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When I was much younger I hung out with a group of guys that loved the Steve Miller Band. When they would blast his music in the car I'd just keep my mouth shut but I hated every minute of it. It just did nothing for me but annoy me.

Finally, one year, they all made plans to all go to the Steve Miller concert - he came every year. One of them, a really nice kid, asked me if I would go to and I declined.

That really upset my friend – far more than I had intended to. I wasn't trying to be an idiot, I just had no interest in seeing that show and was trying to be honest with him about it.

Basically, he reasoned, as many do, "Hey, if you don't like the music it's still a fun party." And that was the difference between us. I wouldn't go to a football game if I hated football and I wasn't going to go see a concert of a band that I just didn't connect with on any level.

I am dead serious when I say that my relationship with that group of friends, whom I had known all my life, was never the same after that. I probably should've been more delicate in my explanation. I guess you live and you learn?
DVY, cant understand your reasoning with missing out on the party.. I am one that loves, LOVES tailgating more than anything, basically like drinking outside.. A day out with a group of friends, especially when you are younger with zero worries, at a concert, that's a great day.. Hell, I went to a Traffic concert, had a blast.. Do you know how bad a concert is with Steve freaqin Winwood? Still had a great time..
 
Rush is old school hipster...never got the commercial success that other bands got (see the many years of not getting in the R&R HOF), but had a dedicated following. But they are definitely a love em or hate em band.
 
Rage is amazing. Its funny. Being young and a moron, I used to like their songs but not really understand or care about their message. Now that I understand it and the issues they raise. I like them even more.

I only saw them at Woodstock 99. Was a great show. I watch it on YouTube sometimes. I wish Zach would tour and stop being a weirdo.
 
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DVY, cant understand your reasoning with missing out on the party.. I am one that loves, LOVES tailgating more than anything, basically like drinking outside.. A day out with a group of friends, especially when you are younger with zero worries, at a concert, that's a great day.. Hell, I went to a Traffic concert, had a blast.. Do you know how bad a concert is with Steve freaqin Winwood? Still had a great time..

Yeah, in retrospect, you are probably right. I probably should've kept my mouth shut, went to the concert and just hung out with my friends and talked to girls. I think if I had known then what I know now that is what I would've done. However, I was young and had a totally different mindset.

Most people can't understand it and I get that. Also, I take full responsibility for not being more delicate and articulate in how I expressed my disdain for his music.

As I said, I was young and immature and I was wrong. I didn't mean for it to come out as being beneath me – just that it was not my cup of tea in the exact same way that my favorite music wasn't on any of their play lists. However, people get sensitive about this type of thing – especially when they are not used to people criticizing their music.

Me on the other hand, no one in my life ever liked my music growing up. Pretty much all of my family members and my friends thought it was garbage. Therefore, it would have felt weird to me if anyone told me they liked what I was listening to.

I guess it's just a personality thing and probably a maturity thing as well.
 
When I was much younger I hung out with a group of guys that loved the Steve Miller Band. When they would blast his music in the car I'd just keep my mouth shut but I hated every minute of it. It just did nothing for me but annoy me.

Finally, one year, they all made plans to all go to the Steve Miller concert - he came every year. One of them, a really nice kid, asked me if I would go to and I declined.

That really upset my friend – far more than I had intended to. I wasn't trying to be an idiot, I just had no interest in seeing that show and was trying to be honest with him about it.

Basically, he reasoned, as many do, "Hey, if you don't like the music it's still a fun party." And that was the difference between us. I wouldn't go to a football game if I hated football and I wasn't going to go see a concert of a band that I just didn't connect with on any level.

I am dead serious when I say that my relationship with that group of friends, whom I had known all my life, was never the same after that. I probably should've been more delicate in my explanation. I guess you live and you learn?
It's kind of funny I have a similar story but I said yes. I really had no interest in Steve Miller and don't appreciate his music but it was a good show and I was surprised I had a good time at the "party". Just this past weekend I was telling my son one of the keys to enjoying life was finding a way to say yes. I then had to provide a disclaimer about drugs and other illegal stuff. Anyhow, I remember my Dad telling me the summer the summer before attending Pitt as a Freshman, he told me to just say yes when you want to say no when someone wants to spend time with you but it's on their terms. It's the key to friendship and essential to really building a bunch of experiences. I kind of thought he was just saying Dad stuff but I have used this often. I honestly think I have better memories from the reluctant yes than all the things on my agenda.
 
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Yeah, in retrospect, you are probably right. I probably should've kept my mouth shut, went to the concert and just hung out with my friends and talked to girls. I think if I had known then what I know now that is what I would've done. However, I was young and had a totally different mindset.

Most people can't understand it and I get that. Also, I take full responsibility for not being more delicate and articulate in how I expressed my disdain for his music.

As I said, I was young and immature and I was wrong. I didn't mean for it to come out as being beneath me – just that it was not my cup of tea in the exact same way that my favorite music wasn't on any of their play lists. However, people get sensitive about this type of thing – especially when they are not used to people criticizing their music.

Me on the other hand, no one in my life ever liked my music growing up. Pretty much all of my family members and my friends thought it was garbage. Therefore, it would have felt weird to me if anyone told me they liked what I was listening to.

I guess it's just a personality thing and probably a maturity thing as well.
my buddies were into Phish in high school, early(ish) 90s and they always invited me to concerts and I did the same, "No thanks." despised this music. They were big potheads and I'd just pound beers so listening to a band play some song for 45 minutes just gets old to me.. The jam band or whatever you call it is not my cup of tea. Ironically enough, the "commercial" songs of Phish I actually came to like... Kind of like you, I should have just went to concert, tailgated and tried to bang some hippie chick
 
Rush is old school hipster...never got the commercial success that other bands got (see the many years of not getting in the R&R HOF), but had a dedicated following. But they are definitely a love em or hate em band.

I have never met a female fan of Rush - and I mean never. I think they are a guy thing and more specifically I think they are a math guy thing.

Every engineer I have ever met just loves Rush. I have no idea why that correlation exists but anecdotally speaking, it seems pretty strong. Also, they all want to blow Neil Peart. It's a little bit weird but whatever.

Personally, I'm OK with them. I don't love them but I certainly don't dislike them either. My wife, on the other hand, she hates them as much as any band in the world. She just thinks they are pure trash and that is odd for her because she doesn't really hate too much of anything. Generally speaking, she is a frustratingly positive person. However, that woman absolutely HATES Rush.

It's pretty funny actually.

For me, the Rush song that I've always liked the most, is "Working Man." I really can't explain why but I just love that song and on the rare occasion when it comes on the radio station I am listening to, I turn that sucker up. That had made for some pretty funny/tense car rides with the Mrs. over the years.
 
I have never met a female fan of Rush - and I mean never. I think they are a guy thing and more specifically I think they are a math guy thing.

Every engineer I have ever met just loves Rush. I have no idea why that correlation exists but anecdotally speaking, it seems pretty strong. Also, they all want to blow Neil Peart. It's a little bit weird but whatever.

Personally, I'm OK with them. I don't love them but I certainly don't dislike them either. My wife, on the other hand, she hates them as much as any band in the world. She just thinks they are pure trash and that is odd for her because she doesn't really hate too much of anything. Generally speaking, she is a frustratingly positive person. However, that woman absolutely HATES Rush.

It's pretty funny actually.

For me, the Rush song that I've always liked the most, is "Working Man." I really can't explain why but I just love that song and on the rare occasion when it comes on the radio station I am listening to, I turn that sucker up.
I actually had a locker in high school next to a girl that had the Rush CD box taped to the inside of her locker.. I told her Tom Sawyer is a dumb song and she said I probably have a small d**k.. Lucky guess..
 

Yeah, I knew the Prince thing would ruffle some feathers. However, isn't that the point of this thread?

Perhaps that was an unfair selection by me because that's really not my preferred genre of music. I am not coming at him with a huge knowledge base like I am some of the others.

I am just saying that for a guy who is considered one of the elite of the elite, his window for producing meaningful music was awfully narrow. I don't think he sucks, per se. However, I do think he is grossly overrated.
 
I actually had a locker in high school next to a girl that had the Rush CD box taped to the inside of her locker.. I told her Tom Sawyer is a dumb song and she said I probably have a small d**k.. Lucky guess..

LOL!
 
If there's lessons to be learned from this thread, it's that there is not one band that 100% of people would consider to be "iconic". And there's not one band that anyone can't find something negative about if they tried hard enough. ;)
 
Rage is amazing. Its funny. Being young and a moron, I used to like their songs but not really understand or care about their message. Now that I understand it and the issues they raise. I like them even more.

I only saw them at Woodstock 99. Was a great show. I watch it on YouTube sometimes. I wish Zach would tour and stop being a weirdo.

Yeah, I saw them live too and they put on a great show. They have a lot of energy. Tom Morello is a very talented musician.

I just think all of their songs sound exactly the same.

Every single song is about systemic injustice and every single song follows the exact same pattern. I just find it boring after a while.

The guitars are over-the-top and Zach is constantly yelling about this injustice or that injustice. I guess I would just like to see some sound diversity from them, that's all.

Incidentally, as I said earlier, I feel the same way about Metallica. I think their music is geared almost exclusively at angry and sexually frustrated teenage boys.
 
It's kind of funny I have a similar story but I said yes. I really had no interest in Steve Miller and don't appreciate his music but it was a good show and I was surprised I had a good time at the "party". Just this past weekend I was telling my son one of the keys to enjoying life was finding a way to say yes. I then had to provide a disclaimer about drugs and other illegal stuff. Anyhow, I remember my Dad telling me the summer the summer before attending Pitt as a Freshman, he told me to just say yes when you want to say no when someone wants to spend time with you but it's on their terms. It's the key to friendship and essential to really building a bunch of experiences. I kind of thought he was just saying Dad stuff but I have used this often. I honestly think I have better memories from the reluctant yes than all the things on my agenda.

Your father was absolutely right. I wish I had gotten the same advice and was wise/humble enough to follow it.

In fact, it took me a long time to understand that cynicism is a disease that you have to constantly fight off – particularly if you are, like me, naturally cynical about people and their motivations.

I don't think people are inherently good or bad. However, I do think that most people are naturally selfish or at the very least self-interested.

There is almost always an angle and being able to quickly figure out just what that angle is has been one of my strengths and his allowed me to have some small success both personally and professionally.

Also, people will let you down. In most cases it's not a matter of if but when. Also, when they do let you down, it will probably be in the worst way imaginable.

That is why you have to be very careful in choosing your friends/spouses and heroes because far more often than not, they will let you down. Unfortunately, i have been forced to learn that lesson again and again and again over the years.

However, none of that matters. You have to choose to be optimistic about things. You have to choose to believe in people and causes anyway. Otherwise, you will end up sad and bitter and alone. I really do think my wife and her family taught me that lesson.

They are just really good people and very positive about most people and things. I used to see that as naïveté and a bit of a weakness. That made me very protective of my wife in particular. However, I now see their seemingly boundless optimism and grace as a choice, which makes it strength that I hope we are able to impart on our two little boys.

Finally, you have to choose your spouse wisely. If you make a good choice in that regard your life will take a dramatically different trajectory than if you make a bad choice.

Don't be an idiot and choose the prettiest girl who wants to bang you too. Be smart. You should still choose a girl that you're attracted to but pick someone that will feed you soup when you're sick and who will lift you up when you're down. Choose someone who you think will be a good mother one day.

Most of all, just pick someone you like spending time with whenever you are fully clothed. That is much easier advice to give than to receive but it's also tried and true wisdom from someone who has been there and who by the grace of God did chose wisely. Had I chosen a different path, my life would be totally different and much, much worse.
 
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Air Supply
Wife and I just went to their concert in Atlantic City NJ.
Terrible music I forgot how bad it was until they started to play!
 
Yeah, I knew the Prince thing would ruffle some feathers. However, isn't that the point of this thread?

Perhaps that was an unfair selection by me because that's really not my preferred genre of music. I am not coming at him with a huge knowledge base like I am some of the others.

I am just saying that for a guy who is considered one of the elite of the elite, his window for producing meaningful music was awfully narrow. I don't think he sucks, per se. However, I do think he is grossly overrated.

I'm not even that big a Prince fan. I just wanted an excuse to reference "Purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka."
 
Air Supply
Wife and I just went to their concert in Atlantic City NJ.
Terrible music I forgot how bad it was until they started to play!

Yeah, but everyone realizes Air Supply sucks. Have you ever met an Air Supply super fan?

One night, I was having beers with some friends and one of them brought along another friend. That guy couldn't of been a nicer dude. He was just a very kind guy and was going with the flow.

Then, out of the blue, somebody brought up music and one of them mentioned in passing that I was a huge music fan. Without batting an eyelash he offered that he too was a huge music fan and that his all-time favorite bands were Air Supply, REO Speedwagon and...most amazingly....Hughey Lewis and the News.

I burst into laughter thinking he was being sarcastic but he was dead serious and it made the rest of the night extremely awkward. I felt like such a jerk. I have run into that guy and his wife several more times over the years and it is still awkward. He clearly hates my guts and I probably deserve it.
 
WOW. What a thread. I was going to actually post something like this. This is PERFECT!!!

Okay..........Grateful Dead. Don't get them, don't like them. ZZ Top. Blah. Here's one while I respect the talent........I never liked....Stevie Ray Vaughn. And..........the whopper of all whopper's.........I just never really care for the Beatles. Again, mad respect......but it isn't something I was going to buy or make efforts into listening.

Agree with your first three picks ... but we part company on the Beatles.
 
The Stones....people say "if you saw em in the day".... bull....they put out the same stuff since 1981 (at least) and nowadays are the slightly tougher version of Jimmy Buffet....

Buffet....never got that....its the corporate worlds version hey I'm gonna get crazy and party wearing a dumb palm shirt and a parrot hat that's inflatable.....wooooo get down with your bad self ....no thanks

Springsteen....much of his stuff especially live sounds like a drunken bar brawl set to music.....

The Who...don't hate em....but they set the standard for ridiculously numerous false "final farewell tours"...the reason?....They started doing them in 1984.....

Another biggie...again don't hate....but holy keee- rist talk about overrated?..... Michael...yes that Michael....as in Jackson...as in all the talk of being a genius....talent? Sure....genius.....no.

I'll say this as a fan of Rush....most who "hate em" would have trouble naming 10 songs....maybe 5.
 
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I'll say this as a fan of Rush....most who "hate em" would have trouble naming 10 songs....maybe 5.
uhhh yeah, of course. If you hate a band, you don't spend too much time learning all of their songs.. it's fair to say anyone that knows more than 5 Rush songs HAS to be a die hard fan..
 
Can't remember if anyone mentioned journey or not, but I don't have a problem per se with them other than you can't be considered a legit rock act if the only reason people remember your music is from every mother son dance at weddings
 
Yeah, but everyone realizes Air Supply sucks. Have you ever met an Air Supply super fan?

One night, I was having beers with some friends and one of them brought along another friend. That guy couldn't of been a nicer dude. He was just a very kind guy and was going with the flow.

Then, out of the blue, somebody brought up music and one of them mentioned in passing that I was a huge music fan. Without batting an eyelash he offered that he too was a huge music fan and that his all-time favorite bands were Air Supply, REO Speedwagon and...most amazingly....Hughey Lewis and the News.

I burst into laughter thinking he was being sarcastic but he was dead serious and it made the rest of the night extremely awkward. I felt like such a jerk. I have run into that guy and his wife several more times over the years and it is still awkward. He clearly hates my guts and I probably deserve it.
I have to meet this guy.. I was at a party about two years ago and ran into a Huey Lewis fan, talked to him for about an hour before he changed the subject to cricket.. I was like Dude, this is America, we don't care about cricket, now let's get back to Huey..

Air Supply is weird, I mean outside of a 12 year old who just got dumped, is anyone really gonna listen to "all out of love" and think it's a great song..
 
Aerosmith is really 2 bands...the 70s stuff which kinda "meh"... and everything after their..."recovery"...which sucks ....Heart had similar problems....both had comebacks and I'm pretty sure the same "big power ballad" songwriting.....
 
U2
Van Halen
Rolling Stones
Cheap Trick

The Beatles would have been on this list but taking a class on them gave me a whole entire appreciation for them. I could see some hating early Beatles and not late or vice versa since they were so different as they evolved.
 
Air Supply
Wife and I just went to their concert in Atlantic City NJ.
Terrible music I forgot how bad it was until they started to play!

OK. I draw the line here. I am not sure what is "legendary" about Air Supply? I pretty much think Air Supply is the butt of many music jokes.
 
Can't remember if anyone mentioned journey or not, but I don't have a problem per se with them other than you can't be considered a legit rock act if the only reason people remember your music is from every mother son dance at weddings

I feel the same way about Bob Seger. Old Time Rock & Roll is for Grandmothers to shake their booty on the wedding dance floor to show the young'uns that they can still rock. That song just may be the worst popular rock song ever written. Either that or We Built This City on Rock & Roll by The Starship (or for that matter, anything by The Starship).
 
I feel the same way about Bob Seger. Old Time Rock & Roll is for Grandmothers to shake their booty on the wedding dance floor to show the young'uns that they can still rock. That song just may be the worst popular rock song ever written. Either that or We Built This City on Rock & Roll by The Starship (or for that matter, anything by The Starship).
that's how I feel about "I want you to want me," So bad I want to wreck my car into a pole when it's on my radio.. That song is followed by Man on the Silver Mountain and Black velvet as the worst songs ever made..
 
that's how I feel about "I want you to want me," So bad I want to wreck my car into a pole when it's on my radio.. That song is followed by Man on the Silver Mountain and Black velvet as the worst songs ever made..

Can you honestly tell me you forgot? Forgot the magnetism of Robin Zander, or the charisma of Rick Nielsen?
 
Almost forgot...Guns and Roses...never got their appeal...mostly because when came out they sounded almost entirely unoriginal...recycled 70' Ace Frehley les paul stuff...and I loved Kiss from 76-79...but I was 10-12 years old those years....GnR sounded verh very...not fresh.....then almost as fast as GnR rises they implode....drugs...fights...Assho..er Axel Rose throwing Stephanie Symore down flights of stairs...more fights....more drugs...little music worth hearing....I don't have time for the soap opera so I decided they were one big bloated manufactured mess who honestly could not function as a *band* (still can't).....say what you want about Nirvana....they arrived at the exact right time...

And Roses singing...? People complain about Geddy Lee...but listen to that nasally sounding "Heey..Heey...he h Heeey".....uuufffffff. Just awful.
 
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I feel the same way about Bob Seger. Old Time Rock & Roll is for Grandmothers to shake their booty on the wedding dance floor to show the young'uns that they can still rock. That song just may be the worst popular rock song ever written. Either that or We Built This City on Rock & Roll by The Starship (or for that matter, anything by The Starship).

Oh, yes. Totally agree. "We Built this City on Rock & Roll" is an especially offensive song. It literally raises my blood pressure every time it comes on the radio. If fact, if it comes on to a station I am listening to, that station goes on immediate indefinite probation.
 
that's how I feel about "I want you to want me," So bad I want to wreck my car into a pole when it's on my radio.. That song is followed by Man on the Silver Mountain and Black velvet as the worst songs ever made..

Those are good calls as well. This thread is fun.

Others. Anything by 38 Special is automatically horrible and also "Now You're Messing With a Sonovabitch" by Nazareth. Dear god, WTF?!
 
I think the White Stripes always sounded like a really good cover band. However, they don't cover a whole lot of new ground. Therefore, for me at least, they've always been kind of, "Eh, is that it?"
 
Those are good calls as well. This thread is fun.

Others. Anything by 38 Special is automatically horrible and also "Now You're Messing With a Sonovabitch" by Nazareth. Dear god, WTF?!

Yeah. Pretty much agree with that, that whole genre of which I don't even know how to describe it.
 
Whoa. "We Built This City On Rock and Roll"? Sorry. I gotta call you out on this one. The delivery by Mickey Thomas took Starship to a much higher level than the previous Jefferson incarnations. I don't know how anyone could not love this song? To me, it has almost the same importance as the Stones Sympathy With the Devil or My Generation by the Who. Am I the only who understands this? It received a Grammy Nomination for best song in 1986 for chrissakes.

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I have never met a female fan of Rush - and I mean never. I think they are a guy thing and more specifically I think they are a math guy thing.

Every engineer I have ever met just loves Rush. I have no idea why that correlation exists but anecdotally speaking, it seems pretty strong. Also, they all want to blow Neil Peart. It's a little bit weird but whatever.

Personally, I'm OK with them. I don't love them but I certainly don't dislike them either. My wife, on the other hand, she hates them as much as any band in the world. She just thinks they are pure trash and that is odd for her because she doesn't really hate too much of anything. Generally speaking, she is a frustratingly positive person. However, that woman absolutely HATES Rush.

It's pretty funny actually.

For me, the Rush song that I've always liked the most, is "Working Man." I really can't explain why but I just love that song and on the rare occasion when it comes on the radio station I am listening to, I turn that sucker up. That had made for some pretty funny/tense car rides with the Mrs. over the years.
My wife likes them.
Though, to your point, a few months ago Eddie Trunk was joking to Mike Portnoys son about the lack of female progressive rock fans.

For me, I never listened to Rush in high school in college. Only recently due to satellite radio have I listened to them. Some of their stuff is really good, and some of it is utter WTF.
 
The Who...don't hate em....but they set the standard for ridiculously numerous false "final farewell tours"...the reason?....They started doing them in 1984.....
They had their "final" tour in 1982, mainly because Pete Townshend didn't want to be in the band anymore(there's many many reasons for that) and Roger Daltery didn't like the drumming style of Keith Moon's replacement Kenney Jones. They then got guilted into playing at Live Aid by Bob Geldof and played a brief set in 1988 when they received a British music award.

They got offered a crazy amount of money to do the 1989 stadium tour and Townshend was pretty much on the wagon at that time too. Townshend has called that the "The Who on Ice" tour due to the massive backing band they had. They never really said that was going to be their final tour but Townshend hinted at it giving his hearing as the main reason. In that timeframe they recorded a song for one of Townshends solo albums and a cover of Saturday Nights Alright for Fighting for a Elton John tribute album.

All of their tours after that were never called a "final" or "farewell" tour but when I saw them play last weekend Townshend said this would likely be their last tour due to their age.

They're coming to Pittsburgh next week and if your a fan of them at all go see the show, for two 70 year olds they can still bring it.
 
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People love to get angry and knock the Hair Band era, say it's horrible music, and the R-n-R HOF is putting up a brick wall for that era, but the reality is:

1. They played their own instruments and wrote their own music (much more than most of today top artists can claim)
2. Many of their live shows still fill large concert venues 30 years after their last commercial hits (and out-sell many of current artists' tours)
3. They sold billions of albums and absolutely dominated the commercial music scene for the better part of a decade
4. Admit it or not, if you lived through the era, you can probably sing the lyrics of dozens of their songs.

You may not consider it "good music" based on your personal taste, but really what defines "good music"? If bringing joy to millions of fans for decades and motivating them to buy albums and attend concerts for decades, maybe it's time for people to admit the era as a huge "musical" success and give them some due credit?
 
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One thing about music is that it is strictly about taste... and no one is right or wrong.. but if you don't like Pearl Jam.. wow.. .just wow....
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And PJ isn't hipster music.. "Hipster" terminology is associated with millennials, who were between 0-10 when PJ debuted.
 
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