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OT: This is shocking, Trump and Vance team up to attack Ukraine Pres Zelenskyy!!

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Hahaha that isn't true. He was there briefly in the Oval Office...he didn't just "try to get in"...he was in there.

While AP and Reuters weren't allowed smh

And he was removed. He wasn’t on the approved list and he was removed from the grounds. Thanks for the proof source
 
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Here is how it is going in Ukraine. And that was before zelensky put a nail in their coffin with his disgraceful behavior yesterday.


 
Russian reporter tried to get in and was removed from the grounds.

And he was removed. He wasn’t on the approved list and he was removed from the grounds. Thanks for the proof source

You see how this was a very clear moving of the goalposts right?

He didn't TRY to get in, he GOT in. He obviously was permitted entry, the White House is extremely hard to get into. And there was probably some mass panic by staffers like, "holy shit who let the Russian guy in? Who ****ed up? This is a horrible look get his ass out!"

Someone gave Russian state media credentials and only realized it was a horrific **** up after he got in, not before.
 
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Of all their prospective candidates in 2028, Shapiro is the only one who appears normal. But as of today he’s at like 3% within their party. Would Dems elect a Jew? Hard to imagine they would in a national election.
? Bernie Sanders is the most popular Democratic politician in the United States, both among Democratic voters and the general public.
 
Come on chagg. He doesn’t even practice Judaism and is fairly pro Palestine. He is Jewish in name only.

But if Dems want to run him to lose to Vance I would be in favor.
He’s not running because he’s like 90 years old. They certainly need to find someone to run against Vance, who appears to be one of the most dangerous political figures in my lifetime (something I never said about Trump, fwiw).

And…I’m not even gonna touch the whole “if Jewish person is fairly pro Palestine then that means they’re Jewish in name only” deal.
 
He’s not running because he’s like 90 years old. They certainly need to find someone to run against Vance, who appears to be one of the most dangerous political figures in my lifetime (something I never said about Trump, fwiw).

And…I’m not even gonna touch the whole “if Jewish person is fairly pro Palestine then that means they’re Jewish in name only” deal.
Hes Jewish name only because he doesn’t practice Judaism.

I love the Vance is dangerous though. I guess you have to start demonizing him as he is probably the guy for 28.
 
He’s not running because he’s like 90 years old. They certainly need to find someone to run against Vance, who appears to be one of the most dangerous political figures in my lifetime (something I never said about Trump, fwiw).

And…I’m not even gonna touch the whole “if Jewish person is fairly pro Palestine then that means they’re Jewish in name only” deal.
Didn't stop them from running biden.
 
You see how this was a very clear moving of the goalposts right?

He didn't TRY to get in, he GOT in. He obviously was permitted entry, the White House is extremely hard to get into. And there was probably some mass panic by staffers like, "holy shit who let the Russian guy in? Who ****ed up? This is a horrible look get his ass out!"

Someone gave Russian state media credentials and only realized it was a horrific **** up after he got in, not before.
You guys are arguing nuances. Who cares? The guy was ushered out and wasn’t welcome. That’s it.
 
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It’s funny they are still doing the Russian thing. You would think they learned their lesson the first time with collusion gate.
This is exactly it. It cost them. We are sitting here today with trump because America wasn’t buying their BS rhetoric anymore. So when I hear BurghGuy make all these Russian/facist/nazi comments, I just chuckle . But they have nothing else. They are rutterless.
 
This is exactly it. It cost them. We are sitting here today with trump because America wasn’t buying their BS rhetoric anymore. So when I hear BurghGuy make all these Russian/facist/nazi comments, I just chuckle . But they have nothing else. They are rutterless.
Yeah hilarious. Trump is the first fascist dictator in history trying to reduce the size of government!
 
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Thank goodness Kamala is a moron. No way she losses Pa with Shapiro and maybe he is far more helpful in Michigan and Wisconsin. The knucklehead from Minny was a joke. Trump is doing the deal with Putin and those in Ukraine and the phony NATO Biden lovers are praying Trump ends this nonsense. Trump is right. If he tells Europe it is your battle, let's see how willing they are to defend democracy.
 
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From the Rules of our new Overlords

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If I recall correctly, that was Chris’s rule pinned at the top was as well. He just superseded it 4 years ago without pulling the rule from the top of the page.

Oh well…

Just when I was starting to ignore all the political stuff round here!!
 
If I recall correctly, that was Chris’s rule pinned at the top was as well. He just superseded it 4 years ago without pulling the rule from the top of the page.

Oh well…

Just when I was starting to ignore all the political stuff round here!!
Ehh it shouldn't be removed, it's marked OT...and it's the most important time in our history, on the verge of WW3. Plus it gives the site clicks, so not sure why he used to remove it.
 
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Ehh it shouldn't be removed, it's marked OT...and it's the most important time in our history, on the verge of WW3. Plus it gives the site clicks, so not sure why he used to remove it.
When the board became a lame duck board yesterday, the political stuff ramped up rather quickly. There is a thirst for such discussion. Weird though that there was a good thread on the free board and Chris still deleted it.
 
You guys need to relax. Zalenskyy is not some savior hero. He's culpable. Look at the tweet, and the thread supporting it. This is CNN. Everything Trump does is not bad/evil. And it should be, at least for us, Americans, America first. You don't have to like him, I don't like him. But I like him alot more than I did 5 years ago after we have seen the feckless last 4 years.

 
Ehh it shouldn't be removed, it's marked OT...and it's the most important time in our history, on the verge of WW3. Plus it gives the site clicks, so not sure why he used to remove it.
I don’t know how I feel. I know others are clamoring for a locker room return…but I’m unproductive enough. Not sure I need another board to rot within. Lol.
 
When the board became a lame duck board yesterday, the political stuff ramped up rather quickly. There is a thirst for such discussion. Weird though that there was a good thread on the free board and Chris still deleted it.
Well especially.........it is simple math.
1a. There is alot of stuff going on in the world and our country. It's scary and uncertain.
1b. There is hardly anything of note or discussion going on with Pitt sports.

1+1=2. More OT political posts. It ain't that hard.
 
You guys need to relax. Zalenskyy is not some savior hero. He's culpable. Look at the tweet, and the thread supporting it. This is CNN. Everything Trump does is not bad/evil. And it should be, at least for us, Americans, America first. You don't have to like him, I don't like him. But I like him alot more than I did 5 years ago after we have seen the feckless last 4 years.

This is 100%. Those who see it differently are telling on themselves for being nothing more than a 100% partisan cheerleader.
 
You guys need to relax. Zalenskyy is not some savior hero. He's culpable. Look at the tweet, and the thread supporting it. This is CNN. Everything Trump does is not bad/evil. And it should be, at least for us, Americans, America first. You don't have to like him, I don't like him. But I like him alot more than I did 5 years ago after we have seen the feckless last 4 years.

Scott Jennings is the only person on CNN who people tune in for. And when he’s on that panel show, he makes all those other people look like nitwits. CNN is going to run out of reputable people at some point to sit on that panel. Did you see him destroy that guy this week who looked like Humpty Hump from Digital Underground? I was embarrassed for that guy. Apparently he’s some big lib influencer. But he was exposed for being dumb as rocks.
 
Scott Jennings is the only person on CNN who people tune in for. And when he’s on that panel show, he makes all those other people look like nitwits. CNN is going to run out of reputable people at some point to sit on that panel. Did you see him destroy that guy this week who looked like Humpty Hump from Digital Underground? I was embarrassed for that guy. Apparently he’s some big lib influencer. But he was exposed for being dumb as rocks.
 
You guys need to relax. Zalenskyy is not some savior hero. He's culpable. Look at the tweet, and the thread supporting it. This is CNN. Everything Trump does is not bad/evil. And it should be, at least for us, Americans, America first. You don't have to like him, I don't like him. But I like him alot more than I did 5 years ago after we have seen the feckless last 4 years.

Here’s some added dialogue. This is why the Ukrainian ambassador had her head in her hands in the Oval Office. She knows how Zalensky was briefed and prepped for this. And he messed it all up.

 
Here’s some added dialogue. This is why the Ukrainian ambassador had her head in her hands in the Oval Office. She knows how Zalensky was briefed and prepped for this. And he messed it all up.

Totally disagree with this and the video. The Mob Hit was intentional to neuter him in front of the cameras.
 
Funny how MAGA saw yesterday the total opposite of what the rest of the world saw

 
Totally disagree with this and the video. The Mob Hit was intentional to neuter him in front of the cameras.
The deal was done. As I asked earlier in the thread, why did Zalenskyy insist on this?

I can certainly see why there is debate though. You see it one way, others do not. I guess it’s like a football game and a team is guilty of pass interference. One fanbase sees it one way and the other fanbase sees it another way…and they are both looking at the same camera angles and tv footage and yet see two different things.

 
Funny how MAGA saw yesterday the total opposite of what the rest of the world saw

You literally just watched a video where a prominent liberal talking head saw Zalenskyy in the wrong. It’s not just MAGA.

And I’ll ask you for maybe a 4th time in this thread. What’s your plan? What’s Europes plan? This war is on their doorstep. Why’s their solution?
 
When the Soviet Union broke up the Ukraine had the third most nuclear weapons in the world. Russia and the United States promised to protect the Ukraine if they gave them up. Russia betrayed the Ukraine and now Trump has too.
 
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