Agree and disagree on Jarry. His performance in shootouts was pathetic and kind of amplified how the dude wilts under pressure But yeah Jarry had plenty of company in stinking out the joint. One of the biggest culprits is captain Ole Karlson.
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Jarry proved capable of being an all star level goalie for a few seasons - and I probably liked him because his style reminded me of MAF.
But , sometimes goalies just go bad - a change or scenery will hopefully revive him.
Maybe in a more structured and disciplined team.
Wish it worked out so we had our next franchise goalie .
Agree with everyone who stated that the Pens have multiple significant flaws leading to their poor record and one of the many flaws is goaltending .......
Interesting, but not surprising, that Pens put Jarry on waivers ...... many of us said back when Jarry was an UFA that his performance at the time was such that Dubas should give him a short term contract (2-3 years) with a modest increase in salary (from his previous 3.5M to maybe 4-4.5M) ...... more or less a prove yourself type contract ....... he was given a 5 year contract with a cap hit of 5.375M/year which looks like a big mistake at present ...... I expect him to clear waivers and be sent to WBS and the Pens to recall Blomqvist to Pittsburgh.
Jarry has a modified-NTC which says he can list 12 teams that he can't be traded to which means there are 19 teams he can be traded to ....... but who wants him with his performance and that contract, to trade him the Pens would probably have to retain 50% of his salary (maximum that can be retained) and/or enhance the deal by giving the other team high draft pick(s) and/or high prospect(s) or making him part of a multiple player deal with other better players going to the other team or the Pens taking on just as bad of a contract back, etc ..... obviously the Pens would like not to do any of these things ........ therefore the Pens are in a bind here ..... probably easier to deal Ned .....
Regarding the goals that Jarry gave up last night against the Kraken and whether they were soft goals .....
Goal #1 was a shot from the level of the top of the right circle (a little toward mid-ice from the top of the circle), no screen, no deflection, not a particular hard shot and he muffed it with his blocker ...... this was a soft/bad goal ..... it was a low danger shot that an average NHL would make the save 96-97+% of the time .......
Goal #3 TJ was in the rVH position appropriately and had his stick in proper position to try and stop a pass across the crease ..... even though the Pens had 4 defenders against 2 Kraken players, Seattle still scored because the Pens defenders lost track of who they should be defending ....... the pass across was just outside the reach of Jarry's stick and was shot in the backdoor ...... Jarry played it as well as he could and had basically no chance to make a save ...... good goal, bad defense by Pens skaters .....
Goal #2 is a little harder to evaluate ..... certainly Malkin and Pettersson made mistakes defensively that caused Oleksiak to get a good shot that he never should have gotten from the left inner circle at the level of the hash marks ...... this is an area close to the border between high danger and medium danger shots (probably just into the medium danger area) ....... Jarry was in decent (not perfect) position but Oleksiak's shot was pretty hard and well placed ...... in this area of the ice between a high danger and medium danger shot, the goalies SV% should be about 85% ....... so this was not an easy save nor a soft/bad goal but certainly one that you hope your goalie can make if you want to win a close game ...... Jarry did get hung out by poor defense on the play ....... it can change a little in different years but in general, average SV% for High Danger shots is 80-81%, for Medium Danger shots 87-89%, and for Low Danger shots 96-97+%.
How do the Pens goalies advanced stats compare to other goalies in the league this season .......
delta SV% ....... TJ is ranked 39th out of the top 43 goalies ..... Ned is 40th out of 43
Goals Saved Above Expected ...... TJ is 41st out of 43 ..... Ned is 40th out of 43
High Danger SV% ...... TJ 43th out of 44 ...... Ned is 41st out of 44.
At present it looks like the longer term future of Pens goaltending is between Blomqvist, Murashov, and Larsson all of whom are solid/good prospects ...... that could change, we'll see how it plays out.
Interesting, but not surprising, that Pens put Jarry on waivers ...... many of us said back when Jarry was an UFA that his performance at the time was such that Dubas should give him a short term contract (2-3 years) with a modest increase in salary (from his previous 3.5M to maybe 4-4.5M) ...... more or less a prove yourself type contract ....... he was given a 5 year contract with a cap hit of 5.375M/year which looks like a big mistake at present ...... I expect him to clear waivers and be sent to WBS and the Pens to recall Blomqvist to Pittsburgh.
Jarry has a modified-NTC which says he can list 12 teams that he can't be traded to which means there are 19 teams he can be traded to ....... but who wants him with his performance and that contract, to trade him the Pens would probably have to retain 50% of his salary (maximum that can be retained) and/or enhance the deal by giving the other team high draft pick(s) and/or high prospect(s) or making him part of a multiple player deal with other better players going to the other team or the Pens taking on just as bad of a contract back, etc ..... obviously the Pens would like not to do any of these things ........ therefore the Pens are in a bind here ..... probably easier to deal Ned .....
Regarding the goals that Jarry gave up last night against the Kraken and whether they were soft goals .....
Goal #1 was a shot from the level of the top of the right circle (a little toward mid-ice from the top of the circle), no screen, no deflection, not a particular hard shot and he muffed it with his blocker ...... this was a soft/bad goal ..... it was a low danger shot that an average NHL would make the save 96-97+% of the time .......
Goal #3 TJ was in the rVH position appropriately and had his stick in proper position to try and stop a pass across the crease ..... even though the Pens had 4 defenders against 2 Kraken players, Seattle still scored because the Pens defenders lost track of who they should be defending ....... the pass across was just outside the reach of Jarry's stick and was shot in the backdoor ...... Jarry played it as well as he could and had basically no chance to make a save ...... good goal, bad defense by Pens skaters .....
Goal #2 is a little harder to evaluate ..... certainly Malkin and Pettersson made mistakes defensively that caused Oleksiak to get a good shot that he never should have gotten from the left inner circle at the level of the hash marks ...... this is an area close to the border between high danger and medium danger shots (probably just into the medium danger area) ....... Jarry was in decent (not perfect) position but Oleksiak's shot was pretty hard and well placed ...... in this area of the ice between a high danger and medium danger shot, the goalies SV% should be about 85% ....... so this was not an easy save nor a soft/bad goal but certainly one that you hope your goalie can make if you want to win a close game ...... Jarry did get hung out by poor defense on the play ....... it can change a little in different years but in general, average SV% for High Danger shots is 80-81%, for Medium Danger shots 87-89%, and for Low Danger shots 96-97+%.
How do the Pens goalies advanced stats compare to other goalies in the league this season .......
delta SV% ....... TJ is ranked 39th out of the top 43 goalies ..... Ned is 40th out of 43
Goals Saved Above Expected ...... TJ is 41st out of 43 ..... Ned is 40th out of 43
High Danger SV% ...... TJ 43th out of 44 ...... Ned is 41st out of 44.
At present it looks like the longer term future of Pens goaltending is between Blomqvist, Murashov, and Larsson all of whom are solid/good prospects ...... that could change, we'll see how it plays out.
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Thanks for the analysis. So far Dubas has made some terrible moved (Graves, Karlsson and Jarry) come to mind off the top of my head. For sure he didn’t come into a good situation but it seems he’s made it worse
Goalies are a lot like relievers in baseball. They get hot, play off of confidence, but they can lose it and lose it quickly. Few and far between are those goalies who can be excellent season after season.
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