Mintz derangement syndrome. He was very good against us. The team wasn’t. They should suck again this year
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They may, indeed. We will have one of the better backcourts in the conference with Mintz and Starling. Losing Edwards cost us.
7 of 17 shooting with the refs bailing him out with weak flops in game 1. It was more like 7 of 22 in a loss.
Game 2- Booger-eater kept playing in him a blowout loss. He scored 11 of his 16 after the game wasn't competitive.
Yeah, trash. The best part was his crying and refusing to shake hands like a b!tch.
With Johnson, that's where I'm at also. I don't believe he's playing for Pitt until I see him on the court in a Pitt uniform in a real ACC game and he's scored some points. Then I'll believe it. Until then, he's not here and available.
A few of Pitt's transfers under Capel the last 3 years
Jamarius Burton- 1st Team All ACC and an ACC POY candidate
Blake Hinson- 2nd Team All ACC
Mo Gueye- Good enough to play a few NBA games and average 10 / 6 / 2 in college
Nike Sibande- 6th man of the year
With that said,
Leggett is going to be quite good next year. Im looking for Mike Cook type stats.
Also,
Pitt has 3 Top 100 recruits and 6 top 150 ranked recruits coming off the bench per Rothstein if you believe Rothstein's starting 5 (which I dont by the way). Anyone thinking Pitt is lacking talent needs to reread that again.
I also think Jaland Lowe is more than ready should something happen with Dior. This freshmen class coming in is an impact class.
Jamarius Burton- 1st Team All ACC and an ACC POY candidate
Blake Hinson- 2nd Team All ACC
Mo Gueye- Good enough to play a few NBA games and average 10 / 6 / 2 in college
Nike Sibande- 6th man of the year
With that said,
Leggett is going to be quite good next year. Im looking for Mike Cook type stats.
Also,
Pitt has 3 Top 100 recruits and 6 top 150 ranked recruits coming off the bench per Rothstein if you believe Rothstein's starting 5 (which I dont by the way). Anyone thinking Pitt is lacking talent needs to reread that again.
I also think Jaland Lowe is more than ready should something happen with Dior. This freshmen class coming in is an impact class.
How much is WVU paying him to forfeit his last year of eligibility on a 4-14 team?
Don’t know. Don't care, If he is not at SU. I follow the ACC very closely. Outside the conference, not so much.
I like Mintz, but don’t see him as a winning player. I see him as a guy who’d rather get his than win. It will be intresting to see how he and the team do this year.
It's odd that so many players go to Syracuse and just act like complete dicks on the court. I watched Mintz a good bit in the EYBL. You didn't see him acting like child on court but a year later he's completely a selfish ass.
Hmm who was the one who said that and said he wasn’t a big loss when he decommitted. For as much as I’m wrong and just a “hater”…
Capel has done a great job of identifying talent, whether thru the portal, traditional transfer, or freshmen route. He’s had good classes and late surprises. The faults have been in the actual coaching and team building. Last year, the combination of 4 old guards who had a shared sacrifice and bought into that to win and look good, plus adding a twice scorned Fede and a determined Hinson really worked. Hopefully he can use some of that last year’s magic to convince all the guys to do it again. That’s why I think they could finish anywhere from 1-15. They have enough pure talent to beat anyone, but they he did enough guys who could derail a season that it could not work. I think this is a big reason you see all of these dictator coaches retiring, the control is firmly in the players and it’s basically a crapshoot buying into a team.
The only thing that derailed last year from being special to all time was John Hugley predictably being the giant asshole he’s always been
The only thing that derailed last year from being special to all time was John Hugley predictably being the giant asshole he’s always been
This is exactly as I have seen it. I don't like Capel, he shows the weaknesses you stated. But his strength all along was going to be his ability to bring in talent which he has, but he is unable to build team unity. However, dictator Coaches, and my idea of what a good Coach is, are a relic of by-gone days....Capel has a different set of skills and they gave Pitt a great boost last year and there is no reason that Capel's skills won't continue the general trend. When his talented players bring a winning attitude that builds team unity like the group of men did last season, Capel is all about letting them lead and highlight their talent. The results speak for themselves... while the Coaches I like ride off into the sunset, some bitter and some satisfied, but all of them best suited for the rocking chair.
I really don’t care who the head coach is as long as they’re not an embarrassment like Stallings or doing other clown stuff off the court ala Huggins and embarrassing the university. Just win babh
Probably slightly less than that at 6-7. Big difference between going against the HM guys every day and just surprising them taking every shot you want OOC. Leggett might be slightly higher due to playing in a decent MM league. But he shot 13 times a game last year and 39 percent overall. Those numbers he put up were born out of opportunity on a bad team. I usually pencil in guys for somewhere between 1/2 - 2/3 of their point production bouncing up.
I agree, not only that but also, there are always going to be teammates, coaches , bosses , in life that you don't like. In the case of Capel, I really don't know him so when I say I don't like him it's not personal. But who cares if I like him, he is digging Pitt out of the CB abyss. I like Tomlin a lot more than I liked Cowher, but a lot of people see it the other way.
Oh I think Cowher is a much better coach than Tomlin. Tomlin has actually done his best work without Ben imo. If Cowher had Ben as long as Tomlin, we’d probably have another Super Bowl or 2
If he stays healthy, I would think he will match Nelly's stat line. Maybe a bit better depending on the scoring at the 3.
Tend to agree more along this track. Torvik projects Leggett at 12, Austin at 6.
12 feels right for Leggett since I think he’s gonna start and probably play close to 30 minutes. They’ve got Dior at 8, though, and I think he’ll probably settle in closer to 12, too. Both of those guys are gonna have enough usage that I think they’ll both hit it, even though I could see some inefficient games out of either one of them.
I could see a scenario where Austin could be closer to 8, but o think that’ll be less efficient just because I think they’re gonna let him shoot it from three with some volume.
I think we’ll see a split where you have Blake as the team’s leading scorer by a pretty solid margin - think 16-18 points a game - and then a collection of guys that are somewhere between 6-12, with Leggett and Dior closer to 12, and Fede, Austin, and maybe one or both of the twins down closer to 8.
I also think that if we see Jeffress enter into that grouping of 6-12 PPG guys, we’ll comfortably be in the tournament next spring.
Would you consider guys like Tony Bennett, Rick Barnes, Rick Pitino, or Chris Beard "dictator" type coaches?
A big part of Capel's success last year was a weak league and working with almost zero expectations. Most fans had already written the season off back in November. It was an enjoyable season as it played out, thanks to team chemistry and the fact the team fought to turn things around when it would have been easy to quit. ...Looking at it a few months out, the team being no-show against ND with an ACC Championship on the line and getting boat raced in the NCAA against the first quality opponent is so on brand for a Capel coached team.
Leggett isnt going to have his PPG cut in half going from A10 to ACC. The A10 is a good level. I agree Dior will be around 12.
1. He’s not gonna average around 13 shots a game like he did last year
2. The A10 is a 1 bid league. It’s no longer a good league.
If Leggett gets 13 shots a game or really anywhere in the double digit range, look for us to finish in the lower half. He isn’t an efficient scorer
39 percent FG percentage. 13 shots per game. If he’s getting anywhere close to 13 shots, Pitt is in trouble. They need to keep him around 7-5-8.5 shots a game and make him more efficient.
Lol wait I have him on ignore because his hoops takes are so bad. Did someone say Rick Pitino WASNT a dictator type coach?
Listen, I love Rick. Greatest coach of all time. Convincing Ledlum to take uncle Mass’s mafia NIL money was genius. They’re gonna be crazy good this year. He is the definition of a dictator. He just made a deal with the devil to live forever doing it
Listen, I love Rick. Greatest coach of all time. Convincing Ledlum to take uncle Mass’s mafia NIL money was genius. They’re gonna be crazy good this year. He is the definition of a dictator. He just made a deal with the devil to live forever doing it
Do you think he is or isn't?Tony Bennett's a "dictator" type coach? That's news to us.
I'm not the guy on here that coined the term dictator for a type of coach.
It all depends on perspective. Everyone has their role in his blocker-mover offense, and there might be freedom within those roles, there isn't freedom to deviate from those roles. PT depends on maintaining the team concept and limiting mistakes. And you simply don't see the floor if can't defend.
Bennett recruits culture and character over raw talent. He doesn't have to resort to old school tactics to get what he wants out of his guys. For the most part, he knows the players he inks are going to buy in.
Indiana was also curb-stomped in the first weekend. Iowa State was 19-14. Offensively, they were garbage.
With Nelly, he would’ve accepted any role to be at Pitt and bring them back like he did.
The problem with a kid like Leggett is he MAY have some idiots in his ear that tell him 9 shots ain’t enough to get him to the league. It’s all a freaking crapshoot with these muppets these days.
Like I said, let’s hope they figured out the formula. Also, I wasn’t denigrating Leggett. I think he can be a fine contributor. I just see more of a Horton type contribution. For the love of god just don’t say he is the best scorer in the ACC during preseason practice
In the context of my discussion, yes, in the sense that there is an expectation of the way business is going to be done. I did not intend it to reflect the 1960's gym teacher approach.
Indeed there is a pattern to the staff and players approach to preperation, etc., that was what I was alluding too.
Mike Cook ECU Stats as a sophomore with no help on offense trying to run point guard and be the whole offense while the entire opposing team defense is geared towards trying to stop him.
Team Record- 9-19
Pomeroy Rank- 197
15 points per game
4 rebounds per game
3 assists per game
4 turnovers per game
37% Fg percentage
31% 3 point per percentage
Mike Cook Pitt stats as a junior
10.5 points per game
3.4 rebounds per game
2.6 assists per game
1.7 turnovers per game
50% FG percentage
47% 3 point percentage
Granted, Cook sat out a year on a redshirt to improve some things. But he also did a complete transformation with his efficiency by switching positions, lowering his usage rate substantially, and having actual help with the scoring load on offense. And his stats turned out really good and we won a lot with him.
I find Leggett's stats fairly impressive given he played on one of the worst offensive teams in all of D1 when you take him off the team completely. Leggett was playing basketball last year with a bunch of Drumgoole's and Jeffress brick layers on offense and he was the entire offense.
I share some of your skepticism with regards to Austin and having a significant impact on offense and what he can do here, Im not even sure he will start. I do not have the same skepticism with Leggett. He's good, we wanted him the day he entered the portal, and we got him.
And I expect Mike Cook type numbers with more rebounds and a bit lower shooting percentages with regard to Leggett. I think he helps us a lot.
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