calendar this year completely different than what it was five years ago.
PSG telling Neymar to rest before camp is completely different than Chelsea telling Pulisic to go play in the Gold Cup instead of the Olympics
 
Ahhhh, so you're telling me he sat on his couch, watching this match alone, with a mask and face shield on. That is so realistic, it's scary.

His next brilliant tirade will be "SMF Prediction. SMF predicts that all fans attending the match will account for the 74.576% uptick in new covid cases in Nevada, Arizona and California." SMF loves to refer to SMF in the 3rd person.
Nopd because soccer fans, who mostly lean left would mostly be vaccinated. Not too many MAGA guys rooting on the US in Vegas. They were at UFC
 
Absolutely crazy. Completely different skill sets. There is athletic ability, then their are skills that are specific. They don't always go hand in hand. Look at Charles Barkley, a tremendous athlete who thrived in the NBA despite being 6'4". He golfs all the time....and he is worse than I am still, despite I am sure all of the high quality equipment and teaching that money could buy. I see alot of guys who can run fast and jump high, but they have little hand eye coordination, or spatial coordination.

I posted a video from the early 80's of one of those Superstars competition where celebrity athletes ran a 100 yard dash. Sugar Ray Leonard, Pele, a couple of other black athletes I forget and Wayne Gretzky. And Gretzky smoked them by like 5 steps in a 100 yard dash which is quite alot.
Gretzky is one of the greatest athletes who ever lived so that would make sense
 
Nopd because soccer fans, who mostly lean left would mostly be vaccinated. Not too many MAGA guys rooting on the US in Vegas. They were at UFC
Are all these unvaccinated individuals in NYC MAGA?? While this is NY data, I would imagine this data is similar everywhere. Is the black community MAGA? How about the NYC community? I didn’t think it was a Trump bubble there.

why do the MAGA cultists disobey their leader and remain unvaccinated?

can you provide data that most soccer fans are leftists?



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