Dior update
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Ok so assuming he obides by all his parole requirements, actually attends and passes classes, completes his court required mental eval sessions, completes his required woman battering sessions- that Pitt’s gonna trot out a guy in ACC games while still on a 1 yr probation sentence for strangling a girl?
Maybe they can get an ankle monitor in Pitt colors.
Heather Lyke's family has agreed to take him under their household and nurture this thing through, to ensure he completes his probation requirements, etc.
still standing by this? It's been a week.
Still hearing mid January timeline for finding out. Hopefully it’s wrong and they news dump it Friday.
I did know. I said if they dont announce within a week, then that means he isnt playing this season and are just waiting for the official meeting to make it official as they follow the official process. If he was going to play, they would have had a quick meeting on Zoom and he would have played Saturday.
Oh good, trying to correct again. So he’ll almost certainly be cleared in January now.
In your opinion, do you think he would be a positive addition to the team or potentially negative?
The only counter to that would be we don't know what happened. Girls attack guys all the time and he may have been trying to restrain her. I have no idea really but the court of public opinion operates on this twisted moral compass. Dayon Hayes was accused of similar type actions and got a 1 game suspension and everyone felt comfortable moving on with their lives. If he had been accused of rape or something that would be different but these domestic situations are always slanted in the favor of the woman and I'm just saying there are some crazy chicks out here.
Why is the "chick" always the crazy one? I'm not saying maybe she had some issues too, and she was part of the problem. But he was also and he did assault her, according to the police report. As someone already said a while ago, innocent until proven guilty. That goes both ways. It's not reality in this country any longer, but it's nice to say it.
Forget what the police report said unless there is video or eye witnesses of the incident it will always be his word against hers. The point I made was a hypothetical one. Basically it amounts to this. Let a guy have scratches all over his neck and face and no one bats and eye. I have seen police heckle a guy who called to report a female attacking him. There is a one way stigma about domestic violence. That was the point of my post.
He plead guilty to two misdemeanors.
It’s over - no need to rehash
Pitt will either allow him to play or they won’t
Sheesh
It’s over - no need to rehash
Pitt will either allow him to play or they won’t
Sheesh
Has anyone ever played in a game at Pitt while currently serving a probation sentence? Would this be a first?
Levance Fields was on probation in 2007ish
The same reason the guy is always “guilty”. The police report tells us what “she said”.
So here's something random. I got my son some college basketball cards for Christmas. These were from the 2021-22 season since the new ones arent out yet. He got TWO Dior Johnson cards in the packs he opened. He would have been a HS senior, didnt realize HS players were included. On the back of one of them, it said he's the 15th ranked player by ESPN.
You sure? Maybe one was Pitt Dior and the other was the other Dior.
I just can't help myself, I guess....and I beg to differ.
The guy who broke my car window near Trees Hall and took stuff sitting on the back seat stole from me. Society didn't lose a thing. There was only one victim. It was a crime against Moi.
"all men ... are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men"
My loss did not extend victimhood to others in society.
If they stole my Christmas presents it did
It was just another green and red necktie. No great loss. I'll make up for it next year.
But had I insured it, I guess the policy issuer would also have been victimized....🤔
It's our current society's obsession with assigning the tag "victim" to so many in society that aren't, in reality, victims. Like you said BP, if someone steals from me or someone runs into my car, it's me who's the victim, not society. It's the de-emphasis on the individual, both as the person committing the crime and as the victim. It's also the mindset of shirking responsibility for one's actions and assigning it to society. That's bulls%$t. It's not society's fault and society has nothing to do with it. It's the "it takes a village" nonsense.
Maybe it’s a sign he’ll stick around for a second year.
Someone stole from you, but that person also broke the law, and therefore committed a crime against society. It was society's law that was broken, and it was society that would attempt to arrest, try, and punish him or her. The prosecution is on behalf of the "people," not you as the person whose property was stolen.
But is the crime against society, or is the government simply my representative when dealing with criminal offenses? Assuming that we institute government to protect our rights, and that we as individuals pursuantly elect representatives to enact laws on our behalf, are not our elected judges and prosecutors, along with the law inforcement personnel we hire, simply our representatives also? They all exist to serve each of us as individuals no? Isn't "society" nothing more that a plurality of individuals in this context?
There was a time when the language was "the crown versus the defendant", however we are no longer subjects. Does the contemporary language of "the people versus the defendant" then presume that an all powerful king has been replaced by an all powerful democratic State? If so, then does it not follow that the State then also defines and dictates rights as did the king? Alas, that is not a principle of government upon which society (the collective individuals) stipulated to at this country's founding.
Yet, we also must admit that our legal system transitioned from that of a crown to a republic, based on individual rights rather that a king's divine right. Based on that, I would argue that the term "the people" is leftover jargon from an antiquated legal system and should be discarded just as was the term "subject". It's an interesting debate and one which is likely far from Dior's mind at this time. 🙆
Hope you are enjoying the holidays, Franb.
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I’ll make it simpler
He had his day in court .
He pled guilty to lesser charges and is free .
It’s over
His attorney, Del Greco. He is awaiting word from the Pitt Board for an exemption for Johnson to be able to be on campus. As of right now, he can't set foot on the campus for anything. This applies to anyone who has been accused or convicted of a felony, regardless of whether the charges were reduced or dropped. Look it up.
Additionally, IF he ever gets back on campus and is re-instated to the team...a BIG IF, his attorney will have to apply for an exemption for out of state travel for obvious reasons since he is on probation.
I looked it up
It’s not about being “on campus “ it’s about being enrolled in classes and partaking in athletics
It’s not a restraining order for remaining out of Oakland , silly old dude
Pitt Releases Statement on Dior Johnson’s Status
Pitt freshman Dior Johnson will serve a year of probation after he pled guilty to two second-degree misdemeanor charges Friday morning, stemming from a September domestic abuse incident. Pitt suspended Johnson indefinitely following his October arrest, as he faced six charges — including a...
pittsburghsportsnow.com
He's not permitted on campus until the Board reviews his status. He supposedly is going to Western Psych, which is in Oakland. Two separate issues. Your sources are either wrong or you can't read. Take a remedial reading class or something. Then learn some respect and maybe sprout a brain. Please quit bothering people with your drivel and nonsense.
I'm done with you and with this nonsense. I don't care what happens as long as this crap is out of the news and he gets the help he so desperately needs. Whether he's at Pitt or playing for Pitt is secondary.
A reasonable guess might be that if Dior is to be allowed back in school and back on the team this basketball season that it would not happen (if it does) before 2nd semester enrollment ends and classes resume. That date is January 9th per Pitt's 2022-23 Academic Calendar.
If he's to attend classes, by what date does he need to complete his enrollment? Will that be permitted by the Board and the university if he's not even allowed on campus? I think what DelGreco said was accurate. They have to wait until the Board makes a final decision on his status. And we don't know when that will happen. I know DelGreco will push to get a decision ASAP.
If he is allowed back it will usher in a new era. One that places winning above many things that heretofore were held at a higher level. This will open the door for any coach to succeed Capel when and if the time comes to replace him.
Gotta disagree with you somewhat on the transition of courts from divine right to individual right.
Divine right died in England on January 30, 1649 when they lopped off Charles I’s head. There were plenty of individual rights outlined in the English Bill of Rights a good 100 years before the Constitution.
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