Dropped 3 spots from last week but 6 big 10 and pac 12 teams were inserted now that they are eligible.
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Dropped 3 spots from last week but 6 big 10 and pac 12 teams were inserted now that they are eligible.
Yet, Notre Dame moved up and didn't play.
Well Oklahoma and Texas are the two teams that were ahead of them that the moved over. Do you not agree that Notre Dame should be ranked higher than both of those two after this past weekend?
But go ahead... support the Domers.
Or, you know, just common sense.
Although I get that around here sometimes that's not so common.
Come on. If Pitt and ND were reversed, you know Pitt wouldn't move up 3 spots without playing.
Just so we are on the same page here, you are complaining that Notre Dame moved ahead of Texas in the poll, and you are also complaining that Texas was ranked ahead of Notre Dame in the first place.
No. I'm making fun of the polling. Why was Texas ranked so high? They were 8-5 last year. Why was LSU ranked so high when they returned 2 starters.
So to prove that you aren't complaining about Notre Dame being ranked behind Texas and LSU in the first place you complain about Notre Dame being ranked behind Texas and LSU in the first place.
Round and round we go, and where it stops, certainly no one with any sanity knows.
ND is consistently overrated. Want to dispute that please go ahead.
Ok, I will take a stab at it, since you asked:
ND is 35-6 since 2016. It has gone 25-3 since 2017. It has had double digit win totals in 4 of the last 5 years.
How many other programs, overrated, underrated or not rated, has that type of record?
(BTW, not a single FCS game opponent in that total)
It has won 8 in a row, tied for first in the nation in that category.
It has won 20 home games in a row, 2nd highest streak in ND history.
It is 15-1 against ACC teams the past three plus regular seasons.
(How many other programs except Clemson has that type of ACC record ?)
It was in the College Football Playoffs in 2018 and it made the BCS National Championship game in 2012.
It has had two undefeated regular seasons in the past 8 years.
(How many other programs have done that in that time frame?)
ND is 94-37 under Brian Kelly.
(8 of those losses came in an outlier 2016, almost a quarter of ND's loss total in 11 years)
That doesn't seem like an "overrated" program to me, at least since 2012.
(I suspect that if its name wasn't "Notre Dame" but some other program, you just might agree. Just a guess, though)
P.S. Ohio State is ranked #6 and has yet to play a single game, but hey, lets complain about ND.
You realize that pitt has been ranked in the top 25 4 out of the last 5 seasons at some point. It hasn't been years since they were ranked.Should Pitt really be a top 20 team at this point in the season all things related to covid aside? They beat teams they should have beaten and there is a giant ? still surrounding the team’s offensive abilities. If they beat NC State and BC they’ll be top 20 heading into the identity game against Miami....who will by the way be coming off their Clemson game. They have 2 weeks to figure out how to run an offense. Let’s be thankful they are in the top 25 for the first time in years.
You are doing some cherry pickin there. The had a couple of good years, but still didn't do well against ranked teams.
And oh yeah.... beginning vs. end of year. Like I said... CONSISTENTLY overrated. In fact, they are the MOST overrated program statistically.
Its not worth it with him.I "cherry picked" nothing. I merely posted won/loss records from the Kelly years.
Those numbers are true and correct, no spin or opinion.
My guess is that if Pitt had anywhere near the numbers ND has put up in the past few seasons, you would be adamant that Pitt was a dominate program deserving of praise and high ranking.
Take care.
College football is stupid, there's never been a true champion. outside years when only one unbeaten was left and was the winner, so many years are illegitimate where pedigrees or optometrists (eye tests) handed out the trophyCome on. If Pitt and ND were reversed, you know Pitt wouldn't move up 3 spots without playing.
Are those plyers from 2016 still on the team? Previous seasons should not be a consideration everOk, I will take a stab at it, since you asked:
ND is 35-6 since 2016. It has gone 25-3 since 2017. It has had double digit win totals in 4 of the last 5 years.
How many other programs, overrated, underrated or not rated, has that type of record?
(BTW, not a single FCS game opponent in that total)
It has won 8 in a row, tied for first in the nation in that category.
It has won 20 home games in a row, 2nd highest streak in ND history.
It is 15-1 against ACC teams the past three plus regular seasons.
(How many other programs except Clemson has that type of ACC record ?)
It was in the College Football Playoffs in 2018 and it made the BCS National Championship game in 2012.
It has had two undefeated regular seasons in the past 8 years.
(How many other programs have done that in that time frame?)
ND is 94-37 under Brian Kelly.
(8 of those losses came in an outlier 2016, almost a quarter of ND's loss total in 11 years)
That doesn't seem like an "overrated" program to me, at least since 2012.
(I suspect that if its name wasn't "Notre Dame" but some other program, you just might agree. Just a guess, though)
P.S. Ohio State is ranked #6 and has yet to play a single game, but hey, lets complain about ND.
Are those plyers from 2016 still on the team? Previous seasons should not be a consideration ever
You realize that pitt has been ranked in the top 25 4 out of the last 5 seasons at some point. It hasn't been years since they were ranked.
anyone have the link to Styx's "too much time on my hands"?Ok, I will take a stab at it, since you asked:
ND is 35-6 since 2016. It has gone 25-3 since 2017. It has had double digit win totals in 4 of the last 5 years.
How many other programs, overrated, underrated or not rated, has that type of record?
(BTW, not a single FCS game opponent in that total)
It has won 8 in a row, tied for first in the nation in that category.
It has won 20 home games in a row, 2nd highest streak in ND history.
It is 15-1 against ACC teams the past three plus regular seasons.
(How many other programs except Clemson has that type of ACC record ?)
It was in the College Football Playoffs in 2018 and it made the BCS National Championship game in 2012.
It has had two undefeated regular seasons in the past 8 years.
(How many other programs have done that in that time frame?)
ND is 94-37 under Brian Kelly.
(8 of those losses came in an outlier 2016, almost a quarter of ND's loss total in 11 years)
That doesn't seem like an "overrated" program to me, at least since 2012.
(I suspect that if its name wasn't "Notre Dame" but some other program, you just might agree. Just a guess, though)
P.S. Ohio State is ranked #6 and has yet to play a single game, but hey, lets complain about ND.
The last decade? What does 2013 or 2017 have to do with RIGHT NOW? None of that should be considered, Teams shouldn't get credit for anything that happened before week 1 of the current season. Optometrist "writers" doing "eye tests" and saying "well they haven't won a top 20 spot in our POPULARITY POLLS for a decade" shouldn't be considered. just what happened THIS YEAR.My apologies. I should be more accurate with my words. In 2018 they were ranked once in week 13 at #24. In 2016 twice week 14(24) and 15(22). In 2015 twice week 7(25) and 8(23). Prior to that 2010.
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With that overall meager presence in the top 25 and the fact that they have not been in the top 20, in season, in the last decade, I can see why the AP writers and coaches don’t have them much higher than 24 or 25. It’s an image problem that is only fixed by winning with regularity and beating formidable opponents. Let’s hope this season reestablishes the Program.
Notre Dame pays him by the hour to read every post on the Pitt board, and then to post propaganda spin anytime Norte Dame is mentioned.anyone have the link to Styx's "too much time on my hands"?
Notre Dame pays him by the hour to read every post on the Pitt board, and then to post propaganda spin anytime Norte Dame is mentioned.
The only difference is that WVU only pays .03 cents an hour.LOL.... him and the WVU dude from Columbus.
21guns is the UPS designated propagandist.LOL.... him and the WVU dude from Columbus.
Notre Dame pays him by the hour to read every post on the Pitt board, and then to post propaganda spin anytime Norte Dame is mentioned.
I stand corrected, then. But, honestly, I don't know if knowing that you do it for free puts you in a better or worse light.I wish. No, I grew up near Uniontown so I check out the Pitt board.
After all, we are no "conference brethren" and all this year.
Take care.
The last decade? What does 2013 or 2017 have to do with RIGHT NOW? None of that should be considered, Teams shouldn't get credit for anything that happened before week 1 of the current season. Optometrist "writers" doing "eye tests" and saying "well they haven't won a top 20 spot in our POPULARITY POLLS for a decade" shouldn't be considered. just what happened THIS YEAR.
I would expect 18-20 ranking heading into Miami.
That's why college football is stupid, and there's almost never a true champion.The season is 4 weeks in and they have played 1 semi-relevant team. Polls at this point are based on program reputation. That’s the reality. The AP and Coach’s poll have been like that for years...hence the development of the computer algorithm, BCS and playoff. We aren’t going to change the system. The answer is simple. Just win.
I am a Pitt alum twice over. I love Pitt football. I have followed the program for 40 years. Sometimes we need a reality check. This is one of those times. So until we go 5-0, don’t hold your breath on a top 20 ranking. Even if blessed with a 6-0 record, which includes a Miami win, there is a chance we won’t be in the top 15 pending the outcome of Clemson-Miami the week prior.
But I just watch it as if Pitt is the only team on the planet, and never look at the bigger picture, I don't watch the playoffs, I never watch any SEC or B1G or B12 games, maybe some ACC because it's Pitt's league, and if I watch any games other than Pitt it's usually Army, Navy, G5 or anything weird, never the mainstream P5 and especially never ND. I watch college football as if there is no other league other than ACC, and never watch entire games unless Pitt is in the game.And yet here you are.
That's hilarious Raleigh!The only difference is that WVU only pays .03 cents an hour.
But I just watch it as if Pitt is the only team on the planet, and never look at the bigger picture, I don't watch the playoffs, I never watch any SEC or B1G or B12 games, maybe some ACC because it's Pitt's league, and if I watch any games other than Pitt it's usually Army, Navy, G5 or anything weird, never the mainstream P5 and especially never ND. I watch college football as if there is no other league other than ACC, and never watch entire games unless Pitt is in the game.