SMF does it for comic relief. This one thinks Pitt fans really care about what he thinks.
Which one is wackier? Flip a coin?
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Which one is wackier? Flip a coin?
I waver on that. Sometimes it seems that surely he does all this as a goof. Other times it seems like he's deadly serious about some of his ideas.
Mediocre programs don’t tend to bring many TV sets
There is no scenario in which ND joins the ACC as a full football member. None. That would make no sense for them. If this mega conference realignment trend is all about the money—and it is—the ACC doesn’t stand a chance.
Noted.
I think SMF really does have a good sense of humor, and goofs a lot on here.
Then there are those posts that are so out there that I think he’s somewhere pushing a Giant Eggle cart around with all of his belongs in it.
Just what in the he** do you think you’re doing, son??!!!!
We don’t need that INFORMATION here. We only need positive affirmation. Our little feelings can’t take this negative talk.
(Note: This goes for WVU fans on WVU boards as well)
I was one that never thought this stuff would happen this soon. Maybe a decade or 2 but not now. But after nd ad comments a few weeks ago, it was a matter of time. Depending on the gor, it might be a decade before the acc blows up. But it's coming. And so are other moments.
If the acc wants to prolong its life though, uneven revenue distribution and maybe convincing Oregon and Washington to join us could help. But those are short term bandaids.
If the acc wants to prolong its life though, uneven revenue distribution and maybe convincing Oregon and Washington to join us could help. But those are short term bandaids.
Yeah. Acc had a very small chance of adding nd before, now it has no chance.
TV sets were 10 years ago. Now it's brand name.
I wonder if the commissioner still thinks moving the conference offices to Charlotte will make any difference?
Honest question….who is worthy of uneven revenue distribution in ACC? I honestly wouldn’t even have the first idea who would qualify for greater shares. The ACC is the one conference (prior to OUT leaving XII) that doesn’t have a powerhouse institution.
Value isn’t derived from on field success. Even if that was the case, there isn’t a program that would qualify except maybe Clemson due to its nice 5-7 year run….but that’s debatable….
The ones with the most value.
Imo fsu, Clemson and unc would be top. Maybe Miami as well. They would be the schools you have to keep the happiest to keep the conference viable.
Count me in this camp as well. I find this whole thing to be a sad travesty. Burning down college football as the unique, tradition rich institution that it had been for about 120 years, for money.
I can’t imagine how anyone that considers himself a fan of the game could possibly be OK with this.
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Relative value shouldn’t be a determinant for appeasing members. Absolute value is all that matters. You’d be UNC’s bi**h?
Huh.
I could understand if you had a Texas, Ohio St or other program that truly moves the financial needle in terms of TV dollars.
It's either that or they are gone and you make even less. Outside of those 4, no one else has the leverage they do.
They may not be Texas or osu value, but they do bring value.
I don't think location matters as much as some people. It's about creating compelling matchups that drive TV viewership.
Locking down states is an old school thought process. You're probably going to ultimately see some type of subscription based service on top of the standard network games.
Think about the SEC. What exactly are they locking down nationwide, and has it hurt their revenue?
There are two schools on that list that make a little bit of sense, 2 that are highly debatable, and 2 that don't make any sense. Nobody cares about a middling Colorado playing a mediocre Nebraska for old times sake.
True, but Notre Dame is not an AAU school. They are an outstanding school with a good academic reputation, but they do not have a medical school and concentrate on undergraduate education and not research - thus they do not have the AAU designation.
But the Big10 has been after them for 70 years, and if ND said they wanted to be a member - the Big10 would great them with open arms and a huge smile on their faces. That is what having a huge fan base and a great brand can do for you.
We won't go independent. Pitt can't stand on its own and not become a UConn. And the Big East likely wouldn't take us back. There'd probably be some very good hoops programs in that hodge-podge, like Kansas, Syracuse, WVU, Wake, Baylor, Louisville, maybe NC State or Duke. It would be better than the Big East, competitively.
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The passive aggression is too obvious with this one. Clemson would kick the titties off any Big 12 program most, or all, of those years. It's not a maybe.
Wow dude are you in 8th grade. It is that hard to believe that people like decent discussion regardless of where the discussions occur.
ND is going to buy its way out of the ACC contracts and will likely join the Big Ten.
In the world of P2, schools want to be part of them, the Tier One level of football.
A Big Ten as a national conference stretching from New Jersey to California, one that has Southern Cal in it and will pay ND over $100 million a year, is much more palatable to ND than before.
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Or the time being a decade from now I don't see any conferences like we have now I think they (big 2) will take what they want and stop for a bit but eventually they can't keep the Vanderbilt's,Indiana's and Rutgers they will get rid of them and leave the NCAA to form a semi pro league
You still playing with your Jordan Addision vodo doll. Mr. Super fan.
They'll keep those schools around, the elite schools are always going to want some gimmie conference wins.
Huh?? Passive aggression?
I get it that Pitt fans are appropriately nervous but you don’t have to assume I’m attacking or trying to put one over with every question. It’s a legit question.
Clemson’s football merit is irrelevant to the value they bring to TV partners/carriers.
Texas has literally been average for nearly 15 years and is miles ahead of Clemson. THAT is a program that you allow to make greater sums of money. Ohio St is a program you allow to make greater sums of money. USC as well.
The ACC doesn’t have that program. No since in throwing out any names from that conference.
I agree on Texas being a much more valuable than Clemson. However, you didn't leave it at that. You said this:
"Value isn’t derived from on field success. Even if that was the case, there isn’t a program that would qualify except maybe Clemson due to its nice 5-7 year run….but that’s debatable…."
They are 89-10 over that span and have played in four national championships, winning two, and made the College Football Playoff six years in a row. So, if indeed that was a determining factor, Clemson is behind literally one team and one team only.
It’s debatable not because of that 5-7 year run.
It’s debatable because that 5-7 year run may be the exception.
Someone has to blackmail Norte Dame’s administration to get them into the ACC. That white wale cannot remain independent.
pittdan77
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For all of the gloom and doom and cathartic pronouncements, can someone explain why ESPN would let anyone in the ACC break their contract, at least in the next 5-7 years, to pay them more to play elsewhere or let Fox do it? It's apparent that Fox did this to try to counter ESPN with UT and OSU. I can't imagine ESPN allowing their inventory to be depleted or fiddled with. The ACC isn't going anywhere for at least a little while. There is plenty of time to figure it out.
If it's solely brand name then we should expect the bottom dwellers in the SEC and Big 10 to get kicked out soon.
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