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Yes. You need that one big you can build around. Hugely may have developed into that. Looks like chances of getting such a big for next year are slim.
I think Capel should have been playing Jeffress around 5-8 minutes a game. It is hard to be confident when you are nothing but a practice player. You don't exactly feel like a valuable part of the team when you are getting splinters in your ass while watching it. His shooting in high school suggests with playing time and some confidence, he will shoot fine at this level.
Horton looks done. He may be joining XJ and Toney in heading for supposed greener pastures. I hope not. There is enough talent there if he can get his head on straight. He just needs to relax and buy in. Maybe things didn't quite go as he expected this year, but, he is a valuable player that can really help us next season if his attitude is right.
I am not sure what to make of Nike. He played pretty well despite a couple lucky shots. Perhaps real playing time as I suggested with Jeffress, would allow us to make a better judgement on what he can do for us in the year he has left.
Anyway, considering we need players for next year, I think Jeffress can and will show everyone alot more. Hopefully Nike and Ithiel stick as well. We still need Capel to pull the rabbit from his hat or "mask" as DT suggested. Rebuilds from the level we were starting from can take time. I still think Capel can keep us moving forward. Lets see who wants to play for Pitt in 2021???
Horton looks done. He may be joining XJ and Toney in heading for supposed greener pastures. I hope not. There is enough talent there if he can get his head on straight. He just needs to relax and buy in. Maybe things didn't quite go as he expected this year, but, he is a valuable player that can really help us next season if his attitude is right.
I am not sure what to make of Nike. He played pretty well despite a couple lucky shots. Perhaps real playing time as I suggested with Jeffress, would allow us to make a better judgement on what he can do for us in the year he has left.
Anyway, considering we need players for next year, I think Jeffress can and will show everyone alot more. Hopefully Nike and Ithiel stick as well. We still need Capel to pull the rabbit from his hat or "mask" as DT suggested. Rebuilds from the level we were starting from can take time. I still think Capel can keep us moving forward. Lets see who wants to play for Pitt in 2021???
He's 3-21 in his last 3 games (0-8 his last 2), basically fell off a cliff. Something ain't right.
And I know people like to rip on him, but it’s not like he’s done absolutely nothing at Pitt. He’s 1 blocked shot away from tying Sam Clancy for 3rd all-time in Pitt basketball history. That’s pretty good.
There was that play and one other where he closed exceptionally fast to contest a 3 - impressive. However, 2 games prior I watched him literally stand there and watch a guy dribble around him and score easily. I think that is the issue... who are you going to get? His talent level is not so unworldly that he can afford to be a spectator while on the court - ON ANY LEVEL.
We are battling with ND for 11, and they just lost to NCST. They have FSU for their last game, a likely loss, so we are in good shape for 11.
Jumping straight up, don’t need two healthy knees. Keeping someone in front, need two healthy knees.
I really think Champ needs work on his shooting before leaving for the pros. He scores the ball well from 12 feet in but he’s not going to get a lot of those chances in the Pros. I think he needs to show he can shoot consistently from behind the arc. Maybe I am being selfish but he really needs another year.
I like the potential WJ has shown and without seeing practice there was nothing to suggest that he really deserved more pt. I’m glad he’s getting it now .
Horton has been very disappointing considering the hype , hopefully this is a transition yr and he comes back as 75% the player JC said he was .
As far as Nike goes maybe he just didn’t feel like he fit in , especially with the apparent disharmony in the locker room . Now with the distractions cleared out maybe he can strut his stuff .
It does appear that the team chemistry is better now , that class with so much potential sure was dysfunctional .
I'm not trying to suggest that I think he does or doesn't need another year. But based on all the information I've been able to gather, the pros are already convinced enough that he'll be a draft pick. In other words, they don't need him to show that he can shoot consistently. They've already seen enough in his game that they will take him now and THEY will work with him to help him shoot consistently.
But selfishly, I too sure hope he decides to stick around for one more year.
My question is why would any scout ever tell anyone except the people who sign his check what he’s really thinking except in obvious cases like a Zion ?
I simply don't know, but just about any list you can look at has him at top 40 or better.
I'm not trying to be arrogant with my belief. I'm just trying to explain why I have the belief he will be going pro. Believe me -- I really hope for one reason or another, that I will end up being wrong!!
We will be 11 unless both Notre Dame wins and we lose.
BC and Miami play on Friday. If BC wins the bottom three is BC, Wake then Miami, which would mean we'd get Wake in the first round of the tournament. If Miami beats BC then it depends on the Georgia Tech - Wake game, also on Friday. If Wake wins then it's Wake, Miami and BC so we would get Miami. If Wake loses then it's Miami, and a tie between BC and Wake, which I believe Wake wins because they won the head to head, so we would get Wake.
Regarding some Brown comments, my frustration is Brown's energy is like a guy who just woke up from a nap and he wants another 30 minutes.
OK, I did not realize that the standing I was looking at did not include BC's loss tonight to Florida State. So the scenarios I outlined before are not correct. Let's try this again.
If Wake beats Georgia Tech then Wake will finish 13 and we will play the winner of the BC - Miami game. If Wake loses then the BC - Miami winner will finish 13 and the loser will be 15 so we would get number 14 Wake.
Assuming we finish 11.
Ask the Steelers who they’re focusing on in the upcoming draft and anyone they mention aren’t the guys they’re figuring to get . They even bring in guys they have no intentions to draft to throw others off . They when they miss out on who they really wanted they say that the guy they drafted was the guy we really wanted all the time !
I hope for his sake that’s he’s drafted with guaranteed money and has a long successful career in the nba , I just don’t see it with his current game( or potential )at his size and quickness . Maybe once his knee is fixed his quickness will improve , but if I’m paying him I want to see if his quickness improves before I write the check . His game at 6’8” or bigger yes at 6’5” boy he needs to shoot better , much better .
I agree 100% that if YOU asked someone with the Stillers what they were thinking about certain players in the upcoming draft there is very little chance that YOU would get straight information. But that is most certainly NOT true of everyone. The Stillers, and all NFL teams, and all baseball team, and all basketball teams absolutely do pass on information to writers and other people about who they are considering with their draft picks and what they think about certain players. How do you think these people come up with these mock drafts? I mean sure, some of them are just guys throwing crap against the wall and seeing what sticks. And sometimes the information is an attempt to throw everyone off. But there absolutely are writers who get information from the teams about who they like and who they don't like. All teams, every year.
I agree , but the only way that they’ve gotten that trust is by not spilling the beans .
Talking about mock drafts a lot of these guys are obvious picks to those whose jobs it is to follow these things . I have no doubt scouts talk about players especially ones their teams have no chance of drafting .
Did anyone have Cam as a lottery pick ?
But no scout is telling DT or bbinsider legitimate info that they will post on message boards .
Because, like some people on message boards, they want everyone to know that they were right. That they know basketball.
As an FYI,
There is a new article on Pittsburgh sports now about the Filipowski brothers, 2 players I talked about potentially reclassifying on this very board months ago.
They are also from the Bronx, an area I specifically said was absolutely loaded with talent in 2022 that we are targeting in this very thread and I said we are looking at New York hard.
Ill also add something the article missed. Pitt was the first school to offer both brothers as a package deal which is "somewhat" important to them. Kyle is very good and very underrated.
Then from what type of source if not from scouts ?
I also looked at several mock drafts and none have JC in them .
RWIW, an NBA scout I talked with told me (about 2 weeks ago) that he had seen Justin's brother play for St. John's but had not seen Justin play yet.
Then we have have looked at different lists. Every list I've seen has had him around 40 or better.
I'm certainly not trying to quarrel with you. I believe Justin will be declaring for the NBA after this season. I could be wrong and I truly hope I will be.
We all have to remember that even if Justin declares the door will still be open for him to return under the new rules that came on line a few years ago. Many players have declared, gone through the NBA evaluation process and returned to school. Not saying that will happen with Justin, but the rules have changed to allow players to get a sense for their draft value without ending their college eligibility.
Speaking of this, does anyone know if the NBA has announced its off-season draft evaluation calendar?
No quarrel here just googled mock drafts and he wasn’t on any of them .
I think he’s far exceeded everyones expectations and he has skills around the basket , I just don’t see a NBA player without a lot of improvement in his shot and defense . I could be wrong too !
We need more than 1 talent. Capel needs to hit it big the next two classes.
I also saw him in the at something like 28 on one list, and 38 on another. And like @Fsgolfdr mentioned, there are other lists where he doesn't appear.
Basketballscoutingworld ,nbadraftroom ,nbcsportas, usatoay, sbnation etc he’s not listed fwiw .
Several on the board think he is going, but I see it the way you do.
To me NBA guys are just special cats , right now IMO he’s just a really good college bb player . I’m not rooting against him , whatever he decides I hope it works out for him .
I agree, there are places that don't have him listed. Most of them (but not all for sure) are ones that have not been updated in a long time. The more recently a list has been updated the more likely it is that Champagnie is on it.
OK... fair enough. You got a guy playing on one leg playing for arguably the worst frontcourt in the ACC and probably the worst frontcourt in the history of Pitt basketball. What little respect I have of Capel for jettisoning the jackasses is quickly evaporating.
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