Why would anyone assume he was gone when he never announced anything though? Plus you have to assume that the level of interest in QBs is at least in part determined by what the staff knows from talking to him. I don’t doubt that a Trevor Lawrence type would not flinch at our other QBs, but if that’s what you’re talking about you probably need to reign in your expectations.
A big problem is that even the ones that are highly regarded in high school aren’t staying home. Besides those two mentioned you have Consentino, Terry, Paul Jones, Morelli, and Kevin McCabe. All 4-stars (I believe) and all from west of Harrisburg, none of them went to Pitt. Out of the 8 4-star Western PA QBs in the last 20 years, Pitt landed zero of them.
All this Marion hype is more than a little crazy. If you ask me, he is showing to be less of a recruiter than Beatty.
This is true. Bit a couple of things, for one, Consentino never even played QB in HS. So..... But again, I am talking what QB's even played at a P5 level, let alone played well and were either good college players (like Pryor) or NFL prospects. I think Jurkovec is going to be one, and honestly if it wasn't for Pickett, he would have transferred from ND to Pitt.
I thought you were being sarcastic in your earlier post when you said Jurkovec would have come to Pitt from ND if it weren’t for Kenny.
Pretty much what was said and I heard. He didn't hate Pitt, he was enamored with playing at ND.
I'm not going to pretend to have in-depth knowledge of his high school career, but Cosentino threw for 500+ yards in his Junior season and and 770 yards in his senior season. His highlight reel seemed exclusivley him under center or int he shotgun. Apparently it was good enough to get named to the Big 33 as a QB and ranked as the top 15 Pro-Style QB in the country.
You’re closer to the source than I.
I think Pitt is doing okay at QB. The previous staff landed Savage. This one brought in Peterman & Browne. Max didn't work out, but Pickett has been solid. It's way too soon to assume the others on the roster won't be solid.
They knew there was the chance of another year because of Covid. And yes, Pickett returning was “scaring off” any transfer. That wouldn’t affect high school kids, but I honestly don’t know how much the staff was recruiting any high school kids because they had 4 scholarship QBs they like and then they knew they had Pickett on a Covid year. I get your concern on QB recruiting but you are probably going to have to take a Xanax and wait until after this year.
Possibly. So many variables go into play at the QB position that make it very hard to decipher how they will translate to the college game.
There’s only 1 QB you listed who was deserving of a low 4-star ranking, and that was Morelli. He had a good arm, but was a box of rocks. Antony would have greatly benefited from Walt as his coach. Cosentino was a better punter than QB, Jones couldn’t hit the side of a barn from 2 feet away, McCabe can be filed under the Pat Bostick file, and who is Terry? I’ll give you another name - Chandler Kincaide. He was rated as a 5-star in 9th grade and then 4-star in 10th grade. He verbally committed to Fraud Graham when he was here. He completely fell off the map. There was a period of time when people were obsessed with western PA being the “cradle of QB’s” and overreaching big-time.
I am not going to mention his name and HS to protect the innocent. But because of the past success, kids here who played QB and were 6'3" or taller were automatically projected as the next one. I remember Street and Smith's preseason HS All American lists, under Honorable Mention they listed a QB from my HS who never even started. They figured, "well he's tall, he can throw, he's from Western PA, he must be good." He wasn't.
What difference does it make how he got to Pitt? Beville is a talented QB with a good skill set.
Some of it is bad timing. Rod Rutherford and Tyler Palko were 4-star recruits who did well at Pitt. You aren’t going to turn either one down to bring in Bruce Gradkowski who happened to be a good college QB as well. Tony Zimmerman was a stud QB coming out of PT and a big-time get. Marc Bulger was hurt and didn’t even become a full-time starter until his Sr. You aren’t going to tell Zimmerman we don’t want you and then roll the dice on a guy who was unknown at the time.
You are right. Zimmerman though was the perfect example of "Western Pa kid, tall, good passing numbers, he got to be a top prospect, right?" Wrong.
Here's the thing, though. The '22 class has only 21 4/5 star QBs for 65 P5 schools and another 60+ G5 and independents. For the most part, they all committed to local schools or big national brands. Pitt didn't fit either of those categories and it is unreasonable to expect Pitt to be the exception. Pitt may break through occasionally but they are obviously better suited to target 3 star QBs.
Agreed that it doesn’t matter. People said Pitt was lucky Blair’s knees were bad. Or they got lucky getting Steven Adams because of a Dixon connection. Who cares. And sometimes that’s the way it works.
If you're looking at it from a recruiting standpoint, based on stars alone, I think it's fair to say we do breakthrough occasionally. Bostick was a 4 star. Savage, Voytik, Peterman and Beville all had 4 stars, with Browne a 5-star. Going back 20 years, Palko was also a 4-star.
Beville was a breakthrough - a 4-star from SC. Chad Voytik was a breakthrough - a 4-star from TN.
