Just waived by the Redskins. Low Risk, Possibly High Reward for the Steelers to pick up. If he acts out, then just cut him.
Dwayne Haskins
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Wow, I expected Washington to move on from him but not this quick. I’d be hesitant to sign him due to his off-the-field issues. Also, at this point I’m not sure he provides anything that Rudolph/Dobbs doesn’t?
At least someone like, say, Darnold has shown flashes of being a franchise QB and an argument can be made that his development is being disrupted by the Jets, not his own undoing. But hey, if they think the see something in him that shows a reclamation project can be had, go for it.
At least someone like, say, Darnold has shown flashes of being a franchise QB and an argument can be made that his development is being disrupted by the Jets, not his own undoing. But hey, if they think the see something in him that shows a reclamation project can be had, go for it.
He stinks and he’s terribly immature. Someone might take a flyer but I don’t see why. He’s still quite young so I certainly could be wrong but I’d pass.
Tomlin may be a good coach but has shown he doesn't consistently have control of his teams. He became a better coach when Brown and Bell departed. Now JU-JU has to tik-tok everything. And now you want to bring aboard a player who has no respect for his team/teammates, is a bad decision-maker, and completes too many passes to the other team?????
an ohio state qb didnt do well in nfl, what are the odds of that. Such legends as pryor, cardale jones, barrett, jones, miller all were so good at the next level..
im sure justin fields will be the next in a long line of great ones..
im sure justin fields will be the next in a long line of great ones..
I wouldn't touch the kid. Some good rookies are popping up. Are we all at the point that the Rudolph experiment is done and he has no future here? I guess I kinda feel that way but want to let him stick around as he may end up being a decent back up here.
rudolph is signed thru '21 so cant imagine we'd get rid of him. We need a backup. Id say trade him but realistically, who is going to give you anythign for him. 1.4 million cap hit next year, not the end of the world for a backup and as a backup, we could do worse..
question is, if and when ben retires after '21, do they go with him or start from scratch.. i've soured on him big time but i've been wrong before (yeah i know, hard to believe)..
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I want Rudolph to be given the chance of a full offseason of first team reps and prep. I think he was beginning to put it together up until his injury against Baltimore.
I think you’re right. That will be an unpopular opinion. I’d rather get hit by a helmet swung by Garrett than watch a full season of Rudolph.
I also think that if the other teams saw anything with him there would be some buzz. But you never hear a word about him. I think he’s a decent career back up.
We picked up Mike Vick and our organization likes Ohio State guys. I would not be surprised to see us take a chance on him. Dobbs would be the odd man out. Low/No Risk - Possible Nice Reward. You just cut him if there are any issues.
not the first dude taken down for an insatiable desire to see titties, won't be the last...
a decent career backup is probably his ceiling and honestly, that's not bad. many times we've relied on a decent career backup type player. Charlie Batch won us some games, LEftwitch as well. a good career backup is a good thing to have..
If “all” his career amounts to is being a good backup (like that’s something to be ashamed of), I hope we keep him after his contract expires next season. Maybe he’s not good enough to be a full-time starter, but I also think he’s good enough that we can rely on him to win us a game if need be.
And hey, Charlie Batch came along before Big Ben did. Maybe Rudolph (or Dobbs) has a home here...
Yeah the Steelers will not be picking this clown show up. First off, he’s a horrible NFL QB. You think Big Ben can’t move, wait until you see this guy!
He has two former teammates from OSU who bust their butt to win in Terry McClauren and Chase Young. He has the best mentor in Alex Smith to help him prepare and ignores it. His father started an entertainment business based on his one year at Ohio State. He thought it was a good idea to go to a strip climb after a loss maskless and not even smart enough to say no phones. Then yesterday just ignored his media responsibilities and went home.
The Steelers have a better chance of signing Max Browne before they sign this clown.Let some organization like Jacksonville deal with this guy.
Bingo. He looked pretty good until he took one in the chops.
Seattle:
Rudolph 12/19 112 yds. 2 TDS. 1 INT. Longest completion: 45 yds QB Rating 92.4
SF:
Rudolph 14/27 174 yds. 2 TDS. 1 INT. Longest completion: 76 yds QB Rating 81.4
CIN:
Rudolph 24/28 229 yds. 2 TDS. 0 INT. Longest completion: 43 yds QB Rating 124.6
BALT:
Rudolph 13/20 131 yds. 2 TDS. 0 INT. Longest completion: 35 yds QB Rating 100.2
He got progressively better each week until it was lights out... He then became tentative, hesitant, and unsure... If he can snap out of it, he’ll be better than any of the “has beens” and “never weres” that people want to trade for...
being a career backup is a nice (and safe) gig.. yeah, you dont get that 8 digit yearly salary but you get a 7 digit one and usually have a working brain after you retire...
No disagreement here. There are a lot of worse backups than Rudolph. That alone may attract interest at the end of his contract. But if anyone tries him as “the guy” I think the top end is 9-7 if the rest of the team is good.
the thing about not having a franchise type qb is that you have 40million dollars of cap space to work with and build a surrounding cast... If rudolph is our starter after ben, that gives us money to find an actual NFL Caliber Running back..
I agree. See, I think there’s a difference between him starting for a season and him being “the guy.” If Big Ben retires in the offseason and the rest of the roster gets gutted as expected, I’d want them to give him a chance. Maybe you have something in him. If not, you likely have a pretty good pick to get “the guy.”
Do you really see Rudolph winning playoff games and taking them deep? And yes I know the Steelers haven’t been lighting up the playoffs lately either. But Rudolph isn’t the answer. As the one thread discussed there were a cpl non stud super bowl QBs. But it’s rare.
A Running back isn’t (or shouldn’t) be that hard to find. Their Oline needs to be retooled.
Ok then yea. If you meant he could be a bridge/gap year type if there’s no one else then it might not be deadly. Maybe I misunderstood.
no, that's why i think he could be a decent backup qb. if a qb can take a team deep into playoffs, he's not labelled as a decent career backup QB..
Rudolph is a stiff who can only throw over 20 yards against Pitt. Check down Charlie is what he's always been. Let's find a young QB with some pedigree.
Yeah, I see him more as a bridge year guy, and I probably should’ve made that clearer. I think he does have some potential, which is why I’d want them to look in-house instead of signing/trading for someone. At that point, what do you have to lose? If he shows something, hey, there you go.
I also don’t think you’d have to worry about them not drafting a QB if Rudolph looks good; they drafted Big Ben when Tommy Gun was still here, after all.
You bring up a good point. I think that’s why the blueprint for building a Super Bowl team nowadays seems to be building the team first and then drafting a QB. It’s easier to sign/retain guys with a QB on a rookie deal and not taking up that type of money.
People are thinking the window shuts after Big Ben retires but, if they make the right draft choice with the talent already on this team, it may just be beginning to open...
Just for the record, Charlie Batch started like 45+ games for Lions before he came to Pittsburgh and served as a backup for many years. Not exactly a "career back up". But that's what you want....he got 50 games of NFL starting experience on someone else's watch, then you sign him as a back up and reap the benefit of all that experience. Rudolph has started like what 6-7 games? Compare that to Batch's 45+. Imagine if Rudolph played 40 games for like the Cardinals or Rams and then came to be our #2....that experience sure makes a difference.
I doubt Haskins will ever play in the NFL again. Not just because he is clueless. He is a terrible QB.
The Steelers really have NO NFL caliber back up QB on their roster. And folks the clock is ticking very fast on Big Ben.
I have no interest in Haskins or Rudolph as a starter. If we are going with a statue QB, give me a guy like Stafford who at least has a rocket of an arm and has played good football in the NFL. If I'm taking a chance on a very flawed QB I'd rather have one who can move. There is a reason all the good young QBs in the NFL are mobile- that's where the league is going. You don't need to be Josh Allen or Kyler Murray but if you can't scramble for 20 yards every now and then when the defense blitzes and loses contain you are really limiting the offense, unless you are Tom Brady.
To be fair, the NFL didn't view most of those guys as NFL QBs and they weren't drafted as starters. Hell, Braxton Miller wasn't even drafted as a QB at all.
The flip side of your argument is that Ohio State got a lot of marginal talent at QB into the NFL.
when asked about the odds of an Ohio State QB doing well in the NFL, Art Schlichter once said, "I wouldn't bet on it"...
That’s so true, Fields just realized Haskins co$t him some $ in the draft.
im sure some team is dumb enough to think fields will be the exception..
Fun fact: Ohio State has had 20 starting NFL QBs since 1980. Only one of them has had a winning record: Steelers’ Mike Tomczak. Their only two first round picks, Haskins and the aforementioned Schlichter, are some of the biggest all-time busts.
Vick was a matured veteran at that point. And he had skills.
Mike Vick was far past his prime and had diminished skills when he came here.
Haskins is 23 years old and has some talent. He isn’t the first and won’t be the last 23 year old to screw up. It isn’t as though he was committing a felony.
I would like to know one thing that Haskins does that makes you say that he’s talented. The redskins wouldn’t be cutting him if he was any good.
Strengths:
Powerful arm
Can throw a hard fastball into tight windows
Good size
Can push the ball downfield
Has stretches of good accuracy
Stands tall in the pocket
Lots of upside
Louis Riddick thinks Dwayne Haskins could have an 'absolutely fantastic, monstrous year' in 2020
Every quarterback in the NFL is going to have skeptics and Dwayne Haskins is no different, but many out there are at least beginning to allow themselves to feel moderate optimism for the Washington passer in 2020. There's nothing "moderate" about the stance that ESPN analyst Louis Riddick is...
Note - It’s almost as though you think Dan Snyder has done a good job as the owner.
Where have I said anything about Dan Snyder doing a good job? After 13 starts, I see a QB with a big arm, that can’t move and makes poor decisions on and off the field. When he got benched the first time this year, I thought it was too soon. After the laundry list of screwups and lack of preparation for game days it’s clear he doesn’t have the personal drive to get better.Strengths:
Powerful arm
Can throw a hard fastball into tight windows
Good size
Can push the ball downfield
Has stretches of good accuracy
Stands tall in the pocket
Lots of upside
Louis Riddick thinks Dwayne Haskins could have an 'absolutely fantastic, monstrous year' in 2020
Every quarterback in the NFL is going to have skeptics and Dwayne Haskins is no different, but many out there are at least beginning to allow themselves to feel moderate optimism for the Washington passer in 2020. There's nothing "moderate" about the stance that ESPN analyst Louis Riddick is...www.nbcsports.com
Note - It’s almost as though you think Dan Snyder has done a good job as the owner.
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