Says a ton about narduzzi’s offensive recruiting that a guy in his 7th start is already better than Pickett who is a senior....remember, Pickett is narduzzi’s best offensive recruit in his time here.
Jurkovec is already better than Pickett.
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you & titleman should do a joint call to Dunlop on the fan and the three of you can slobber all over him
Can we admit it was a huge failure by narduzzi not getting him here? He is literally lighting up Clemson right now.
It is not so much slobbering over Jurkovec as it is criticizing Pat that he let a great western PA recruit get away and that his best offensive player he brought in is at best above average as a senior.
if we made a trade tomorrow do you think the results would be different? Whipple would still screw it up and Pickett would probably be doing well at BC.
But I said at the time not signing Jurkovec and Canada leaving guaranteed more Tire Bowls and not ACC championships. It is the combo of excellent coaching and talent at the QB spot that wins championship. We don't have that with Whipple.
He recruited him twice and he said no twice. It happens.
Does anyone realize that Pickett is an NFL prospect? Hell, Leigh Steinberg is interested in him. That should tell you something. To diss him is pathetic. He is much better than many realize.
The kid had no real interest in Pitt. He chose the only two Catholic schools in FBS. I don't like our offense either but some recruits you just can't get.
pickett might be a kid To late rounder. Not really something to brag about as your best recruit On offense.
With KP, this team hasn’t lost by more than a point this year. Two games that should have been wins, including against this team beating Clemson. He is an important player.
Just because a kid is from an area doesn’t make it a failure. *Most* kids go to school somewhere other than their hometown.
The obsession with this kid is pretty silly. I would understand it if he were here but never got a shot and left. Let ND fans feel that way
Just because a kid is from an area doesn’t make it a failure. *Most* kids go to school somewhere other than their hometown.
The obsession with this kid is pretty silly. I would understand it if he were here but never got a shot and left. Let ND fans feel that way
If only games lasted about 25 minutes he'd be an All American or something. Too bad they made him come out for the second half.
Dabo did make an awful decision when he wasted 2 TO’s and then his kicker missed the Extra Point.
He completed 12 passes… Give it a rest
Lawrence and Fields were better than Pickett before they even played a college snap? What's your point?
It really doesn't say too much. Jurkovic was much more highly rated than Kenny. It tells me more about ND than anything and that it really doesn't seem like he got a great chance to start there. IMO he is better than Book who is a game manager at best.
It was as if since we weren't playing today he felt that someone out there needed to go full Narduzzi.
And he was just the guy to do it!
At least he did not go for it on 4th down near the end of the game, like he did against Pitt a few years ago, setting up the field goal to beat him.
The obsession may be silly. That said, he is the prime example of why Pitt is where it is. When Pitt was a solid program, kids like this wanted to stay home and be a part of it. Now, they have little to no interest in playing here. We lost our way many years ago and from the looks of things, we are not going to get it back.
Furthermore, for those of you who say he sucks, you are either jealous or off your rockers. I am not a fan of the kid, mostly because he didn't even give us a shot. In my opinion, he will be an all-american next year. People wonder why we don't get better or have a great season once in a while. Maybe if we were able to land a Terrelle Pryor or Phil Jurkovec once in a blue moon, we could get there. Problem is, with our current football profile, these kids don't even give us a sniff.
Pickett went down and Pitt has one touchdown for 1 yard. He clearly sucks otherwise though.
How many all-American QB’s are named? I saw probably 10-15 quarterbacks today better than Jurkovec that will be back next year, including the guy he played against today.
There is literally zero chance he will be one of the top 3 qb’s in the country next season, and I mean none. Guy has some talent, but if he wasnt from the Pittsburgh area would there be one single person on this board saying “Holy crap that new QB for BC is incredible, that guy is going to be an All-American next year”.
And ... a guy who barely played at Pitt (Dinucci) is starting in the NFL later today. Counting Flacco, that's two quarterbacks who weren't good enough for Pitt but are good enough for the NFL. 🙄
I've posted already and in 2016. Canada & Jurkovec gives you a shot at the ACC championshp. Max Browne & Watson/Whipple you play for Tire bowls. Very disappointed not being able to have both at the time and the results now speak for themselves. Although I'd hold off on the all-american talk yet. Pickett & Canada would have been interesting too. And while Pryor would have been a difference maker here, he didn't even make all-conference in the Big 10
Hyperbole much?? I would love to hear your list of 10-15 QB's better. I think your list, if you were impartial, would stop at about 5. He is a serious talent that might be a star down the road in the NFL if he stays injury free. Brian Kelley is a serious dope for staying with Ian Book and chasing him off. Notre Dame will not beat Clemson with Book, they would have a real shot with Jurkovec.
Agree on Pryor. Like you say tho, he would have instantly raised the profile of our school for other recruits as well and maybe jump started the program to a place it hasn't been in a long time.
Jurkovec has the physical tools. He has some intangibles. He has a long way to go before he reaches all american status. Can he get there? With a lot of hard work he can get there. He needs to a better feel for the game. He still floats balls, he needs to get a better feel for the game.
He’s very close to Pickett. I get that that is the original poster’s point to show a lack of development on our end, but he still doesn’t make us any better.
He has no feel for the pocket and runs himself into sacks and pressure a lot by trying to escape the tackle box the second he feels any pressure. Much like KP.
He has no feel for the pocket and runs himself into sacks and pressure a lot by trying to escape the tackle box the second he feels any pressure. Much like KP.
Book is now 26-3 as a starter at ND.
He was a fifth year senior who asked to come back, having thrown for over 3,000 yards with 34 TD's to 6 interceptions and added over 500 yards rushing last year. He was 20-3 at the time.
If you were the head coach at ND last January (with no hindsight from now), would you have turned that guy down with an OL like ND's returning and some good running backs and good defense?
The alternative was to tell Book no and go with a guy who had never played and allegedly looked mediocre in practice.
I don't think many coaches would have told Book to go pound sand in that scenario and wanting to compete for a playoff berth with an experienced starting QB.
I wish that Jurkovec had stayed and wish him well. I wish that he didn't transfer, he could have had a shot at starting at ND next year.
However, ND has a 5 star Elite 11 QB coming in next year named Tyler Buchner from California so I think that it will be alright at that position going forward.
Even if he stayed this season, he might have transferred next year if Buchner came in and was named the starter.
So hyperbole, but you think a guy who isn't a top five QB in the ACC this year is going to be, at worst, a top five quarterback in the country next year.
Yeah, OK.
They seem similar to me except Jurkovic throws much nicer ball especially deeper. Kenny doesn’t have that.
Canada leaving probably the death knell for Nard.
Lawrence, Uiagalelei and Howell are significantly better. He's not even close to any of those three. Cunningham and Leary are both having better seasons so far, although Leary has been hurt a lot. You could easily make a case for both Hartman and Book. Some people might make an argument for King, although I wouldn't. And the fact is that Jurkovec hasn't really been much, if any, better than Pickett.
The fact is that if Pickett comes out later this season and plays exactly the way that Jurkovec played yesterday, meaning 12-24 overall, 4-12 in the second half, 1-6 for 3 yards in the 4th quarter, people on this board are going to be roasting him for his poor play and wondering why in the heck we didn't play whomever is 3rd or 4th on the depth chart that week. And they'll be pissed because his terrible 4th quarter play kept us from a huge upset.
Because the grass is always greener on the other side.
Because the grass is always greener on the other side.
Obviously the two Clemson kids are in a class by themselves. Howell also is very good. The only QB that is in that class across the nation in my opinion is Justin Fields. Lumping him in with the others you mentioned weakens your argument. One thing these other QB's have that Jurkovec does not is a quality running game. Can you imagine what Jurkovec might look like if he had Travis Ettiene?
Jurkovec was responsible as of yesterday, for 79% of his teams offense. If BC gets more talent around him for next season, I don't think it is crazy to think he might attain all-american status. Meanwhile, BC will ascend in the ACC while Jurkovec is there, and Pitt will continue to wallow in mediocrity.
Jurkovec was responsible as of yesterday, for 79% of his teams offense. If BC gets more talent around him for next season, I don't think it is crazy to think he might attain all-american status. Meanwhile, BC will ascend in the ACC while Jurkovec is there, and Pitt will continue to wallow in mediocrity.
Pointing out where he actually is, as opposed to where some fanboys imagine that he is, in no way weakens my argument.
Right now Jurkovec is 7th in the conference in passing efficiency. He's a little behind Book and about the same amount ahead of Pickett. And unlike both Book and Pickett he really doesn't offer you anything in the running game. He's no more a top five quarterback in the conference than Pickett is. If he wasn't a local kid who went elsewhere no one here would think that he was any better than Pickett.
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