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Vader Recruiting: 5 New Players Improve Pitt's Depth

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Nate Santos

6’7 Wing Forward

Accomplishments:

Nepsac A Champion and Founders league Champion



Stats: 17.1 ppg, 6 rpg, 1.3 apg, 38% from 3 as a “junior”, senior year was canceled



Comparable player stats from the powerhouse Nepsac league before college when they were seniors, all instant impact freshmen in college last year.

Matt Cross- Miami (Now Louisville)- 15.9ppg, 6.1rpg, 1.4 apg

Kadary Richmond Syracuse (Now Seton Hall) -12.5ppg, 6rpg, 3.8 assist per game

Terrance Clarke Kentucky- 16.8ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.6 assist per game

Femi Odukale- 17.5ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.5 apg

RJ Blakney-Dayton- 20.9, 6.5 rpg, 2.3 apg, teammate at Loomis



Derailed by multiple past injuries including a torn acl and missing 2 summers of AAU ball, Nate Santos was a former Top 60 4 Star recruit with a bevy of quality offers. And the fact is, he is still a really good player with really good upside and is easily a Top 100 caliber player when “healthy”. Time and time again, we have witnessed dangerous shooters enter the college level that were well under the radar, players like Cam Johnson and Parker Stewart for example. Santos is a dangerous shooter that can make shots at all 3 levels. He has the ability to put the ball on the floor and score and can put points on the board quickly from 3 point range. The expectation is, is that he can play and help contribute immediately at Pitt because of his offensive shooting and scoring ability if he remains healthy, which is the key. He is a Nepsac Champion because of his scoring and plays hard with a chip on his shoulder.



Chris Payton

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments:

Played for Powerhouse Juco Indian Hills and accumulated a 51-6 National Record over 2 years and was a Top 5 Nationally Ranked Team both years. 2x 1st Team All Region and one of the Top JC Players in the country with offers from Maryland, Texas A&M, and Mizzou among others.

Stats- 19.8 minutes per game, 12.5ppg, 10 rpg, 2.5 blk per game, 57% FG percentage



JC players and recruits can sometimes be hit or miss, but there is a lot to like here with Payton’s "potential" as a player for both next season and the future. As for raw talent, Payton is very athletic and will challenge Noah Collier immediately for being the most athletic player on the team from day 1. He plays well above the rim and like Justin Champagnie, was a force on the glass in junior college while collecting offensive rebounds with putbacks. He can score in the paint and on the baseline and just like Champ and can also hit the midrange.

If you are curious as to why the minutes per game number is low, Indian Hills regularly blew teams right out of the gym, they were extremely good which is why they were Top 5 Nationally Ranked 2 straight years. Payton finished 5th in the country in total rebounds and the 4 players above him all played at least 150+ more minute’s total on the season. He also finished 12th in the country in total blocks and was effective on defense with his athletic ability.

Payton has 2 significant concerns entering Pitt with his raw talent. He is turnover prone and it can be a problem, and he also gets himself into foul trouble. He also offers minimal 3 point shooting ability.



With that said, Payton is a high-volume finisher on offense in the interior and like Champ, he simply picks his spots well with a midrange game. He has a quality spin move with both hands to both sides that he uses to knife into the paint and score. If you are a fan of Keve Aluma, he has some Aluma in him with his use of both hands. Payton has significant upside and is significantly more polished on offense than Noah Collier was when Collier entered Pitt a year ago. He is a major challenger to start from day 1 at power forward and should be considered a high major prospect as Capel was recently quoted saying. He should have an instant impact.



Daniel Oladapo

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments

2nd Team All Horizon, 9th in the country with 3.8 offensive rebounds per game

Stats: 12.9 points per game, 8.8 rebounds, 1.7 apg and 1.1 spg, 57% FG %, 105.6 ORTG, 12-OR, 17-DR

Primarily a below the rim player. Not the fastest or most athletic, but plays with a ruggedness and a toughness in the paint. His stats are ok, but the hidden stat that can help him in the ACC, is that he made 54 midrange jumpers this year, which is almost twice as many as any Pitt player for this past season. We could use that type of midrange ability to help open up our offense next season at power forward or maybe a little center.



Its hard to draw many firm or even solid conclusions from a player that played on a such a bad team such as Oakland was this past year. But if we can get some rebounding, and an ORTG offensive rating somewhere between 95-105 which is doable with his shooting touch, , he can be a decent add that can help us in the interior. He has no where near the upside and raw talent as Payton above, but what he does have is 3 years of actual D1 college experience with a legit midrange shot. And what he does offer is better “team” depth in comparison to a player like Terrell Brown as he won’t be a “major” liability on the floor.





Mouhamadou Gueye

6’9 Center

Accomplishments:

America East Defensive Player of the Year, 3.1 blocks per game

Stats

9.7 points per game, 7 rebounds per game, 3.1 blocks per game, 2.1 assists per game



Gueye was brought to Pitt primarily for one reason. To help anchor the center position on defense as a backup, an area that Terrell Brown failed at last year with Hugley suspended. Gueye is a raw offensive player finishing out his college career. He isn’t going to give much besides some dunks and layups. He made 9 out of 47 midrange shots last year, a paltry 18%. He is however going to provide 2 key elements. He had a DR defensive rebound percentage of 22.8%, which is good and he brings it against good teams. And he is also a block machine on the back line which he also brings against good teams.

Stats against teams that matter

At St. John’s- 15 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks DR % 22

At Virginia- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 6 blocks DR % 15

At Providence- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 17

At Seton Hall- 14 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 20



Being from NY, Gueye brings a toughness element along with good springy athletic ability to help stabilize the interior on defense and is a significant upgrade to Brown on defense, rebounding, and athletically. While he isn’t going to score much, he is a sneaky good passer for a center who averaged over 2 assists per game.



Jamarius Burton

6’4 Combo Guard Transfer from Texas Tech



Stats- 19 minutes per game, 4.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 94 ORTG, averaged 10.3 ppg and 38% from 3 at Wichita State 2 years ago with an ORTG of 101.



Burton is a physical bully guard that is going to bring a lot to the team on both ends and has decent athletic ability in doing so. He missed 6 games last year because of a tendon injury in his foot which was a lingering problem for him last season. He provides some scoring and some defense, respectable efficiency numbers on offense and defense, and was a full rotational piece for a Top 20 Nationally ranked Texas Tech team last year which finished in the Top 20 Nationally in defensive efficiency. Burton has the ability to knock down shots from the midrange and a little bit from 3. He boasts a solid assist to turnover ratio for his career and will swing between the 1-2-3 positions next year. Burton shot 40% for Texas Tech and 44% for Wichita St. the last 2 years. While those numbers aren’t terrific, they are respectable enough to keep a defense honest, and further evidence is with his 46 made midrange jumpers he made his sophomore season which is a decent amount.



Whether or not Burton starts at the 2 or 3 or more likely comes off the bench, he is going to provide a lot of depth minutes for the 1-2-3 positions and be a backup to Femi; he should play at least 20 minutes per game. If he is good enough for that role for a Top 20 nationally ranked team at Texas Tech for Chris Beard, he is good enough for that role here. What Burton is, in two words, is solid and stable, and is a player that will help the team win games with his stability on the floor.



In Conclusion, none of these players project as a 10+ ppg scorer next year. But what they do project as, every single one of them is better than each depth piece player we had last year except Femi. Simply put, Terrell Brown, Gerald Drumgoole, or Onyebuchi Ezukudo would never play a second above these players. And Noah Collier or 17 year old William Jeffress from a year ago would barely play if these players had been available a year ago. These are solid additions that will really help stabilize and provide the team with actual respectable team depth for the first time in Capel’s career at Pitt. And the players returning such as Noah Collier or William Jeffress are going to need to make some significant improvements this offseason or their minutes are going to go down next year. Upgraded Competition in practices with better team overall depth with the new players will be a pleasant welcome addition to help improve next years team.
 
Nate Santos

6’7 Wing Forward

Accomplishments:

Nepsac A Champion and Founders league Champion



Stats: 17.1 ppg, 6 rpg, 1.3 apg, 38% from 3 as a “junior”, senior year was canceled



Comparable player stats from the powerhouse Nepsac league before college when they were seniors, all instant impact freshmen in college last year.

Matt Cross- Miami (Now Louisville)- 15.9ppg, 6.1rpg, 1.4 apg

Kadary Richmond Syracuse (Now Seton Hall) -12.5ppg, 6rpg, 3.8 assist per game

Terrance Clarke Kentucky- 16.8ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.6 assist per game

Femi Odukale- 17.5ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.5 apg

RJ Blakney-Dayton- 20.9, 6.5 rpg, 2.3 apg, teammate at Loomis



Derailed by multiple past injuries including a torn acl and missing 2 summers of AAU ball, Nate Santos was a former Top 60 4 Star recruit with a bevy of quality offers. And the fact is, he is still a really good player with really good upside and is easily a Top 100 caliber player when “healthy”. Time and time again, we have witnessed dangerous shooters enter the college level that were well under the radar, players like Cam Johnson and Parker Stewart for example. Santos is a dangerous shooter that can make shots at all 3 levels. He has the ability to put the ball on the floor and score and can put points on the board quickly from 3 point range. The expectation is, is that he can play and help contribute immediately at Pitt because of his offensive shooting and scoring ability if he remains healthy, which is the key. He is a Nepsac Champion because of his scoring and plays hard with a chip on his shoulder.



Chris Payton

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments:

Played for Powerhouse Juco Indian Hills and accumulated a 51-6 National Record over 2 years and was a Top 5 Nationally Ranked Team both years. 2x 1st Team All Region and one of the Top JC Players in the country with offers from Maryland, Texas A&M, and Mizzou among others.

Stats- 19.8 minutes per game, 12.5ppg, 10 rpg, 2.5 blk per game, 57% FG percentage



JC players and recruits can sometimes be hit or miss, but there is a lot to like here with Payton’s "potential" as a player for both next season and the future. As for raw talent, Payton is very athletic and will challenge Noah Collier immediately for being the most athletic player on the team from day 1. He plays well above the rim and like Justin Champagnie, was a force on the glass in junior college while collecting offensive rebounds with putbacks. He can score in the paint and on the baseline and just like Champ and can also hit the midrange.

If you are curious as to why the minutes per game number is low, Indian Hills regularly blew teams right out of the gym, they were extremely good which is why they were Top 5 Nationally Ranked 2 straight years. Payton finished 5th in the country in total rebounds and the 4 players above him all played at least 150+ more minute’s total on the season. He also finished 12th in the country in total blocks and was effective on defense with his athletic ability.

Payton has 2 significant concerns entering Pitt with his raw talent. He is turnover prone and it can be a problem, and he also gets himself into foul trouble. He also offers minimal 3 point shooting ability.



With that said, Payton is a high-volume finisher on offense in the interior and like Champ, he simply picks his spots well with a midrange game. He has a quality spin move with both hands to both sides that he uses to knife into the paint and score. If you are a fan of Keve Aluma, he has some Aluma in him with his use of both hands. Payton has significant upside and is significantly more polished on offense than Noah Collier was when Collier entered Pitt a year ago. He is a major challenger to start from day 1 at power forward and should be considered a high major prospect as Capel was recently quoted saying. He should have an instant impact.



Daniel Oladapo

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments

2nd Team All Horizon, 9th in the country with 3.8 offensive rebounds per game

Stats: 12.9 points per game, 8.8 rebounds, 1.7 apg and 1.1 spg, 57% FG %, 105.6 ORTG, 12-OR, 17-DR

Primarily a below the rim player. Not the fastest or most athletic, but plays with a ruggedness and a toughness in the paint. His stats are ok, but the hidden stat that can help him in the ACC, is that he made 54 midrange jumpers this year, which is almost twice as many as any Pitt player for this past season. We could use that type of midrange ability to help open up our offense next season at power forward or maybe a little center.



Its hard to draw many firm or even solid conclusions from a player that played on a such a bad team such as Oakland was this past year. But if we can get some rebounding, and an ORTG offensive rating somewhere between 95-105 which is doable with his shooting touch, , he can be a decent add that can help us in the interior. He has no where near the upside and raw talent as Payton above, but what he does have is 3 years of actual D1 college experience with a legit midrange shot. And what he does offer is better “team” depth in comparison to a player like Terrell Brown as he won’t be a “major” liability on the floor.





Mouhamadou Gueye

6’9 Center

Accomplishments:

America East Defensive Player of the Year, 3.1 blocks per game

Stats

9.7 points per game, 7 rebounds per game, 3.1 blocks per game, 2.1 assists per game



Gueye was brought to Pitt primarily for one reason. To help anchor the center position on defense as a backup, an area that Terrell Brown failed at last year with Hugley suspended. Gueye is a raw offensive player finishing out his college career. He isn’t going to give much besides some dunks and layups. He made 9 out of 47 midrange shots last year, a paltry 18%. He is however going to provide 2 key elements. He had a DR defensive rebound percentage of 22.8%, which is good and he brings it against good teams. And he is also a block machine on the back line which he also brings against good teams.

Stats against teams that matter

At St. John’s- 15 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks DR % 22

At Virginia- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 6 blocks DR % 15

At Providence- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 17

At Seton Hall- 14 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 20



Being from NY, Gueye brings a toughness element along with good springy athletic ability to help stabilize the interior on defense and is a significant upgrade to Brown on defense, rebounding, and athletically. While he isn’t going to score much, he is a sneaky good passer for a center who averaged over 2 assists per game.



Jamarius Burton

6’4 Combo Guard Transfer from Texas Tech



Stats- 19 minutes per game, 4.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 94 ORTG, averaged 10.3 ppg and 38% from 3 at Wichita State 2 years ago with an ORTG of 101.



Burton is a physical bully guard that is going to bring a lot to the team on both ends and has decent athletic ability in doing so. He missed 6 games last year because of a tendon injury in his foot which was a lingering problem for him last season. He provides some scoring and some defense, respectable efficiency numbers on offense and defense, and was a full rotational piece for a Top 20 Nationally ranked Texas Tech team last year which finished in the Top 20 Nationally in defensive efficiency. Burton has the ability to knock down shots from the midrange and a little bit from 3. He boasts a solid assist to turnover ratio for his career and will swing between the 1-2-3 positions next year. Burton shot 40% for Texas Tech and 44% for Wichita St. the last 2 years. While those numbers aren’t terrific, they are respectable enough to keep a defense honest, and further evidence is with his 46 made midrange jumpers he made his sophomore season which is a decent amount.



Whether or not Burton starts at the 2 or 3 or more likely comes off the bench, he is going to provide a lot of depth minutes for the 1-2-3 positions and be a backup to Femi; he should play at least 20 minutes per game. If he is good enough for that role for a Top 20 nationally ranked team at Texas Tech for Chris Beard, he is good enough for that role here. What Burton is, in two words, is solid and stable, and is a player that will help the team win games with his stability on the floor.



In Conclusion, none of these players project as a 10+ ppg scorer next year. But what they do project as, every single one of them is better than each depth piece player we had last year except Femi. Simply put, Terrell Brown, Gerald Drumgoole, or Onyebuchi Ezukudo would never play a second above these players. And Noah Collier or 17 year old William Jeffress from a year ago would barely play if these players had been available a year ago. These are solid additions that will really help stabilize and provide the team with actual respectable team depth for the first time in Capel’s career at Pitt. And the players returning such as Noah Collier or William Jeffress are going to need to make some significant improvements this offseason or their minutes are going to go down next year. Upgraded Competition in practices with better team overall depth with the new players will be a pleasant welcome addition to help improve next years team.
I thought Gueye could shoot it from three a bit?

Can he take some slower bigs off the dribble?
 
W
So he can give you more than some dunks and layup?
Well i wouldn't want him taking many 3s either.
But driving to the hoop against slower bigs is something he should be able to do.
But more than anything is what he brings defensively, he brings one thing this team doesnt have.
 
Nate Santos

6’7 Wing Forward

Accomplishments:

Nepsac A Champion and Founders league Champion



Stats: 17.1 ppg, 6 rpg, 1.3 apg, 38% from 3 as a “junior”, senior year was canceled



Comparable player stats from the powerhouse Nepsac league before college when they were seniors, all instant impact freshmen in college last year.

Matt Cross- Miami (Now Louisville)- 15.9ppg, 6.1rpg, 1.4 apg

Kadary Richmond Syracuse (Now Seton Hall) -12.5ppg, 6rpg, 3.8 assist per game

Terrance Clarke Kentucky- 16.8ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.6 assist per game

Femi Odukale- 17.5ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.5 apg

RJ Blakney-Dayton- 20.9, 6.5 rpg, 2.3 apg, teammate at Loomis



Derailed by multiple past injuries including a torn acl and missing 2 summers of AAU ball, Nate Santos was a former Top 60 4 Star recruit with a bevy of quality offers. And the fact is, he is still a really good player with really good upside and is easily a Top 100 caliber player when “healthy”. Time and time again, we have witnessed dangerous shooters enter the college level that were well under the radar, players like Cam Johnson and Parker Stewart for example. Santos is a dangerous shooter that can make shots at all 3 levels. He has the ability to put the ball on the floor and score and can put points on the board quickly from 3 point range. The expectation is, is that he can play and help contribute immediately at Pitt because of his offensive shooting and scoring ability if he remains healthy, which is the key. He is a Nepsac Champion because of his scoring and plays hard with a chip on his shoulder.



Chris Payton

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments:

Played for Powerhouse Juco Indian Hills and accumulated a 51-6 National Record over 2 years and was a Top 5 Nationally Ranked Team both years. 2x 1st Team All Region and one of the Top JC Players in the country with offers from Maryland, Texas A&M, and Mizzou among others.

Stats- 19.8 minutes per game, 12.5ppg, 10 rpg, 2.5 blk per game, 57% FG percentage



JC players and recruits can sometimes be hit or miss, but there is a lot to like here with Payton’s "potential" as a player for both next season and the future. As for raw talent, Payton is very athletic and will challenge Noah Collier immediately for being the most athletic player on the team from day 1. He plays well above the rim and like Justin Champagnie, was a force on the glass in junior college while collecting offensive rebounds with putbacks. He can score in the paint and on the baseline and just like Champ and can also hit the midrange.

If you are curious as to why the minutes per game number is low, Indian Hills regularly blew teams right out of the gym, they were extremely good which is why they were Top 5 Nationally Ranked 2 straight years. Payton finished 5th in the country in total rebounds and the 4 players above him all played at least 150+ more minute’s total on the season. He also finished 12th in the country in total blocks and was effective on defense with his athletic ability.

Payton has 2 significant concerns entering Pitt with his raw talent. He is turnover prone and it can be a problem, and he also gets himself into foul trouble. He also offers minimal 3 point shooting ability.



With that said, Payton is a high-volume finisher on offense in the interior and like Champ, he simply picks his spots well with a midrange game. He has a quality spin move with both hands to both sides that he uses to knife into the paint and score. If you are a fan of Keve Aluma, he has some Aluma in him with his use of both hands. Payton has significant upside and is significantly more polished on offense than Noah Collier was when Collier entered Pitt a year ago. He is a major challenger to start from day 1 at power forward and should be considered a high major prospect as Capel was recently quoted saying. He should have an instant impact.



Daniel Oladapo

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments

2nd Team All Horizon, 9th in the country with 3.8 offensive rebounds per game

Stats: 12.9 points per game, 8.8 rebounds, 1.7 apg and 1.1 spg, 57% FG %, 105.6 ORTG, 12-OR, 17-DR

Primarily a below the rim player. Not the fastest or most athletic, but plays with a ruggedness and a toughness in the paint. His stats are ok, but the hidden stat that can help him in the ACC, is that he made 54 midrange jumpers this year, which is almost twice as many as any Pitt player for this past season. We could use that type of midrange ability to help open up our offense next season at power forward or maybe a little center.



Its hard to draw many firm or even solid conclusions from a player that played on a such a bad team such as Oakland was this past year. But if we can get some rebounding, and an ORTG offensive rating somewhere between 95-105 which is doable with his shooting touch, , he can be a decent add that can help us in the interior. He has no where near the upside and raw talent as Payton above, but what he does have is 3 years of actual D1 college experience with a legit midrange shot. And what he does offer is better “team” depth in comparison to a player like Terrell Brown as he won’t be a “major” liability on the floor.





Mouhamadou Gueye

6’9 Center

Accomplishments:

America East Defensive Player of the Year, 3.1 blocks per game

Stats

9.7 points per game, 7 rebounds per game, 3.1 blocks per game, 2.1 assists per game



Gueye was brought to Pitt primarily for one reason. To help anchor the center position on defense as a backup, an area that Terrell Brown failed at last year with Hugley suspended. Gueye is a raw offensive player finishing out his college career. He isn’t going to give much besides some dunks and layups. He made 9 out of 47 midrange shots last year, a paltry 18%. He is however going to provide 2 key elements. He had a DR defensive rebound percentage of 22.8%, which is good and he brings it against good teams. And he is also a block machine on the back line which he also brings against good teams.

Stats against teams that matter

At St. John’s- 15 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks DR % 22

At Virginia- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 6 blocks DR % 15

At Providence- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 17

At Seton Hall- 14 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 20



Being from NY, Gueye brings a toughness element along with good springy athletic ability to help stabilize the interior on defense and is a significant upgrade to Brown on defense, rebounding, and athletically. While he isn’t going to score much, he is a sneaky good passer for a center who averaged over 2 assists per game.



Jamarius Burton

6’4 Combo Guard Transfer from Texas Tech



Stats- 19 minutes per game, 4.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 94 ORTG, averaged 10.3 ppg and 38% from 3 at Wichita State 2 years ago with an ORTG of 101.



Burton is a physical bully guard that is going to bring a lot to the team on both ends and has decent athletic ability in doing so. He missed 6 games last year because of a tendon injury in his foot which was a lingering problem for him last season. He provides some scoring and some defense, respectable efficiency numbers on offense and defense, and was a full rotational piece for a Top 20 Nationally ranked Texas Tech team last year which finished in the Top 20 Nationally in defensive efficiency. Burton has the ability to knock down shots from the midrange and a little bit from 3. He boasts a solid assist to turnover ratio for his career and will swing between the 1-2-3 positions next year. Burton shot 40% for Texas Tech and 44% for Wichita St. the last 2 years. While those numbers aren’t terrific, they are respectable enough to keep a defense honest, and further evidence is with his 46 made midrange jumpers he made his sophomore season which is a decent amount.



Whether or not Burton starts at the 2 or 3 or more likely comes off the bench, he is going to provide a lot of depth minutes for the 1-2-3 positions and be a backup to Femi; he should play at least 20 minutes per game. If he is good enough for that role for a Top 20 nationally ranked team at Texas Tech for Chris Beard, he is good enough for that role here. What Burton is, in two words, is solid and stable, and is a player that will help the team win games with his stability on the floor.



In Conclusion, none of these players project as a 10+ ppg scorer next year. But what they do project as, every single one of them is better than each depth piece player we had last year except Femi. Simply put, Terrell Brown, Gerald Drumgoole, or Onyebuchi Ezukudo would never play a second above these players. And Noah Collier or 17 year old William Jeffress from a year ago would barely play if these players had been available a year ago. These are solid additions that will really help stabilize and provide the team with actual respectable team depth for the first time in Capel’s career at Pitt. And the players returning such as Noah Collier or William Jeffress are going to need to make some significant improvements this offseason or their minutes are going to go down next year. Upgraded Competition in practices with better team overall depth with the new players will be a pleasant welcome addition to help improve next years team.

Sounds like Pitt should be running the Flex next season. 😁
 
I thought Gueye could shoot it from three a bit?

Can he take some slower bigs off the dribble?


Asking him to do too much is asking for trouble. Its not that he cant necessarily do it against limited slower players. But he is pushing a 24% turnover rate against mostly bad teams. Putting him against good teams is likely to cause that to spike higher. He is best in a limited role to maximize his efficiency on offense. Letting a 3 fly if he is wide open is ok at times. Letting him try to become a shooter as a backup center is not. His job is to fix the defense and rebounding as a backup center which was a major problem with Brown last year.
 
Vader, any thoughts on Judah Mintz and your top remaining 2022 targets?
 
Nate Santos

6’7 Wing Forward

Accomplishments:

Nepsac A Champion and Founders league Champion



Stats: 17.1 ppg, 6 rpg, 1.3 apg, 38% from 3 as a “junior”, senior year was canceled



Comparable player stats from the powerhouse Nepsac league before college when they were seniors, all instant impact freshmen in college last year.

Matt Cross- Miami (Now Louisville)- 15.9ppg, 6.1rpg, 1.4 apg

Kadary Richmond Syracuse (Now Seton Hall) -12.5ppg, 6rpg, 3.8 assist per game

Terrance Clarke Kentucky- 16.8ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.6 assist per game

Femi Odukale- 17.5ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.5 apg

RJ Blakney-Dayton- 20.9, 6.5 rpg, 2.3 apg, teammate at Loomis



Derailed by multiple past injuries including a torn acl and missing 2 summers of AAU ball, Nate Santos was a former Top 60 4 Star recruit with a bevy of quality offers. And the fact is, he is still a really good player with really good upside and is easily a Top 100 caliber player when “healthy”. Time and time again, we have witnessed dangerous shooters enter the college level that were well under the radar, players like Cam Johnson and Parker Stewart for example. Santos is a dangerous shooter that can make shots at all 3 levels. He has the ability to put the ball on the floor and score and can put points on the board quickly from 3 point range. The expectation is, is that he can play and help contribute immediately at Pitt because of his offensive shooting and scoring ability if he remains healthy, which is the key. He is a Nepsac Champion because of his scoring and plays hard with a chip on his shoulder.



Chris Payton

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments:

Played for Powerhouse Juco Indian Hills and accumulated a 51-6 National Record over 2 years and was a Top 5 Nationally Ranked Team both years. 2x 1st Team All Region and one of the Top JC Players in the country with offers from Maryland, Texas A&M, and Mizzou among others.

Stats- 19.8 minutes per game, 12.5ppg, 10 rpg, 2.5 blk per game, 57% FG percentage



JC players and recruits can sometimes be hit or miss, but there is a lot to like here with Payton’s "potential" as a player for both next season and the future. As for raw talent, Payton is very athletic and will challenge Noah Collier immediately for being the most athletic player on the team from day 1. He plays well above the rim and like Justin Champagnie, was a force on the glass in junior college while collecting offensive rebounds with putbacks. He can score in the paint and on the baseline and just like Champ and can also hit the midrange.

If you are curious as to why the minutes per game number is low, Indian Hills regularly blew teams right out of the gym, they were extremely good which is why they were Top 5 Nationally Ranked 2 straight years. Payton finished 5th in the country in total rebounds and the 4 players above him all played at least 150+ more minute’s total on the season. He also finished 12th in the country in total blocks and was effective on defense with his athletic ability.

Payton has 2 significant concerns entering Pitt with his raw talent. He is turnover prone and it can be a problem, and he also gets himself into foul trouble. He also offers minimal 3 point shooting ability.



With that said, Payton is a high-volume finisher on offense in the interior and like Champ, he simply picks his spots well with a midrange game. He has a quality spin move with both hands to both sides that he uses to knife into the paint and score. If you are a fan of Keve Aluma, he has some Aluma in him with his use of both hands. Payton has significant upside and is significantly more polished on offense than Noah Collier was when Collier entered Pitt a year ago. He is a major challenger to start from day 1 at power forward and should be considered a high major prospect as Capel was recently quoted saying. He should have an instant impact.



Daniel Oladapo

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments

2nd Team All Horizon, 9th in the country with 3.8 offensive rebounds per game

Stats: 12.9 points per game, 8.8 rebounds, 1.7 apg and 1.1 spg, 57% FG %, 105.6 ORTG, 12-OR, 17-DR

Primarily a below the rim player. Not the fastest or most athletic, but plays with a ruggedness and a toughness in the paint. His stats are ok, but the hidden stat that can help him in the ACC, is that he made 54 midrange jumpers this year, which is almost twice as many as any Pitt player for this past season. We could use that type of midrange ability to help open up our offense next season at power forward or maybe a little center.



Its hard to draw many firm or even solid conclusions from a player that played on a such a bad team such as Oakland was this past year. But if we can get some rebounding, and an ORTG offensive rating somewhere between 95-105 which is doable with his shooting touch, , he can be a decent add that can help us in the interior. He has no where near the upside and raw talent as Payton above, but what he does have is 3 years of actual D1 college experience with a legit midrange shot. And what he does offer is better “team” depth in comparison to a player like Terrell Brown as he won’t be a “major” liability on the floor.





Mouhamadou Gueye

6’9 Center

Accomplishments:

America East Defensive Player of the Year, 3.1 blocks per game

Stats

9.7 points per game, 7 rebounds per game, 3.1 blocks per game, 2.1 assists per game



Gueye was brought to Pitt primarily for one reason. To help anchor the center position on defense as a backup, an area that Terrell Brown failed at last year with Hugley suspended. Gueye is a raw offensive player finishing out his college career. He isn’t going to give much besides some dunks and layups. He made 9 out of 47 midrange shots last year, a paltry 18%. He is however going to provide 2 key elements. He had a DR defensive rebound percentage of 22.8%, which is good and he brings it against good teams. And he is also a block machine on the back line which he also brings against good teams.

Stats against teams that matter

At St. John’s- 15 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks DR % 22

At Virginia- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 6 blocks DR % 15

At Providence- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 17

At Seton Hall- 14 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 20



Being from NY, Gueye brings a toughness element along with good springy athletic ability to help stabilize the interior on defense and is a significant upgrade to Brown on defense, rebounding, and athletically. While he isn’t going to score much, he is a sneaky good passer for a center who averaged over 2 assists per game.



Jamarius Burton

6’4 Combo Guard Transfer from Texas Tech



Stats- 19 minutes per game, 4.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 94 ORTG, averaged 10.3 ppg and 38% from 3 at Wichita State 2 years ago with an ORTG of 101.



Burton is a physical bully guard that is going to bring a lot to the team on both ends and has decent athletic ability in doing so. He missed 6 games last year because of a tendon injury in his foot which was a lingering problem for him last season. He provides some scoring and some defense, respectable efficiency numbers on offense and defense, and was a full rotational piece for a Top 20 Nationally ranked Texas Tech team last year which finished in the Top 20 Nationally in defensive efficiency. Burton has the ability to knock down shots from the midrange and a little bit from 3. He boasts a solid assist to turnover ratio for his career and will swing between the 1-2-3 positions next year. Burton shot 40% for Texas Tech and 44% for Wichita St. the last 2 years. While those numbers aren’t terrific, they are respectable enough to keep a defense honest, and further evidence is with his 46 made midrange jumpers he made his sophomore season which is a decent amount.



Whether or not Burton starts at the 2 or 3 or more likely comes off the bench, he is going to provide a lot of depth minutes for the 1-2-3 positions and be a backup to Femi; he should play at least 20 minutes per game. If he is good enough for that role for a Top 20 nationally ranked team at Texas Tech for Chris Beard, he is good enough for that role here. What Burton is, in two words, is solid and stable, and is a player that will help the team win games with his stability on the floor.



In Conclusion, none of these players project as a 10+ ppg scorer next year. But what they do project as, every single one of them is better than each depth piece player we had last year except Femi. Simply put, Terrell Brown, Gerald Drumgoole, or Onyebuchi Ezukudo would never play a second above these players. And Noah Collier or 17 year old William Jeffress from a year ago would barely play if these players had been available a year ago. These are solid additions that will really help stabilize and provide the team with actual respectable team depth for the first time in Capel’s career at Pitt. And the players returning such as Noah Collier or William Jeffress are going to need to make some significant improvements this offseason or their minutes are going to go down next year. Upgraded Competition in practices with better team overall depth with the new players will be a pleasant welcome addition to help improve next years team.
Good stuff. Thx.
 
Nate Santos

6’7 Wing Forward

Accomplishments:

Nepsac A Champion and Founders league Champion



Stats: 17.1 ppg, 6 rpg, 1.3 apg, 38% from 3 as a “junior”, senior year was canceled



Comparable player stats from the powerhouse Nepsac league before college when they were seniors, all instant impact freshmen in college last year.

Matt Cross- Miami (Now Louisville)- 15.9ppg, 6.1rpg, 1.4 apg

Kadary Richmond Syracuse (Now Seton Hall) -12.5ppg, 6rpg, 3.8 assist per game

Terrance Clarke Kentucky- 16.8ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.6 assist per game

Femi Odukale- 17.5ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.5 apg

RJ Blakney-Dayton- 20.9, 6.5 rpg, 2.3 apg, teammate at Loomis



Derailed by multiple past injuries including a torn acl and missing 2 summers of AAU ball, Nate Santos was a former Top 60 4 Star recruit with a bevy of quality offers. And the fact is, he is still a really good player with really good upside and is easily a Top 100 caliber player when “healthy”. Time and time again, we have witnessed dangerous shooters enter the college level that were well under the radar, players like Cam Johnson and Parker Stewart for example. Santos is a dangerous shooter that can make shots at all 3 levels. He has the ability to put the ball on the floor and score and can put points on the board quickly from 3 point range. The expectation is, is that he can play and help contribute immediately at Pitt because of his offensive shooting and scoring ability if he remains healthy, which is the key. He is a Nepsac Champion because of his scoring and plays hard with a chip on his shoulder.



Chris Payton

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments:

Played for Powerhouse Juco Indian Hills and accumulated a 51-6 National Record over 2 years and was a Top 5 Nationally Ranked Team both years. 2x 1st Team All Region and one of the Top JC Players in the country with offers from Maryland, Texas A&M, and Mizzou among others.

Stats- 19.8 minutes per game, 12.5ppg, 10 rpg, 2.5 blk per game, 57% FG percentage



JC players and recruits can sometimes be hit or miss, but there is a lot to like here with Payton’s "potential" as a player for both next season and the future. As for raw talent, Payton is very athletic and will challenge Noah Collier immediately for being the most athletic player on the team from day 1. He plays well above the rim and like Justin Champagnie, was a force on the glass in junior college while collecting offensive rebounds with putbacks. He can score in the paint and on the baseline and just like Champ and can also hit the midrange.

If you are curious as to why the minutes per game number is low, Indian Hills regularly blew teams right out of the gym, they were extremely good which is why they were Top 5 Nationally Ranked 2 straight years. Payton finished 5th in the country in total rebounds and the 4 players above him all played at least 150+ more minute’s total on the season. He also finished 12th in the country in total blocks and was effective on defense with his athletic ability.

Payton has 2 significant concerns entering Pitt with his raw talent. He is turnover prone and it can be a problem, and he also gets himself into foul trouble. He also offers minimal 3 point shooting ability.



With that said, Payton is a high-volume finisher on offense in the interior and like Champ, he simply picks his spots well with a midrange game. He has a quality spin move with both hands to both sides that he uses to knife into the paint and score. If you are a fan of Keve Aluma, he has some Aluma in him with his use of both hands. Payton has significant upside and is significantly more polished on offense than Noah Collier was when Collier entered Pitt a year ago. He is a major challenger to start from day 1 at power forward and should be considered a high major prospect as Capel was recently quoted saying. He should have an instant impact.



Daniel Oladapo

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments

2nd Team All Horizon, 9th in the country with 3.8 offensive rebounds per game

Stats: 12.9 points per game, 8.8 rebounds, 1.7 apg and 1.1 spg, 57% FG %, 105.6 ORTG, 12-OR, 17-DR

Primarily a below the rim player. Not the fastest or most athletic, but plays with a ruggedness and a toughness in the paint. His stats are ok, but the hidden stat that can help him in the ACC, is that he made 54 midrange jumpers this year, which is almost twice as many as any Pitt player for this past season. We could use that type of midrange ability to help open up our offense next season at power forward or maybe a little center.



Its hard to draw many firm or even solid conclusions from a player that played on a such a bad team such as Oakland was this past year. But if we can get some rebounding, and an ORTG offensive rating somewhere between 95-105 which is doable with his shooting touch, , he can be a decent add that can help us in the interior. He has no where near the upside and raw talent as Payton above, but what he does have is 3 years of actual D1 college experience with a legit midrange shot. And what he does offer is better “team” depth in comparison to a player like Terrell Brown as he won’t be a “major” liability on the floor.





Mouhamadou Gueye

6’9 Center

Accomplishments:

America East Defensive Player of the Year, 3.1 blocks per game

Stats

9.7 points per game, 7 rebounds per game, 3.1 blocks per game, 2.1 assists per game



Gueye was brought to Pitt primarily for one reason. To help anchor the center position on defense as a backup, an area that Terrell Brown failed at last year with Hugley suspended. Gueye is a raw offensive player finishing out his college career. He isn’t going to give much besides some dunks and layups. He made 9 out of 47 midrange shots last year, a paltry 18%. He is however going to provide 2 key elements. He had a DR defensive rebound percentage of 22.8%, which is good and he brings it against good teams. And he is also a block machine on the back line which he also brings against good teams.

Stats against teams that matter

At St. John’s- 15 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks DR % 22

At Virginia- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 6 blocks DR % 15

At Providence- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 17

At Seton Hall- 14 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 20



Being from NY, Gueye brings a toughness element along with good springy athletic ability to help stabilize the interior on defense and is a significant upgrade to Brown on defense, rebounding, and athletically. While he isn’t going to score much, he is a sneaky good passer for a center who averaged over 2 assists per game.



Jamarius Burton

6’4 Combo Guard Transfer from Texas Tech



Stats- 19 minutes per game, 4.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 94 ORTG, averaged 10.3 ppg and 38% from 3 at Wichita State 2 years ago with an ORTG of 101.



Burton is a physical bully guard that is going to bring a lot to the team on both ends and has decent athletic ability in doing so. He missed 6 games last year because of a tendon injury in his foot which was a lingering problem for him last season. He provides some scoring and some defense, respectable efficiency numbers on offense and defense, and was a full rotational piece for a Top 20 Nationally ranked Texas Tech team last year which finished in the Top 20 Nationally in defensive efficiency. Burton has the ability to knock down shots from the midrange and a little bit from 3. He boasts a solid assist to turnover ratio for his career and will swing between the 1-2-3 positions next year. Burton shot 40% for Texas Tech and 44% for Wichita St. the last 2 years. While those numbers aren’t terrific, they are respectable enough to keep a defense honest, and further evidence is with his 46 made midrange jumpers he made his sophomore season which is a decent amount.



Whether or not Burton starts at the 2 or 3 or more likely comes off the bench, he is going to provide a lot of depth minutes for the 1-2-3 positions and be a backup to Femi; he should play at least 20 minutes per game. If he is good enough for that role for a Top 20 nationally ranked team at Texas Tech for Chris Beard, he is good enough for that role here. What Burton is, in two words, is solid and stable, and is a player that will help the team win games with his stability on the floor.



In Conclusion, none of these players project as a 10+ ppg scorer next year. But what they do project as, every single one of them is better than each depth piece player we had last year except Femi. Simply put, Terrell Brown, Gerald Drumgoole, or Onyebuchi Ezukudo would never play a second above these players. And Noah Collier or 17 year old William Jeffress from a year ago would barely play if these players had been available a year ago. These are solid additions that will really help stabilize and provide the team with actual respectable team depth for the first time in Capel’s career at Pitt. And the players returning such as Noah Collier or William Jeffress are going to need to make some significant improvements this offseason or their minutes are going to go down next year. Upgraded Competition in practices with better team overall depth with the new players will be a pleasant welcome addition to help improve next years team.
Thanks, Dokish.

Pitt could have added anyone and Doke/Vader/Steel Curtain would have been predicted Sweet 16s. Nobody reposts stuff he reads on other pay sites like this guy
 
Who cares where he gets his information, at least he provides something.
The info is so slanted, its useless. Its like getting news from CNN or Fox News and believing what you are seeing is unbiased journalism. I can't take anything he says seriously because he believes every recruit is the next LeBron. He should have received a lifetime ban for Justice Kithcart, who turned out to be literally just a role player on a D2 team.
 
The info is so slanted, its useless. Its like getting news from CNN or Fox News and believing what you are seeing is unbiased journalism. I can't take anything he says seriously because he believes every recruit is the next LeBron. He should have received a lifetime ban for Justice Kithcart, who turned out to be literally just a role player on a D2 team.
Here's some help for you. Put him on ignore and stop posting your nonsense on the threads he starts. 🤔
 
The info is so slanted, its useless. Its like getting news from CNN or Fox News and believing what you are seeing is unbiased journalism. I can't take anything he says seriously because he believes every recruit is the next LeBron. He should have received a lifetime ban for Justice Kithcart, who turned out to be literally just a role player on a D2 team.

Then put him on ignore lol
 
The info is so slanted, its useless. Its like getting news from CNN or Fox News and believing what you are seeing is unbiased journalism. I can't take anything he says seriously because he believes every recruit is the next LeBron. He should have received a lifetime ban for Justice Kithcart, who turned out to be literally just a role player on a D2 team.
If Peak handed out bans for bad predictions you’d have a lot more time on your hands.
 
The info is so slanted, its useless. Its like getting news from CNN or Fox News and believing what you are seeing is unbiased journalism. I can't take anything he says seriously because he believes every recruit is the next LeBron. He should have received a lifetime ban for Justice Kithcart, who turned out to be literally just a role player on a D2 team.
His information is extremely useful to most of us who do not follow recruiting info closely. He gives us information in a summary that this board does not provide. Please begin your own posts for us that gives a summary of kids that are being recruited by Pitt basketball that is not slanted and is accurate. Until you do that, just keep quiet!
 
Nate Santos

6’7 Wing Forward

Accomplishments:

Nepsac A Champion and Founders league Champion



Stats: 17.1 ppg, 6 rpg, 1.3 apg, 38% from 3 as a “junior”, senior year was canceled



Comparable player stats from the powerhouse Nepsac league before college when they were seniors, all instant impact freshmen in college last year.

Matt Cross- Miami (Now Louisville)- 15.9ppg, 6.1rpg, 1.4 apg

Kadary Richmond Syracuse (Now Seton Hall) -12.5ppg, 6rpg, 3.8 assist per game

Terrance Clarke Kentucky- 16.8ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.6 assist per game

Femi Odukale- 17.5ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.5 apg

RJ Blakney-Dayton- 20.9, 6.5 rpg, 2.3 apg, teammate at Loomis



Derailed by multiple past injuries including a torn acl and missing 2 summers of AAU ball, Nate Santos was a former Top 60 4 Star recruit with a bevy of quality offers. And the fact is, he is still a really good player with really good upside and is easily a Top 100 caliber player when “healthy”. Time and time again, we have witnessed dangerous shooters enter the college level that were well under the radar, players like Cam Johnson and Parker Stewart for example. Santos is a dangerous shooter that can make shots at all 3 levels. He has the ability to put the ball on the floor and score and can put points on the board quickly from 3 point range. The expectation is, is that he can play and help contribute immediately at Pitt because of his offensive shooting and scoring ability if he remains healthy, which is the key. He is a Nepsac Champion because of his scoring and plays hard with a chip on his shoulder.



Chris Payton

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments:

Played for Powerhouse Juco Indian Hills and accumulated a 51-6 National Record over 2 years and was a Top 5 Nationally Ranked Team both years. 2x 1st Team All Region and one of the Top JC Players in the country with offers from Maryland, Texas A&M, and Mizzou among others.

Stats- 19.8 minutes per game, 12.5ppg, 10 rpg, 2.5 blk per game, 57% FG percentage



JC players and recruits can sometimes be hit or miss, but there is a lot to like here with Payton’s "potential" as a player for both next season and the future. As for raw talent, Payton is very athletic and will challenge Noah Collier immediately for being the most athletic player on the team from day 1. He plays well above the rim and like Justin Champagnie, was a force on the glass in junior college while collecting offensive rebounds with putbacks. He can score in the paint and on the baseline and just like Champ and can also hit the midrange.

If you are curious as to why the minutes per game number is low, Indian Hills regularly blew teams right out of the gym, they were extremely good which is why they were Top 5 Nationally Ranked 2 straight years. Payton finished 5th in the country in total rebounds and the 4 players above him all played at least 150+ more minute’s total on the season. He also finished 12th in the country in total blocks and was effective on defense with his athletic ability.

Payton has 2 significant concerns entering Pitt with his raw talent. He is turnover prone and it can be a problem, and he also gets himself into foul trouble. He also offers minimal 3 point shooting ability.



With that said, Payton is a high-volume finisher on offense in the interior and like Champ, he simply picks his spots well with a midrange game. He has a quality spin move with both hands to both sides that he uses to knife into the paint and score. If you are a fan of Keve Aluma, he has some Aluma in him with his use of both hands. Payton has significant upside and is significantly more polished on offense than Noah Collier was when Collier entered Pitt a year ago. He is a major challenger to start from day 1 at power forward and should be considered a high major prospect as Capel was recently quoted saying. He should have an instant impact.



Daniel Oladapo

6’7 Forward

Accomplishments

2nd Team All Horizon, 9th in the country with 3.8 offensive rebounds per game

Stats: 12.9 points per game, 8.8 rebounds, 1.7 apg and 1.1 spg, 57% FG %, 105.6 ORTG, 12-OR, 17-DR

Primarily a below the rim player. Not the fastest or most athletic, but plays with a ruggedness and a toughness in the paint. His stats are ok, but the hidden stat that can help him in the ACC, is that he made 54 midrange jumpers this year, which is almost twice as many as any Pitt player for this past season. We could use that type of midrange ability to help open up our offense next season at power forward or maybe a little center.



Its hard to draw many firm or even solid conclusions from a player that played on a such a bad team such as Oakland was this past year. But if we can get some rebounding, and an ORTG offensive rating somewhere between 95-105 which is doable with his shooting touch, , he can be a decent add that can help us in the interior. He has no where near the upside and raw talent as Payton above, but what he does have is 3 years of actual D1 college experience with a legit midrange shot. And what he does offer is better “team” depth in comparison to a player like Terrell Brown as he won’t be a “major” liability on the floor.





Mouhamadou Gueye

6’9 Center

Accomplishments:

America East Defensive Player of the Year, 3.1 blocks per game

Stats

9.7 points per game, 7 rebounds per game, 3.1 blocks per game, 2.1 assists per game



Gueye was brought to Pitt primarily for one reason. To help anchor the center position on defense as a backup, an area that Terrell Brown failed at last year with Hugley suspended. Gueye is a raw offensive player finishing out his college career. He isn’t going to give much besides some dunks and layups. He made 9 out of 47 midrange shots last year, a paltry 18%. He is however going to provide 2 key elements. He had a DR defensive rebound percentage of 22.8%, which is good and he brings it against good teams. And he is also a block machine on the back line which he also brings against good teams.

Stats against teams that matter

At St. John’s- 15 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks DR % 22

At Virginia- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 6 blocks DR % 15

At Providence- 9 points, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 17

At Seton Hall- 14 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks DR % 20



Being from NY, Gueye brings a toughness element along with good springy athletic ability to help stabilize the interior on defense and is a significant upgrade to Brown on defense, rebounding, and athletically. While he isn’t going to score much, he is a sneaky good passer for a center who averaged over 2 assists per game.



Jamarius Burton

6’4 Combo Guard Transfer from Texas Tech



Stats- 19 minutes per game, 4.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 94 ORTG, averaged 10.3 ppg and 38% from 3 at Wichita State 2 years ago with an ORTG of 101.



Burton is a physical bully guard that is going to bring a lot to the team on both ends and has decent athletic ability in doing so. He missed 6 games last year because of a tendon injury in his foot which was a lingering problem for him last season. He provides some scoring and some defense, respectable efficiency numbers on offense and defense, and was a full rotational piece for a Top 20 Nationally ranked Texas Tech team last year which finished in the Top 20 Nationally in defensive efficiency. Burton has the ability to knock down shots from the midrange and a little bit from 3. He boasts a solid assist to turnover ratio for his career and will swing between the 1-2-3 positions next year. Burton shot 40% for Texas Tech and 44% for Wichita St. the last 2 years. While those numbers aren’t terrific, they are respectable enough to keep a defense honest, and further evidence is with his 46 made midrange jumpers he made his sophomore season which is a decent amount.



Whether or not Burton starts at the 2 or 3 or more likely comes off the bench, he is going to provide a lot of depth minutes for the 1-2-3 positions and be a backup to Femi; he should play at least 20 minutes per game. If he is good enough for that role for a Top 20 nationally ranked team at Texas Tech for Chris Beard, he is good enough for that role here. What Burton is, in two words, is solid and stable, and is a player that will help the team win games with his stability on the floor.



In Conclusion, none of these players project as a 10+ ppg scorer next year. But what they do project as, every single one of them is better than each depth piece player we had last year except Femi. Simply put, Terrell Brown, Gerald Drumgoole, or Onyebuchi Ezukudo would never play a second above these players. And Noah Collier or 17 year old William Jeffress from a year ago would barely play if these players had been available a year ago. These are solid additions that will really help stabilize and provide the team with actual respectable team depth for the first time in Capel’s career at Pitt. And the players returning such as Noah Collier or William Jeffress are going to need to make some significant improvements this offseason or their minutes are going to go down next year. Upgraded Competition in practices with better team overall depth with the new players will be a pleasant welcome addition to help improve next years team.

I'll ask this of @BballinsiderfromPitt as well - Can Hugley and Gueye handle a 5 out and pass well enough facilitate the offense from the perimeter to take advantage of the size mismatched of guards like Femi?
 
Here's some help for you. Put him on ignore and stop posting your nonsense on the threads he starts. 🤔
I read some of his posts or at least skim some of them. I just have to translate what he posts into reality since its soooo slanted. I just cant believe how some of you crave info from this guy as he's just reposting other premium info but editing it to seem as favorable to Pitt. It would be much more helpful if he just copied and pasted the info without editing it.

Maybe he should start a Pitt-anon group and claim we won the NC last year due to some analytical stat categories we did we will in. I know Gary would be on board with Pitt-anon

Pitt: Back to Back NC Champs?
 
The info is so slanted, its useless. Its like getting news from CNN or Fox News and believing what you are seeing is unbiased journalism. I can't take anything he says seriously because he believes every recruit is the next LeBron. He should have received a lifetime ban for Justice Kithcart, who turned out to be literally just a role player on a D2 team.
Kind of like your NBA finals predictions? If the players don’t end up panning out bust him for it.. It’s an evaluation, much like your useless evaluation of the NBA playoffs.
 
His info is even that slanted this time.
He provided criticisms of just about every player here.
Its just mostly basic stuff that you can read about players with some def ratings and otg ratings thrown in there.
It's not crazy either way this time.
 
His info is even that slanted this time.
He provided criticisms of just about every player here.
Its just mostly basic stuff that you can read about players with some def ratings and otg ratings thrown in there.
It's not crazy either way this time.
Maybe one exception. Stats against teams that matter is cherry picking which he’s been guilty of before. You can make an argument that if he was “that good” where the hell was he against inferior competition.
 
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His information is extremely useful to most of us who do not follow recruiting info closely. He gives us information in a summary that this board does not provide. Please begin your own posts for us that gives a summary of kids that are being recruited by Pitt basketball that is not slanted and is accurate. Until you do that, just keep quiet!
He would need to start watching Pitt and it's recruit's games- neither of which he does now.
 
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I'll ask this of @BballinsiderfromPitt as well - Can Hugley and Gueye handle a 5 out and pass well enough facilitate the offense from the perimeter to take advantage of the size mismatched of guards like Femi?
I’m not gonna pretend to know about the passing ability of either of those guys. I’ve long said that Pitt should utilize 5 out stuff to offset the inability of Pitt to get elite bigs like the Carolinas and dukes can get and run NBA stuff like Loyola Chicago does.

My question to you is this. Everyone is much higher on Femi than I am still, but he’s obviously going to be their #1 facilitator/offense creator… why would you ever take the ball out of his hands? Defensively against Pitt, I’d probably move my PG (if undersized) to play Horton and my 2 to guard Femi where the sizes align better to prevent this from happening anyways. Just rush out on Horton and give him no space then slap at ball every time he decks it and then let my 2 bother Femi with similar size, athleticism and length.
 
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Maybe one exception. Stats against teams that matter is cherry picking which he’s been guilty of before. You can make an argument that if he was “that good” where the hell was he against inferior competition.
Yeah i see your point.
I already knew those stats.
Although think its important to show stats against real teams tho, but also see your point.
 
I’m not gonna pretend to know about the passing ability of either of those guys. I’ve long said that Pitt should utilize 5 out stuff to offset the inability of Pitt to get elite bigs like the Carolinas and dukes can get and run NBA stuff like Loyola Chicago does.

My question to you is this. Everyone is much higher on Femi than I am still, but he’s obviously going to be their #1 facilitator/offense creator… why would you ever take the ball out of his hands? Defensively against Pitt, I’d probably move my PG (if undersized) to play Horton and my 2 to guard Femi where the sizes align better to prevent this from happening anyways. Just rush out on Horton and give him no space then slap at ball every time he decks it and then let my 2 bother Femi with similar size, athleticism and length.

For the same reasons as letting X stand around with the ball in his hands- it's predictable and doesn't work well once the defense sags off of them.

Your point about why to go to a 5 out is why I asked the question. John is supposed to be a great passer and Gueye was a point guard in high school. Getting the defensive bigs away from the hoop should help with the rebounding and paint scoring if John/Gueye can pass from the outside.

FTR, I expect Femi to be something like 12/6/6 next season but I don't think you can rely on his outside shooting and dribble drives to get to 12 ppg. I think he could be really difficult with space in the paint.
 
I’m not gonna pretend to know about the passing ability of either of those guys. I’ve long said that Pitt should utilize 5 out stuff to offset the inability of Pitt to get elite bigs like the Carolinas and dukes can get and run NBA stuff like Loyola Chicago does.

My question to you is this. Everyone is much higher on Femi than I am still, but he’s obviously going to be their #1 facilitator/offense creator… why would you ever take the ball out of his hands? Defensively against Pitt, I’d probably move my PG (if undersized) to play Horton and my 2 to guard Femi where the sizes align better to prevent this from happening anyways. Just rush out on Horton and give him no space then slap at ball every time he decks it and then let my 2 bother Femi with similar size, athleticism and length.
Is Gueye even going to the play the 5? Seems like a stretch 4. Not sure he can guard in the low block given his frame
 
For the same reasons as letting X stand around with the ball in his hands- it's predictable and doesn't work well once the defense sags off of them.

Your point about why to go to a 5 out is why I asked the question. John is supposed to be a great passer and Gueye was a point guard in high school. Getting the defensive bigs away from the hoop should help with the rebounding and paint scoring if John/Gueye can pass from the outside.

FTR, I expect Femi to be something like 12/6/6 next season but I don't think you can rely on his outside shooting and dribble drives to get to 12 ppg. I think he could be really difficult with space in the paint.
I don’t know I’m more of a dribble hand off, roll, short pass screen roll guy then having your PG post up. Could be a special thing they put in.

I just think most of Hugley’s passing ability was mostly out of the post and I can see everyone sagging off as he tries to hit Femi on the block and it being easy to guard.
 
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Yeah i see your point.
I already knew those stats.
Although think its important to show stats against real teams tho, but also see your point.
Anyone’s body of work in any sport or line of work tells more about them than a subset of 4 or 5 examples. There’s no taking away what he did in those games but there’s no way to dismiss all the others. Maybe he was extra motivated. Maybe he caught a heater. I don’t know. But his overall stats tell you a lot more about what he is. I’m certain he’ll get ample opportunity. Someone has to. Let’s hope we see more of those types of games. But I think we all agree the talent at the big positions still needs a fairly substantial upgrade.
 
I'm no Vader fan, but
his info this time seemed
to be fairly objective
despite SMF's comments.

IMO Olidapo will help us
inside due to his ruggedness
and physicality. We had NONE
of that the past few seasons.
Gueye is a backup C, and I
agree with Vader's assessment
of him. His film shows he has
some game on the open floor.
The others I see as backups,
especially if Jeffress improves
as I expect him to do. He
clearly is our most talented
player....is he ready yet?

What has improved is our
overall depth. We need our
returnees to greatly improve,
so these additions can be
viable backups.
 
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Anyone’s body of work in any sport or line of work tells more about them than a subset of 4 or 5 examples. There’s no taking away what he did in those games but there’s no way to dismiss all the others. Maybe he was extra motivated. Maybe he caught a heater. I don’t know. But his overall stats tell you a lot more about what he is. I’m certain he’ll get ample opportunity. Someone has to. Let’s hope we see more of those types of games. But I think we all agree the talent at the big positions still needs a fairly substantial upgrade.
Yeah i mean he gave his putrid stats at midrange and his terrible turnover rate.
Which is what's been said about him before.
He'll need coached to better offensively for efficiency and what he brings more than anything is defensively.
I've always been neutral on the Vader because I'm my own dude and can take or leave anything that he says it doesn't bother me one way or another.
Really more than anything i hate even talking about it because it's been beaten to death on this board already. So I'm more mad at myself for even mentioning it.
 
I don’t know I’m more of a dribble hand off, roll, short pass screen roll guy then having your PG post up. Could be a special thing they put in.

I just think most of Hugley’s passing ability was mostly out of the post and I can see everyone sagging off as he tries to hit Femi on the block and it being easy to guard.
Actually you and JoeyD
both make good points.
I'm sure you realize that
both ideas can be defensed.
I like the 5 Out concept, but
can't imagine Pitt successfully
executing it with our present
players. Being a good passer
out of the post, and doing it
on the outside are two different
animals.

Based on what Capel
has shown us so far, he's going
with a point guard, oriented
offense. That pg is going to
be Odukale, and he's going to
control the ball and the offense.
Hopefully he won't have X's
inconsistencies.

I did watch Gueye's film, and
his strength seems to be on
the open floor, but my sense is
he's here to backup Hugley at C.
 
I'm no Vader fan, but
his info this time seemed
to be fairly objective
despite SMF's comments.

IMO Olidapo will help us
inside due to his ruggedness
and physicality. We had NONE
of that the past few seasons.
Gueye is a backup C, and I
agree with Vader's assessment
of him. His film shows he has
some game on the open floor.
The others I see as backups,
especially if Jeffress improves
as I expect him to do. He
clearly is our most talented
player....is he ready yet?

What has improved is our
overall depth. We need our
returnees to greatly improve,
so these additions can be
viable backups.

Good post. Wouldn't say Jeffress is clearly the most talented though, I think Femi and Hugley make it a 3 way bout.
 
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