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OT: The ultimate hipster defined thread: Bands that are considered legendary, that you hate or...

Whoa. "We Built This City On Rock and Roll"? Sorry. I gotta call you out on this one. The delivery by Mickey Thomas took Starship to a much higher level than the previous Jefferson incarnations. I don't know how anyone could not love this song? To me, it has almost the same importance as the Stones Sympathy With the Devil or My Generation by the Who. Am I the only who understands this? It received a Grammy Nomination for best song in 1986 for chrissakes.

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I think you are the only one.....to me the song is roughly on par with this one....

 
Pearl Jam and Dave Matthews I loved.

Beatles, doors, Eagles sucked

No. Wrong. You can not like. I am not a big Beatles fan. But they hardly suck. Okay? That is the difference. You can not like something, that doesn't mean it sucks. You just don't like it. I mean some things suck. Jimmy Buffett sucks, but he makes people happy. Three Doors Down sucks. But the Beatles, Doors and Eagles surely don't "suck".
 
No. Wrong. You can not like. I am not a big Beatles fan. But they hardly suck. Okay? That is the difference. You can not like something, that doesn't mean it sucks. You just don't like it. I mean some things suck. Jimmy Buffett sucks, but he makes people happy. Three Doors Down sucks. But the Beatles, Doors and Eagles surely don't "suck".
The Beatles sucked from the go. Wusses.
 
Pearl Jam and Dave Matthews I loved.

Beatles, doors, Eagles sucked

If you were in high school in the mid-sixties, like I was, then the Beatles were absolutely amazing. When the Beatles' music hit the radio, we had never heard anything like them. They literally had a totally new sound. Their first songs were lyrically simple ("I want to hold your hand", "She loves you") but with totally catchy -- and different sounding -- music.

Then through too many hits to count, their lyrics and music kept evolving in complexity like no music performer we had ever seen - it was an amazing journey being a Beatles' fan back then as they released hit after hit...

Go Pitt.
 
The Beatles certainly did not suck....they blow away the Stones....truth.

The Eagles are just totally blandness to me....don't suck but...zzzzz

Nickleback...now there's a band that sucks....Metallica would have been better with a better drummer...Lars is just bad....to think he came up in the same time period as Charlie Bennante or Dave Lombardo is kind of unbelievable....those two eat his lunch....

I was disappointed MTV and VH1 spent so little time on David Bowie with his passing...he propped up MTV every bit as much as Michael Jackson back in the early 80s....and honestly that period ( Let's Dance) is easily my least favorite Bowie era....when MJ died all you saw was 3 weeks of stuff commemorating him....
 
The Beatles certainly did not suck....they blow away the Stones....truth.

The Eagles are just totally blandness to me....don't suck but...zzzzz

Nickleback...now there's a band that sucks....Metallica would have been better with a better drummer...Lars is just bad....to think he came up in the same time period as Charlie Bennante or Dave Lombardo is kind of unbelievable....those two eat his lunch....

I was disappointed MTV and VH1 spent so little time on David Bowie with his passing...he propped up MTV every bit as much as Michael Jackson back in the early 80s....and honestly that period ( Let's Dance) is easily my least favorite Bowie era....when MJ died all you saw was 3 weeks of stuff commemorating him....

I'll always recognize the Beatles cultural impact, but their music is so bland and terrible. There's only two or three Beatles songs I'll actual listen to if they come on the radio. The rest get an immediate channel switch.

I'll add Bowie to my list of popular artists I think are wretched. I was completely floored at the outpouring of grief over his passing. I had no idea his music was THAT popular.
 
No. Wrong. You can not like. I am not a big Beatles fan. But they hardly suck. Okay? That is the difference. You can not like something, that doesn't mean it sucks. You just don't like it. I mean some things suck. Jimmy Buffett sucks, but he makes people happy. Three Doors Down sucks. But the Beatles, Doors and Eagles surely don't "suck".


They suck to me. The whole point of this thread. You have to get over yourself once and awhile.
 
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No. Wrong. You can not like. I am not a big Beatles fan. But they hardly suck. Okay? That is the difference. You can not like something, that doesn't mean it sucks. You just don't like it. I mean some things suck. Jimmy Buffett sucks, but he makes people happy. Three Doors Down sucks. But the Beatles, Doors and Eagles surely don't "suck".

All three of those bands suck. They're terrible. I will not willingly listen to one of their songs from start to finish. The Beatles had a profound impact on music and 60s culture. But their music is bad. No good. Terrible.
 
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All three of those bands suck. They're terrible. I will not willingly listen to one of their songs from start to finish. The Beatles had a profound impact on music and 60s culture. But their music is bad. No good. Terrible.


Exactly, I didn't say they didn't impact the music industry or were pioneers or whatever. I think there music sounds like shit, is that better? I'm not right you're not wrong we have different opinions.
 
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All three of those bands suck. They're terrible. I will not willingly listen to one of their songs from start to finish. The Beatles had a profound impact on music and 60s culture. But their music is bad. No good. Terrible.
Out of curiosity, how old are you?

I get the purpose of the thread, but I really don't think if a band is before your time you should try to discuss them.

I'm not a Beatles fan either, but being that their stuff came out 10 years before I was born, I think my opinion is irrelevant on them

Same thing kind of applies in reverse with people my age and newer bands.
 
All three of those bands suck. They're terrible. I will not willingly listen to one of their songs from start to finish. The Beatles had a profound impact on music and 60s culture. But their music is bad. No good. Terrible.

Come on. Don't be ridiculous.
 
I'll always recognize the Beatles cultural impact, but their music is so bland and terrible. There's only two or three Beatles songs I'll actual listen to if they come on the radio. The rest get an immediate channel switch.

I'll add Bowie to my list of popular artists I think are wretched. I was completely floored at the outpouring of grief over his passing. I had no idea his music was THAT popular.
I'll go ahead and ask how much Bowie do you actually know?...I mean his influence on an assortment of artists speaks for itself...I'll add how can anyone have a profound effect on music and culture and "suck"...like say the Beatles?
 
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Out of curiosity, how old are you?

I get the purpose of the thread, but I really don't think if a band is before your time you should try to discuss them.

I'm not a Beatles fan either, but being that their stuff came out 10 years before I was born, I think my opinion is irrelevant on them

Same thing kind of applies in reverse with people my age and newer bands.

Absolute nonsense. My favorite band of all time is Zeppelin. I wasn't alive for them either, but that doesn't affect my ability to listen and interpret their music. Just like not being alive for the Beatles doesn't mean I can't assess their music based on my own tastes and preferences. By your metric, absolutely no living human being can offer any sort of critique on a symphonic performance, since none of us were alive when Brahms or Beethoven wrote their symphonies.

Come on. Don't be ridiculous.

Why? I don't like their music. I think it's bad. You have no rebuttal beyond "Oh they don't suck."
 
I'll go ahead and ask how much Bowie do you actually know?...I mean his influence on an assortment of artists speaks for itself...

I'll admit not a lot. I didn't like what I heard so I never really investigated his catalogue. I definitely admit that's part of why I was so surprised.
 
Don't get so riled up guys. It's just people's opinions. The whole point of this thread was for people to pick very popular/legendary bands and piss all over them. Why anyone would get pissy about that is anyone's guess? I certainly don't agree with some/many of the choices but neither do they offend me. It's all good.
 
I'll admit not a lot. I didn't like what I heard so I never really investigated his catalogue. I definitely admit that's part of why I was so surprised.
Get listening..;) I felt like you when I was much younger but there's a ton of gold to mine there...
 
Don't get so riled up guys. It's just people's opinions. The whole point of this thread was for people to pick very popular/legendary bands and piss all over them. Why anyone would get pissy about that is anyone's guess?


Amen. Seems silly. Like entrapment or some shit, lol
 
Get listening..;) I felt like you when I was much younger but there's a ton of gold to mine there...

I know, I know. It's on my to do list. Bowie is high on the list of a friend of mine who has a music opinion I highly respect, so I'm willing to give it a listen with a fresh set of ears.

Amen. Seems silly. Like entrapment or some shit, lol

Yeah, the whole thread is meant to let people piss on the "greats." It seems counterintuitive to then come in and say that opinion is objectively wrong.
 
Elvis anyone....ok I won't say he sucked but I never felt moved to listen either...
 
Elvis anyone....ok I won't say he sucked but I never felt moved to listen either...
I never quite get the love affair of Rod Stewart among the older generation either.. You say that name in a room full of women over 50, there wont be a dry seat in the place and I just don't see it.. Couple good songs but he is far from legendary imo..
 
Absolute nonsense. My favorite band of all time is Zeppelin. I wasn't alive for them either, but that doesn't affect my ability to listen and interpret their music. Just like not being alive for the Beatles doesn't mean I can't assess their music based on my own tastes and preferences. By your metric, absolutely no living human being can offer any sort of critique on a symphonic performance, since none of us were alive when Brahms or Beethoven wrote their symphonies.."
Notice you didn't answer the question.
Not nonsense. People from one generation tend not to follow the music of other generations.
A 60 year old opinion on the Beatles means more to me than that of a 40 year old or 20 year old.
 
I like Rap, but I find Jay Z to be good but severely overrated.

The College Dropout and Late Registration were good, but other than that Kanye is wretched and him being famous along with his wife and her family shows me that the end of our society is near.

Neither guy comes close to Pac, Talib Kweli, Eminem, Biggie, insert any great rapper ever....
 
One thing about music is that it is strictly about taste... and no one is right or wrong.. but if you don't like Pearl Jam.. wow.. .just wow....
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And PJ isn't hipster music.. "Hipster" terminology is associated with millennials, who were between 0-10 when PJ debuted.
Pearl jam just bores me... Mostly dreck since vs.

Smashing pumpkins in style and progression are far superior.
Maybe the three best CDs in a row by a band?
 
The pumpkins are my favorite band of all time but my wife loathes them with a passion.

To the original topic, I hate all jazz music and just don't get the appeal.
 
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Not nonsense. People from one generation tend not to follow the music of other generations.
A 60 year old opinion on the Beatles means more to me than that of a 40 year old or 20 year old.

I answered the question enough to say I wasn't alive for the Beatles. That doesn't make it a good question. You are more than welcome to only care about opinions of people who lived through the music. And I'm perfectly capable of saying that is one of the stupidest opinions I've ever read on this forum. My age doesn't stop me from listening to a whole host of music from the 60s and 70s and drawing conclusions based on my own tastes.

I think the Beatles suck. Let's move on.
 
People love to get angry and knock the Hair Band era, say it's horrible music, and the R-n-R HOF is putting up a brick wall for that era, but the reality is:

1. They played their own instruments and wrote their own music (much more than most of today top artists can claim)
2. Many of their live shows still fill large concert venues 30 years after their last commercial hits (and out-sell many of current artists' tours)
3. They sold billions of albums and absolutely dominated the commercial music scene for the better part of a decade
4. Admit it or not, if you lived through the era, you can probably sing the lyrics of dozens of their songs.

You may not consider it "good music" based on your personal taste, but really what defines "good music"? If bringing joy to millions of fans for decades and motivating them to buy albums and attend concerts for decades, maybe it's time for people to admit the era as a huge "musical" success and give them some due credit?

Well said. Music is art and art is inherently subjective. I agree, if it brings joy to that many people then good on it. At the end of the day that's what this is all about, right? We just need something that gives us an escape – like movies and sports and books and paintings, etc.



Beauty truly is in the eye – or in this case the ear – of the beholder.

That said, as someone who grew up during that era, I never got the hair band cock rock at the time and I still don't get it in retrospect either. In fact, to me, it feels more and more ridiculous with each passing year. It just doesn't move me at all. I find it soulless and plastic and empty and vapid. Basically, from my vantage point, it's just kind of boring and lame.



In fact, I was probably a little bit older before I realized I that I even liked music. I always thought I didn't care for music. As it turns out, I just didn't care for that garbage (my view). Once I got introduced to other music – mostly British music – that was a game changer for me. It just seemed so much more sophisticated and advanced than the garbage that was constantly being shoved down our throats.



The two primary producers of musical talent in Western civilization are great Britain and United States. Together they are responsible for pretty much every great rock band to ever come down the road. Canada has chipped in a few here and there and so have France, Germany and others. Still, it's mostly the UK and the US.

I can't think of any period in rock history in which there was a greater imbalance between quality music being produced in Great Britain over the United States in the 1980s. Frankly, it was an embarrassment and a permanent stain on our record.

Just my opinion though.
 
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I like Rap, but I find Jay Z to be good but severely overrated.

The College Dropout and Late Registration were good, but other than that Kanye is wretched and him being famous along with his wife and her family shows me that the end of our society is near.

Neither guy comes close to Pac, Talib Kweli, Eminem, Biggie, insert any great rapper ever....

I think Kanye is the single most important musician of the 21st century. No lie. Kendrick is catching up though. I love College Dropout, but My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is far and away his best album, It's absolutely phenomenal. Gorgeous could easily be one of my 5 or 10 favorite jams.

 
I think Kanye is the single most important musician of the 21st century. No lie. Kendrick is catching up though. I love College Dropout, but My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is far and away his best album, It's absolutely phenomenal. Gorgeous could easily be one of my 5 or 10 favorite jams.



Beautiful producer. Average rapper. Kendrick Lamar is 80000 times better imo
But it's just an opinion.
 
I won't call Kanye a musician until he starts playing these things called musical instruments....that tune is part of my problem stuff like his...musically it goes nowhere...same repetitive riff taken to moronic levels ( I have the same problem with much punk rock)...then in modern pop you have singers literally singing one pitch over and over...think of Lady Gaga....poker face is like 3 or 4 pitches with many repetitive single or double note phrases.....and none of this stuff grooves at all because its programmed machinery......but that's another topic....
 
Kanye West is the most important artist of this century?

Wow! That is an extremely strong and bold claim –especially for a century that's not yet 20 years-old.

However, I am open-minded. So tell me, what makes Kanye West's work not just better but also more important than everyone else's work?

I guess what I'm saying is I'm very intrigued by your claim and I'm excited to learn more about the guy. Maybe there's a treasure trove that I need to learn about?

Or does that statement simply mean that he's your favorite artist of the past 15 years?
 
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Kanye West is the most important artist of this century?

Wow! That is an extremely strong and bold claim –especially for a century that's not yet 20 years-old.

However, I am open-minded. So tell me, what makes Kanye West's work not just better but also more important than everyone else's work?

I guess what I'm saying is I'm very intrigued by your claim and I'm excited to learn more about the guy. Maybe there's a treasure trove that I need to learn about?

Or does that statement simply mean that he's your favorite artist of the past 15 years?
He's some info on the " great" soon to be a pennyless bum Kanye West.

Is Kanye West Teetering on Brink of Bankruptcy? Owes $53 ...
www.theimproper.com/132322/kanye-west-teetering-brink-bankruptcy...

The $ 53 has million after it!!!! That's a bit more than street pocket change!
 
Well, you can be a great artist without necessarily being a great businessman. History is littered with those. I don't really hold that against the guy.

I am just intrigued by the most important part in Ski's claim. That's really an extra level of accolade and I'm interested to hear why? I hope it's not just empty millennial hyperbole because Kanye really does intrigue me.

However, I go back-and-forth on the guy from afar. Sometimes I think he may be the real thing and worth investing my time in. Other times I fear he may be just a really good imposter and kind of the musical equivalent of Andy Warhol, who basically became famous by repainting labels and photos and by hanging out with celebrities.
 
Absolute nonsense. My favorite band of all time is Zeppelin. I wasn't alive for them either, but that doesn't affect my ability to listen and interpret their music. Just like not being alive for the Beatles doesn't mean I can't assess their music based on my own tastes and preferences. By your metric, absolutely no living human being can offer any sort of critique on a symphonic performance, since none of us were alive when Brahms or Beethoven wrote their symphonies.



Why? I don't like their music. I think it's bad. You have no rebuttal beyond "Oh they don't suck."

No. I don't. I mean I don't particularly like them either, but I recognize their impact, the talent of the 4 guys as evident by their post Beatles work, their metamorphous from a 3 chord pop band to the psychedelic turn of the late 60's (which I liked more of their music). So yeah, they don't suck. YOU might not like them, I might not like them, but they don't suck. I know because I know.
 
I think Kanye is the single most important musician of the 21st century. No lie. Kendrick is catching up though. I love College Dropout, but My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is far and away his best album, It's absolutely phenomenal. Gorgeous could easily be one of my 5 or 10 favorite jams.


I should have known with your infatuation of the NBA.
 
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I'll go ahead and ask how much Bowie do you actually know?...I mean his influence on an assortment of artists speaks for itself...I'll add how can anyone have a profound effect on music and culture and "suck"...like say the Beatles?
Yes......because MOST of pop culture is lowest common denominator crapola. The Beatles were essentially 4 Biebers.
 
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