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Stallings to be announced as coach

A bad coach? Not at all. Its not like he's Ron Jirsa or Richard Pitino. He is to Vandy what Jamie was to Pitt at tougher place to win. He's been to 2 Sweet 16s at Vandy and has an SEC tourney championship. 7 NCAA appearances and Vandy has only been to 14 in their entire history. He also put Illinois State on the map. He's not THAT bad.

People got on Dixon for subpar results the last five years, so the idea of replacing him with someone with worse results is very disappointing.

Dixon 112-63; 4 20+ win seasons; 1 win in 3 NCAA tournament appearances
Stallings 96-72; 2 20+ win seasons; 1 conference tournament title; 1 win in 2 NCAA appearances
 
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He really is and he has been awful the past 4 years. Dixon is light-years better than him. Stallings has absolutely no upside. The Pete would be empty every game.

The last 4 years have been awful. No argument there.

Dixon isn't light years better. One huge improvement over Dixon is that Stallings actually plays teams in the OOC schedule. Just this past year Vandy played Kansas, Baylor, Dayton, Purdue and Texas. That's been a fairly routine thing under KS at Vandy.

It's hard to say what his upside is at a school like Pitt. I think it would be a totally unknown that would all come back to recruiting.
 
Maybe this is Scotty "Big Splash" Barnes' way of lowering the bar, so when he hires some nobody that he says has great potential, everyone will just say "at least he's better than Stallings".
 
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The last 4 years have been awful. No argument there.

Dixon isn't light years better. One huge improvement over Dixon is that Stallings actually plays teams in the OOC schedule. Just this past year Vandy played Kansas, Baylor, Dayton, Purdue and Texas. That's been a fairly routine thing under KS at Vandy.

It's hard to say what his upside is at a school like Pitt. I think it would be a totally unknown that would all come back to recruiting.
Who cares who he plays? That is AD driven in large part and will be with any coach hired after Dixon. He is an old man with a poor track record and a bad personality. He had absolutely no upside. It would be a debilitating hire. He can't coach and he hasn't shown to be a good recruiter.
 
People got on Dixon for subpar results the last five years, so the idea of replacing him with someone with worse results is very disappointing.

Dixon 112-63; 4 20+ win seasons; 1 win in 3 NCAA tournament appearances
Stallings 96-72; 2 20+ win seasons; 1 conference tournament title; 1 win in 2 NCAA appearances
Are they trying to convince us that SEC basketball is tougher than ACC basketball?

I think this Stallings thing is all based on rumor and speculation, and that he's not gonna get the position. If Barnes was concerned that he had empty seats this season, next season would be much worse with that hire. Barnes is no fool; he knows that Pitt fans are expecting someone with more appeal.
 
Maybe this is Scotty "Big Splash" Barnes' way of lowering the bar, so when he hires some nobody that he says has great potential, everyone will just say "at least he's better than Stallings".
If Kevin Stallings was even considered (and it sounds like he seriously has been) I have no faith in Barnes as an AD. None.
 
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Who cares who he plays? That is AD driven in large part and will be with any coach hired after Dixon. He is an old man with a poor track record and a bad personality. He had absolutely no upside. It would be a debilitating hire. He can't coach and he hasn't shown to be a good recruiter.

Head coaches drive the OOC schedule for the most part. His track record isn't bad. Its hard to say what his upside would be. His teams are much more fun to watch offensively. I don't think that is debatable. He's a good coach and he recruits okay at a VERY difficult place to recruit.
 
His track record is bad, though. No, they have say in it and so does the AD. Winning is really all that matters and he can't do that. Would I like better OOC games? Absolutely. Would I much rather win when it matters? Absolutely.

If Kevin Stallings is the hire, I hope his plane crashes into the car Barnes is waiting in to welcome him to Pittsburgh.


I don't think you can call anybody's track record 'bad' that holds down a job for 17 years in a power conference. It's not what I would like either, but its fairly apparent that its as good as hire we are going to make.

OOC schedule is mostly the coach. The AD just rubber stamps it for the most part.
 
Head coaches drive the OOC schedule for the most part. His track record isn't bad. Its hard to say what his upside would be. His teams are much more fun to watch offensively. I don't think that is debatable. He's a good coach and he recruits okay at a VERY difficult place to recruit.

James Franklin>Kevin Stallings. And I don't make that assumption lightly.
 
If Stallings is the hire, and I'm not convinced he will be, I'll go out on a limb and say that he will have more success at Pitt than Jamie Dixon will at TCU.
 
I don't think you can call anybody's track record 'bad' that holds down a job for 17 years in a power conference. It's not what I would like either, but its fairly apparent that its as good as hire we are going to make.

OOC schedule is mostly the coach. The AD just rubber stamps it for the most part.
Almost any name mentioned would be clearly better because there would be some upside involved. With Stallings there is absolutely none. He is old and can't coach or recruit and his current school is packing his bags and fixing cupcakes for anyone who will take him off their hands
 
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Old? The old guys that have been around the block a few times seem to be doing better than many of the so called up and comers lately. This isn't football.

And I totally disagree that there is no upside. I think its a big unknown.
 
Old? The old guys that have been around the block a few times seem to be doing better than many of the so called up and comers lately. This isn't football.

And I totally disagree that there is no upside. I think its a big unknown.

The only upside is that this is such a disastrous hire that this braindead AD will be fired in a couple years.

I don't think people fully fathom how horrible this is.
 
Old? The old guys that have been around the block a few times seem to be doing better than many of the so called up and comers lately. This isn't football.

And I totally disagree that there is no upside. I think its a big unknown.
You mean the guys who have proven to be too coaches for years and years? Stallings has proven to not be good for years and years. Complete opposite.
 
What did Jim Larranaga prove his first 21 years as a head coach?

He wasn't hired by an ACC program until after he went to the Final Four and led George Mason to another tournament win. Nobody would have a problem with Stallings if he had led Vanderbilt to a Final Four.
 
What did Jim Larranaga prove his first 21 years as a head coach?

There were lots of people who thought Miami made a solid hire there. Lots. I'm pretty sure George mason wasn't inventing ways to buy out his contract when Miami hired him away.

The entire college basketball world will be laughing at Pitt for hiring stallings.

I expect a mass exodus from the current roster. All of our recruits to ask out of their scholarships. I expect the press conference to be a disaster, and Pitt to descend to the BC/Wake level of the conference.

If Pitt hires Kevin stallings, Pitt basketball is dead. Or at least in a coma until the AD and stallings are fired.
 
I didn't ask what people thought of Miami's hire. I asked what Jim Larranaga did his first 21 years of coaching.

Who cares what he did his first 21 years. He didn't land a job in the best conference in the nation until after he did something noteworthy.

Stallings couldn't even make the NCAA tournament half the time in the SEC and he's supposed to make it more often than not in the ACC?
 
Larranaga has only made the tourney twice in 5 years at Miami.

Are you related to Stallings?

Come to think of it, I don't even this his relatives could defend this hire.

Hey, anytime you can hire the coach that Vandy would literally pay millions to not coach their team, you gotta do it
 
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Are you related to Stallings?

Come to think of it, I don't even this his relatives could defend this hire.

Hey, anytime you can hire the coach that Vandy would literally pay millions to not coach their team, you gotta do it

Its not a great hire, but its not a disaster either. He's a helluva lot better than what people give him credit for on here.

It was painfully obvious after the Millers turned Pitt down that a splash hire wasn't happening.
 
I think we could have done better, but don't hate the hire, if true. Stallings and Dixon are in the same class, IMO. Stallings has done well at a place that is tough to do well at. I don't think he will regress the program but not sure if he is the one to take it back to elite status.
 
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So you took that as a serious threat? Did you think Jim McElwain should have been canned too?

If that was my son and the coach threatened to "kill him", 2 things would happen. First I'd present the coach with a lawsuit after having a LONG talk with him and setting him straight. Then I'd pull my son from the team until the douchebag is replaced.

Stallings is a waste of a choice, a terrible coach, and a terrible person. I hope the whole Pitt team transfers. It would be only right for Barnes to get the message that this is a disaster of a hire. We go from having a coach who was one of the best people around and the best coach we had in any sport, to a complete dipshit with no sense of morals and decency who can't coach. Geez, Mike Rice would be better than this!!!
 
He is a complete jerk and has proven it many times over believe me.

Vol fan? Still bitter because your idiot AD screwed up when you tried to hire Stallings 20 years ago by talking about Tim Floyd in his living room and Stallings showed him the door?

Bruce Pearl, Kevin O'Neil, Donnie Tyndall... for crying out loud, you pushed Cuonzo Martin out to hire Donnie Tyndall! Spare me the Kevin Stallings is a jerk crap. He's a good guy that tries to do things right and doesn't give a flip about his perception. I like him.
 
Why not just keep Dixon if you are going to hire Stallings? You had the buyout to prevent him from leaving.

because Dixon left voluntarily and wasn't worth giving him anymore money. But I guess if this is the best you can come up with then by all means open up the purse for Jamie.
 
His teams are much more fun to watch offensively. I don't think that is debatable.


In his last four years his teams were (starting this year and working back) 192, 214, 312 and 335 in tempo. So let's not pretend he's bringing some sort of high flying, up tempo style along with him.
 
Many of you wanted Dixon gone. Never assume you will get a new coach who will be better. Jamie won 20 games year after year. He was very good for a long time.
 
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