You got me confused with someone else. I'm not angry at anyone discussed here. Just annoyed that some players get a pass and obviously one doesn't, and for half assed reasons.
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You got me confused with someone else. I'm not angry at anyone discussed here. Just annoyed that some players get a pass and obviously one doesn't, and for half assed reasons.
Yea, like Drumgoole now. I have said he hasn't been good but I saw him in a HS game and the scrimmage. He's a good player. Its just going to take some time for the light to go on. Am I going to predict all-league for him like I correctly did for Carr? No. But I do think Drumgoole can be an ACC-level starter eventually.
I think maybe I missed that when you said eff Blair Taft and whoever the third was that you actually didn’t mean it. I assume now you were making a point I missed. Whoops.
However equating Carr with those guys is still a little different. But I think now I get where you were going. My bad.
Why do you think this was, DT? I never could understand why the thought of Capel, with his Duke pedigree, being their coach wouldn't have been attractive.
Carr is shooting at a high volume but only making .369%. If he put up the same numbers this year at Pitt- these trolls would be hammering him for shooting so poorly.
If he were in Pitt's rotation he would be the worst shooter in their top 8 right now.
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I imagine it’s miserable being part of the worst P5 team ever and you probably just want to get the F out.
I'm sure losing had something to do with it, but if you were one of the few who attended games that year you would know there was a lot more in play. Describing the atmosphere as toxic doesn't begin to do it justice. Seriously, bags over students heads. The catcalls. As a fan, just a shameful experience. Can only imagine what it was like as a player.
I’m sure that played a role. It was necessary though. Another year of KS and you may as well fold the program.
When you’re a player on a historically bad team .
I assume you’re aware
yet 3 of those players stayed and 2 left
I don't. I see him being quickly recruited over. It is okay, it happens in programs that are on an upward trajectory.
I think we should hit the pause button on judging a true frosh . Especially one who was injured most of the season
I really have no idea — haven’t talked to anyone who has great insight other than a somewhat strange loyalty to Stallings and maybe being angry at Pitt for letting him go.
He has great length - he seems to have a good handle on defense -
It’s just clear his confidence on offense is broken .
He actually made good passes to attack the zone .
there is hope for him.
Never thought my original post which was an FYI type post would get this much board reaction but then again this is what a message board is all about .
I mean I understand some folks don’t want to root for him because he left, but this is not a good take at all. He is playing at a high level. No P5 point guard in the country is doing what he is doing in terms of the combo of scoring, assists and rebounds. His shooting had vastly improved from his freshman year and has hit some clutch jumpers (see the end of Ohio State) that very few of Pitt’s Top 8 have ever made.
Sage advice and completely on board. Too bad you didn't post this pearl of wisdom a few years ago.
Are you dense? Where was this post when the team starters pretty much consisted of all true freshman.
He shot .390% as a freshman at Pitt. He's shooting worse at Minnesota.
How is his current .369% vastly better than the .390% he shot as a freshman?
When did I attack those players?
You’re inventing a straw man to knock down .
I’m consistent in patience for young players who can develop
No 37% is not great, but if you want to judge a PG by shooting alone that’s your choice. If he does get to around 40% shooting, he will be at 20 ppg to go with his assist and rebound numbers. He’s not a finished product but watching him he’s pretty clearly a significantly better all-around PG than he was.
His assist rates and rebounding rates are similar to his freshman stats. The big difference is his playing time has increased from 2 years ago.
Basically, he's largely the same player only 2 years older. The reason im pointing this out to expose a troll like SMF. I have no gripe regarding Carr but he hasn't made any great leap forward.
I guess my point is that he is a smoother, more confident player who plays the position differently than most. And while I don’t think he’s All-American level, he’s definitely someone who potentially projects as 1st-Team All-Big Ten as an upperclassman.
He looks the same to me. A .369% volume scorer who doesn't play defense. If that's all B1G; it says more about the talent in that league as anything.
I meant by the end of his career, but either way it will be interesting to watch.
I guess to some
I don’t care about Minnesota nor the b10 conference .
he wasn’t run off , he bailed after a historically bad season
He’s just another player
He graduated. We should celebrate a Pitt alum who went on to pursue a competitive post-graduate career path.
Your entitled too , to me he was the final straw in making Pitt bb irrelevant .
During the 2 yrs that followed unless you consider zero conference wins relevant . All the fans who gave up their tickets pretty much agreed .
Not scorned , I just don’t root for him . It’s hard to blame anyone , even today that would choose to play bb at UNC over Pitt .
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