OT: Stillers
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I apologize to Arthur Smith for complaining about running the ball too much, They have to, their pass blocking is TERRIBLE.
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We still have our annual 1st round playoff blowout loss.
It was the fourth time in the past six years the Steelers have lost three consecutive games in December and the fifth time in the past seven years they have lost three in a row after Thanksgiving.
Nah. You're lucking out, which is good for the mediocre mike folks. Texans are cooked without Diggs and Dell. Quite beatable.
They’re looking cooked early on against the Ravens. But the Ravens are better than the Steelers. And the Steelers got destroyed by Houston last year… although the teams are a bit different.
They are, but, the Steelers will not make it happen. Their coach and players blow! Maybe if it was Tennessee or Jacksonville we'd have a legit shot at a W.
5-10 more years of Rooney+Tomlin will have fans believing we are the football version of our Buccos! This shitshow needs to stop real soon. This is a proud franchise that used to be about winning superbowls. Now those running this franchise are content with being 500 or slightly above and a surefire first round exit from the playoffs when we get there. If it isn't addressed soon and the Buffoon Tomlin is allowed to continue his slick talking charade, the fans and the media will surely turn away from Steeler football, as it will no longer command their attention, much like the baseball team in this town.
Do we trust the same ownership who has allowed Tomlin to handpick his pathetic coaching staff for the past two decades to pick a new Head Coach?
Actually that might be a way to get the first overall pick and get a franchise QB.
Actually that might be a way to get the first overall pick and get a franchise QB.
All Talk, No Shock.
This is not a very good team. For years Tomlin has picked terrible coordinators. The OL has sucked for at least a decade. We keep drafting extremely talented WRs who have rocks for brains. The defense is so far from being clutch that there is no feeling that they will make big plays to turn this around. When does Teryl start to get some heat?
The late season swoons are embarrassing. Is this the third or fourth straight year they've lost three or four games in December?
They just are not very good and I am glad I didn't watch much of this game today.
This is not a very good team. For years Tomlin has picked terrible coordinators. The OL has sucked for at least a decade. We keep drafting extremely talented WRs who have rocks for brains. The defense is so far from being clutch that there is no feeling that they will make big plays to turn this around. When does Teryl start to get some heat?
The late season swoons are embarrassing. Is this the third or fourth straight year they've lost three or four games in December?
They just are not very good and I am glad I didn't watch much of this game today.
The last eleven days they’ve played three of the four best teams in the league and they’re simply not in their class . They would need to be 100% healthy and get all the breaks to beat any off them .
Going winless in these three games doesn’t mean they can’t win a playoff game , but they certainly showed they can’t run the table .
It’s not Wilson , N Harris or the WRs it’s the O line and defense that just aren’t good enough .
Going winless in these three games doesn’t mean they can’t win a playoff game , but they certainly showed they can’t run the table .
It’s not Wilson , N Harris or the WRs it’s the O line and defense that just aren’t good enough .
I'd start and finish with the defense as the culprit. The GM and coach are next. No team in the NFL comes close to the money they spend on the defense. It's embarrassing the kind of effort they get from these guys. They at least have gotten younger and less expensive on the O-line. Watt, Heyward, and Minkah eat up a ton of cap room. Watt, when fully healthy may be worth it, but, he has disappeared in these last three big games.
Minkah has been a complete bust after the 1st year he was here.
You can't win building your team around a defense anymore. Especially one that is horrible.
I am so tired of Tomlin and Khan. Fire this smooth talking clown and tank the team for a couple years so we can get some impact players. Our drafts have been average at best lately. We need a new direction, and while we are at it, stop drafting babies with IQ's that match. They have done a very poor job of drafting character people. Ofcourse, Tomlin helps that along by letting the inmates run the asylum.
Tomlin can gather some individual talent on defense, but putting it together as a unit has been pretty dismal.
Not sure I agree with all of this. The problem with Tomlin is the jabronis he’s hired as coordinators and the rest of the staff. Since all of Cowhers left overs have gone he’s hired stiffs.
You can’t win without great defense. Look at the chiefs D. It’s better than the Steelers. Is it talent or coaching ? Who is responsible for not covering the HOF TE or letting the chiefs dink and dunk their way down the field ?
But yeah you also have to have a really good offense. And more than anything that side of the ball has been neglected. From awful OCs to jokes as OL coaches to drafting ten cent head WRs to totally ignoring the OL when you had an NFL HOF Qb. The one constant during all of this is Teflon Mike
The defense is vanilla. It’s relies on pressure from the two OLBs and that’s it. There’s no complexity. There’s no nuance. Are they blitzing an ILB, safety or corner? Do they disguise anything? Nah. When do you see that? Not very often. The opposing QB can go up to the line on essentially every play and know where he’s going with the football. It’s such a complete contrast from a dick Lebeau defense.
It's called ineffective leadership.
Tomlin has been a mess for a while. It's especially troubling when you're having the same problems in December of 2024 that you were having in December of 2019. No pass protection. Lack of playmakers on offense. CB's that struggle with good receivers. I think the worst part of this season is that he sold out to try to win it all and the franchise will be an absolute mess in February, regardless of how the season ends. Can probably stomach that if there's a championship but that seems pretty unlikely this morning. Wild how Tomlin manages to not have losing seasons.
so in short, a Tomlin-like season. which 50% of this fan base loves for some weird reason..
Nailed it. I’m not sure I saw one blitz yesterday but I could be wrong. Teflon Mike talks a big game but lives in his fears. He plays not to lose
It’s why he’s earned the Knick name mediocre Mike. He’s a good enough to be .500 but not good enough to compete for championships.
The most telling aspect of this is that several veterans are complaining out loud about the attitude of the locker room so we're once again seeing poor that poor leadership manifesting itself as a lack of discipline. It's been an ongoing problem for a long time.
Tomlin has the best job security of any professional coach on the planet. Why make any changes when you don't feel any pressure?
Tomlin is the person who hired those "janbronis". If they are the problem, then solve the problem by replacing the HC.
Good leaders hire assistants who can replace them. That is part of the problem with Tomlin.
Totally agree - basic and vanilla as he!!. Nothing remotely innovative at all.
Austin finally getting a tad bit of heat from local media. a year too late. another bad coordinator hire from tomlin, what are the odds..
Give just about any NFL QB enough time even the best dbs can’t stay with an NFL quality receiver .
The last three weeks the Steelers have played three QBs that can evade the rush and make shineola out of shit . Pretty hard to defend these guys .
Playing Minkah as a deep safety tells you something about the trust the Steelers have in their pass coverage.
Watt is playing injured and hasn’t been as effective lately and without that the defensive scheme just doesn’t work .
I know they won’t do it , but I’d rest TJ and Cam and any other injured player against Cincy . I’d rather play healthy on the road .
The last three weeks the Steelers have played three QBs that can evade the rush and make shineola out of shit . Pretty hard to defend these guys .
Playing Minkah as a deep safety tells you something about the trust the Steelers have in their pass coverage.
Watt is playing injured and hasn’t been as effective lately and without that the defensive scheme just doesn’t work .
I know they won’t do it , but I’d rest TJ and Cam and any other injured player against Cincy . I’d rather play healthy on the road .
Listen, I defend Porter and Pickett, not because I think they are great players, but simply because they are young in their careers and I think people have been overly harsh and their minds are made up due to flawed reasoning. So I understand those who have dug their heels in defending Tomlin. Except he’s been at this for a very long time at this point and how can anyone defend with a straight face these December collapses happening almost every year? People should really try to have my objectivity
. Tomlin isn’t very good. He’s also not bad. Tomlin can win again if given the right situation. That situation just doesn’t appear to be here.
this "system" or strategy is his though. it's not Khan's or Colbert's thrust upon him. He has been calling the shots with the draft, with FA pickups, with paying (over paying) the defensive players, with ridiculous coaching hires. Everything holding this franchise back is his call.Listen, I defend Porter and Pickett, not because I think they are great players, but simply because they are young in their careers and I think people have been overly harsh and their minds are made up due to flawed reasoning. So I understand those who have dug their heels in defending Tomlin. Except he’s been at this for a very long time at this point and how can anyone defend with a straight face these December collapses happening almost every year? People should really try to have my objectivity
Tomlin can win again if given the right situation. That situation just doesn’t appear to be here.
It's groundhog day over and over and over and nothing changes, NOTHING. and it reaps the same results and steeler fans act surprised that we have epic december failures, that our offensive system is outdated and unsuccessful, that we creep over the .500% line and get smoked in the first rd of the playoffs.
This happens every year and steeler fans act surprised, it's insane. literally is the definition of insanity. but here we are. hey, at least we have the over 500% streak going..
Hot take: losing yesterday might actually help the Steelers in the long run. They’ll likely lose the division and play a reeling Texans team in the Wild Card.
Or we get bumped to the sixth seed and have to face the Ravens for a third time…
Or we get bumped to the sixth seed and have to face the Ravens for a third time…
Can’t argue with one word or one syllable of what you just said.
For as impressive as Tomlin is as a leader off the field, and I respect him for all of it, none of it can overcome these inadequacies. It’s shown that it simply isn’t the right recipe to compete for championships. It’s like thinking your spice mix can turn flank steak into filet mignon. It can make the flank steak more palatable but at the end of the day it’s still flank steak and you aren’t winning any culinary awards.
This year in and year out performance can’t be defended. And the brand is dying a slow death with each passing year.
but we cant fire him because he'll get a job with someone else quickly after. that's seriously the argument some fans make..
