Watched their game yesterday…his offense looks pretty good to me!
Talk about revisionist history.It’s no secret I’m a big fan of Marion, and he’ll be at a top school as an OC soon enough. He’s just a shooting star in the coaching ranks, and Pitt was lucky to have him for the short time they did. I still can’t believe he wanted the OC job so much, he was telling recruits he was the guy and Narduzzi said hold up, I got this guy Frank Cignetti, and he’s way better.
watch the nits hire him, that would be classic
Is it, though? There were a lot of us who wanted Marion to take over for Whipple after the ACC Championship.Talk about revisionist history.
Could have had an up and coming star but we hired Cignetti. Has to be the worst decision of the Narduzzi era.
You're a Marine. How would that go if your were going around telling people you had a certain rank but you didn't?I still can’t believe he wanted the OC job so much, he was telling recruits he was the guy and Narduzzi said hold up, I got this guy Frank Cignetti, and he’s way better.
"We've got better people in those positions now, I guarantee you that."It’s no secret I’m a big fan of Marion, and he’ll be at a top school as an OC soon enough. He’s just a shooting star in the coaching ranks, and Pitt was lucky to have him for the short time they did. I still can’t believe he wanted the OC job so much, he was telling recruits he was the guy and Narduzzi said hold up, I got this guy Frank Cignetti, and he’s way better.
I would have preferred Marion as well, but there was a very deliberate reason why he was not chosen. IMHO, Marion handled the entire situation wrong when he was at PITT then he trashed the program on his way out. There was a considerable amount of collateral damage and he sowed seeds of discontent with the current players. Based on his character in this situation, I was happy he was not picked.Is it, though? There were a lot of us who wanted Marion to take over for Whipple after the ACC Championship.
He's so good he went from Texas to ... UNLV. I guess the 130 other D1 schools not named Pitt, Texas and UNLV whiffed on this future College Hall of Fame coach.9-2
Plays for division championship vs San Jose State next week. If they win that and the MWC championship, they probably go to the Peach Bowl if Tulane were to lose another game.
I’d probably end up in jail for stolen valor. And I get your point, he made a mistake telling recruits that. But, we still should have hired him.You're a Marine. How would that go if your were going around telling people you had a certain rank but you didn't?
Maybe those other 130 D1 schools did miss on him...we'll see.He's so good he went from Texas to ... UNLV. I guess the 130 other D1 schools not named Pitt, Texas and UNLV whiffed on this future College Hall of Fame coach.
Possibly - but I think it was an accumulation of those type of things as to why he's not at PITT or maybe even Texas.I’d probably end up in jail for stolen valor. And I get your point, he made a mistake telling recruits that. But, we still should have hired him.
Is it though? Replace "Cignetti" with "Salem" and that's pretty much what I heard happened.Talk about revisionist history.
I'd prefer to move on and talk about getting Mike Shanahan to PITT.Is it though? Replace "Cignetti" with "Salem" and that's pretty much what I heard happened.
The gist that I heard was that he wanted to interview before the bowl game and Duzz shut him down and said that the process would play out after the season ended. Then he chose Salem to call the plays for the bowl game which made it pretty clear that he had no intention of promoting Marion.
I don’t know enough about what happened to defend him, so I’m not going to defend him or his actions on the way out. The much bigger issue at Pitt is that 1 maybe 2 of Narduzzi’s OC hires have been good. Presumably, Cignetti is gone after the Duke game, but what confidence is there Narduzzi is going to pick a good OC this time? At some point, Narduzzi has to be held accountable for poor OC hires. I don’t think Heather is going to do it, so who will? I just see this as a philosophical issue as what Narduzzi believes will help him win is light years away from the reality of what does win in College Football.I would have preferred Marion as well, but there was a very deliberate reason why he was not chosen. IMHO, Marion handled the entire situation wrong when he was at PITT then he trashed the program on his way out. There was a considerable amount of collateral damage and he sowed seeds of discontent with the current players. Based on his character in this situation, I was happy he was not picked.
Lol. Talent is what works well in college football. That's the main issue with the offense.I don’t know enough about what happened to defend him, so I’m not going to defend him or his actions on the way out. The much bigger issue at Pitt is that 1 maybe 2 of Narduzzi’s OC hires have been good. Presumably, Cignetti is gone after the Duke game, but what confidence is there Narduzzi is going to pick a good OC this time? At some point, Narduzzi has to be held accountable for poor OC hires. I don’t think Heather is going to do it, so who will? I just see this as a philosophical issue as what Narduzzi believes will help him win is light years away from the reality of what does win in College Football.
Duzz does not get along with his OCs and if he does...the guy stinks. Jim Chaney was a very good OC who did not take Duzz's crap and he was out after one year. Canada was a good OC who had some strong talent around him and could not pass up LSU. Watson was a total disaster. Whipple was more like Chaney and did not need Duzz or his attitude. I think we saw a common theme here. I am a Duzz fan but he needs work in this area.I don’t know enough about what happened to defend him, so I’m not going to defend him or his actions on the way out. The much bigger issue at Pitt is that 1 maybe 2 of Narduzzi’s OC hires have been good. Presumably, Cignetti is gone after the Duke game, but what confidence is there Narduzzi is going to pick a good OC this time? At some point, Narduzzi has to be held accountable for poor OC hires. I don’t think Heather is going to do it, so who will? I just see this as a philosophical issue as what Narduzzi believes will help him win is light years away from the reality of what does win in College Football.
I don't know that this is Duzz thing. I wouldn't read too much into a 30 second sound biteDuzz does not get along with his OCs and if he does...the guy stinks. Jim Chaney was a very good OC who did not take Duzz's crap and he was out after one year. Canada was a good OC who had some strong talent around him and could not pass up LSU. Watson was a total disaster. Whipple was more like Chaney and did not need Duzz or his attitude. I think we saw a common theme here. I am a Duzz fan but he needs work in this area.
He's so good he went from Texas to ... UNLV. I guess the 130 other D1 schools not named Pitt, Texas and UNLV whiffed on this future College Hall of Fame coach.
Too young for Narduzzi, calls 2023 plays not 1950's.I'd prefer to move on and talk about getting Mike Shanahan to PITT.
Last I heard Pitt fans were crucifying him. That being said I wouldn’t mind seeing him here9-2
Plays for division championship vs San Jose State next week. If they win that and the MWC championship, they probably go to the Peach Bowl if Tulane were to lose another game.
This is a solid take and post. Doesn't matter because Marion's publicist SMF, and a few of his cousins, will continue to start a few threads a week about him. Dude spent a total of 10 months here.I was 100% fine with not promoting him after 2021. We had a "win now" team, so it made sense not to roll the dice on someone who had never done it at this level before. And then his shenanigans on social media were just the icing on the cake.
Does it look bad now? Of course. But that doesn't make it the wrong decision at the time. Hiring Cignetti was obviously the wrong decision, but that doesn't mean not hiring Marion was.
I'd love to give Marion a look now, with a year of G5 experience under his belt, but I assume that ship has sailed, capsized, and spontaneously combusted.
Easily....and he made some stupid ones.Yea, this is a pretty much guarantee. Ultimate troll move by Franklin. Could have had an up and coming star but we hired Cignetti. Has to be the worst decision of the Narduzzi era.
Easily....and he made some stupid ones.
Pitt legitimately bragged to recruits about winning 20 games the last 2 years. They did the same thing you’re saying doesn’t work, and maybe it doesn’t, because I don’t think 1 recruit cared about that. Point being, Pitt tried building on the success of past teams.That's crazy to think Addison would make Pitt 11-1. Pretty sure I saw Addison play in the Peach Bowl whan Pitt lost by 10.
Even if a Pitt has went 12-0 or 11-1, that's nothing to build on. You don't "build on" the success of past teams. TCU isn't going to build a damn thing off their Natty game appearance. Neither is Cincinnati isn't going to build off their playoff appearance.
Programs that sustain success are programs that feed the recruiting machine 24/7.
Yeah, it's just another selling point to add to many others.Pitt legitimately bragged to recruits about winning 20 games the last 2 years. They did the same thing you’re saying doesn’t work, and maybe it doesn’t, because I don’t think 1 recruit cared about that. Point being, Pitt tried building on the success of past teams.
Who was throwing to Addison at the Peach Bowl?That's crazy to think Addison would make Pitt 11-1. Pretty sure I saw Addison play in the Peach Bowl whan Pitt lost by 10.
Even if a Pitt has went 12-0 or 11-1, that's nothing to build on. You don't "build on" the success of past teams. TCU isn't going to build a damn thing off their Natty game appearance. Neither is Cincinnati isn't going to build off their playoff appearance.
Programs that sustain success are programs that feed the recruiting machine 24/7.
So based on what you saw in those games, you think Pitt would have won them with Addison?Who was throwing to Addison at the Peach Bowl?
We beat GT and Lou guaranteed with him. 100% guaranteed. Probably split Ten/UNC. Maybe we win both.
So based on what you saw in those games, you think Pitt would have won them with Addison?
Then you see the idiocy of thinking the coordinator hire has anything to do with his decision.I wished I could go higher than 100%
He loves dead horses... If playing for a coach was so important, why didn't he go to Austin?Then you see the idiocy of thinking the coordinator hire has anything to do with his decision.
It was a business decision, and a chance to play in LA with Caleb.
Because no one with a brain is picking Austin Texas over LA. Although both are Liberal hell holes.He loves dead horses... If playing for a coach was so important, why didn't he go to Austin?
Why doesn't Texas lose a bunch of kids to LA based schools?Because no one with a brain is picking Austin Texas over LA. Although both are Liberal hell holes.