you got to find a team that's not in a P5 conference man, you are gonna drive yourself mad hoping pitt schedules non P5 teams and beats up teams in lower levels of football.
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Yes, No, No, Yes, Yes, No. Army, Navy, and Houston do nothing for recruiting which is part of the appeal for OC games. Temple would be beneficial bc of the Philly Area. We recruit the northeast and Florida so UConn and USF make sense as well
Which teams would move the needle for fan interest that we could realistically come to an agreement with?
Of course it does. UPS lived off that for years. You never hear anyone complaining about their schedule nationally. We arent Boise, we have a great schedule each year just from the ACC
I think you schedule two P5 games and two decent non P5 games. But the problem is we can longer afford to buy D1 NON P5 teams to come play at pitt without a return game (to get that 7th home game) so hence, we have the annual FCS buy-a-win scrimmage.. It is what it is. So with that said, make the other non P5 matchup interesting. I like Cincy, im ok with temple, that Utah game a few years back was a cool matchup (they weren't in pac 10 at time), Marshall is OK, a mountain west team would be a cool road trip (San diego st, col state, fresno state. Etc..
Is it going to "move the needle?" Takes a hell of a lot to move the needle for a very fickle fan base so no, I don't think Fresno state will give pitt fans an erection but it's still an entertaining, respectable OOC game..
The real problem is pitt fans are so used to easy schedules that when we do see top 10 opponents (PSU and OK state), we think it's some sort of murderer's row that no one in college football has seen the likes of before. Talk to some SEC fans and tell them about our tough schedule, then tell them our conference schedule will consist of maybe 1 or 2 ranked teams (Maybe) and see how hard they laugh at you..
Don't make assumptions on what I like. What I like and what's best for the program are 2 different things. This program needs Ws more than it needs P5 OOC games. I don't have a problem playing one P5 game, maybe 2 when ND games hit. That's what a lot of P5 teams do.
So you'd rather play a Non-Power 5 middle of the road team 2 or 3 time zones away in an area we do not recruit as opposed to a Non-Power 5 middle of the road team in an area we do recruit. You make no sense.
you want to manufacture a winning record with easy FCS wins. I get it but my response is, it does nothing to help improve the program. Any success is earned in conference. if we go 5-3 in ACC, and win 4 games OOC with Albany, ysu, akron and temple, we are 9-3 and laughed at nationally, and still getting the same tier 2 bowl game, as if we go 8-4 with a P5 or 2 teams on our OOC schedule..
now that's worst case. You know it's possible pitt actually beats a good P5 team too. I mean we did beat PSU last year, so we can win these. THey aren't guaranteed losses. Fans like Pitt to play teams they've heard of, they go to those games more frequently. I know I know, you don't care who they play, they could play Quaker valley and you'd still go. Well you are not the norm..
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I'm OK with that weak schedule in 2019. I want wins, not being glad strangers on a message board want better opponents at Heinz. That wasn't directed at you either.
these OOC P5 games are home and home. No one is saying pitt should always play them on the road. I've said over 3 times in this thread who I want to play.
And the recruit in that neighborhood idea is sooo over rated on this board. So we play FAU or FIU on a Saturday in September in front of 246 people like we did a few years ago, you think that all of a sudden opens the eyes of major florida recruits who all of a sudden want to come to pitt now? You really think that? tell me you believe that please..
Beating a good P5 team on TV, that is actually on tv and not on espn8u.com will get us more attention in recruiting than beating a non P5 team in any region of the US.. Beating PSU turned more heads than playing FIU in a football recruiting region..
what non P5 OOC game do we schedule that you think helps us on recruiting? I've said I like the Cincy matchup, im ok with temple but no, I don't think a Temple game would help us with a 3 or 4 star kid from Philly just because we scheduled them compared to if we didn't. I don't think playing cincy will sway a western OH kid to come to pitt because they happened to get free tickets to the game and had an eye opening first hand experience seeing us play. It's such a silly concept and still some on this board thinks it exists..
95% of people have no idea who you beat. Nobody is laughing at a 9-3 ranked teams schedule. Bowls want good match ups that look good, and a 7-5 team that lost "tough" OOC games doesn't look good. Pitt's lost the vast majority of the P5 OOC games in the past 10, 20, 30 years (pick your timeframe) and it's not even close.
And for the second time, don't confuse what I would like with what's best for the program.
That 2019 schedule looks good to me. BC as our Atlantic cross over. If we are headed where we think we are, that should be a 10+ win year for Narduzzi in year 4.
im a fan of P5 football, you aren't. , we will agree to disagree. I SAID GOOD DAY
Exactly! Use last year as an example. We went 8-5 with big wins against Clemson and PS. You would think people would be excited, but yet the needle did not move much. If you replaced Okie St. with an Akron home win, then some people would have been more excited with a 9-4 overall record. It probably would have helped a little with the attendance last year as well. The Okie St loss took some wind out of the sails.
I am a fan of PITT football, and what is best for the PITT football program.
Agreed - it will be a 10 win year if we are going in the right direction. IMO we stay in the 7-8 Win range this year, but that is the year to make hay for sure.
If we're just looking for Ws, why not go the Big 10 model and schedule Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Minnesota and Penn State for OOC games. I'd take Ws from 2 or 3 of those every year.
If we were to buy out Delaware in 2019 for a P5 opponent, TCU is the only school I could find that had an open date that day. Of course, we could get another school to buy out their FCS opponent that day, which would open up a lot more possibilities.
Maybe Jamie can do the coin toss
Maybe Jamie can do the coin toss
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Careful, what you wish for, an Akron home win hasn't worked out in the past
That was under Chryst. Narduzzi has taken care of the team's we were clear favorites against. We would have easily beaten them last year with our team.
Pitt @ Marshall needs to be off the schedule for 2020. I can see playing at Navy or Temple since those areas have alumni bases and are areas Pitt recruits. What possible benefit comes from playing a non-P5 team in WV?
Some of our hoops posters are already plotting to bring him down Zapruder style. Fortunately the other subset on that board have sworn vows to take the bullets.If we were to buy out Delaware in 2019 for a P5 opponent, TCU is the only school I could find that had an open date that day. Of course, we could get another school to buy out their FCS opponent that day, which would open up a lot more possibilities.
Maybe Jamie can do the coin toss
Temple is good and they are attracting a lot of good players from Eastern PA and New Jersey. It would be a no brainer to play them and as a philly alumnus it would be great to have my alma mater come back to the area
VaTech just added games
home/home BYU
5 games with Liberty( 3h,2a)
6 games with Old Dominion (3h,3a)
home/home BYU
5 games with Liberty( 3h,2a)
6 games with Old Dominion (3h,3a)
Who wants to go to the Linc and see a game like back in the days of the Vet with 9,000 people- real downer!
Crowds of 9.000 are as ancient history as Bobby Wallace, Ron Dickerson, and the Vet are..
And YSU, Toledo, Bowling Green, Akron.
"Easy guaranteed wins" for us are typically anything but.
Pitt should be working wth other lower tier schools toward a system where P5 would only play P5 opponents in and out of conference, and set home and away games for all. Allow a non official preseason game for the critical first game warm up.
And standard discipline for common infractions (like failed weed tests or DUI) while at it. Forget being on the same page, which will never happen, but at least get in the same library.
But it took 100 plus years to get agreement on an "early" signing period for recruiting of six whopping weeks... so I'm not gonna hold me breath.
I would be at the Linc in a second - I wish we had a Pitt - Temple series
30+ . . . and increasing each year.
"Temple won't sustain it when Al Golden leaves.:"
:Temple won's sustain it when Steve Addazio leaves.::
"Temple won't sustain it when Matt Rhule leaves."
"Temple won't sustain it . . . :"
Mediocrity is your old hoary reminiscence. We're way beyond that now, never to return.
Just my opinion, but I feel that Pitt should always play either Army or Navy. They offer competitive games (especially Navy), each has good fan support and they are close enough for Pitt fans to attend away games versus these team. Now that I think about it, I wonder just how much interest the Naval Academy would have in playing Pitt after the debacle that occurred at the end of their last game against each other here in Pittsburgh. That was a night game and Pitt was in such a hurry to get the post-game fireworks started, that they shut down the lights and started playing music over the Heinz Field speakers as the Naval Academy was singing their school alma mater. The folks from the Naval Academy who were sitting around us were not happy and to be quite honest it made Pitt look pretty bad.
