This Is How To Pay College Athletes
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The writer seems totally out of touch with the economic status of most U's who complete in P5/D1 sports!
He primarily mentions college sports factories who get top talent, can afford to play players, and make a ton of money from sports. Most U's aren't in that category.
U's like PITT aren't rolling in money. If a plan like the writer suggested was implemented most U's wouldn't be able to compete, would move to a lower level or drop football and or basketball.
College sports would become minor leagues and not be college sports!
Paying athletes opens up all kinds of legal /labor law / benefits challenges and can's of worms that most businesses and Corporations struggle with today.
-Compensation management - Who gets paid & how much? Do non revenue sports athletes get paid? If yes how much?
The schlorship award makes this a non issue!
-Workers comp
-Disability payments
-Insurance & medical cost
on & on
To fund the employee or contractor status of the small number college athletes at a U tuition would go up for the general student population.
The best way to fix this is to create a minor football and basketball league where all the top talent will end up who don't want an education!
The real student athletes would be able play college sports, get a degree, and have a shot at a Pro career.
"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
He primarily mentions college sports factories who get top talent, can afford to play players, and make a ton of money from sports. Most U's aren't in that category.
U's like PITT aren't rolling in money. If a plan like the writer suggested was implemented most U's wouldn't be able to compete, would move to a lower level or drop football and or basketball.
College sports would become minor leagues and not be college sports!
Paying athletes opens up all kinds of legal /labor law / benefits challenges and can's of worms that most businesses and Corporations struggle with today.
-Compensation management - Who gets paid & how much? Do non revenue sports athletes get paid? If yes how much?
The schlorship award makes this a non issue!
-Workers comp
-Disability payments
-Insurance & medical cost
on & on
To fund the employee or contractor status of the small number college athletes at a U tuition would go up for the general student population.
The best way to fix this is to create a minor football and basketball league where all the top talent will end up who don't want an education!
The real student athletes would be able play college sports, get a degree, and have a shot at a Pro career.
"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
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Make no mistake about it, it's coming. As said above, only the schools that are raking in money will be able to afford to play, but it's coming. The 20-24 or so of the richest schools will split off from the rest, pay their athletes, garner the most talent, and play for the national championship. The rest will just go back to playing old-fashioned college football.
It's pretty much already happening. Only a handful of teams every year are true contenders for the national championship, and the rest are merely in existence to make the networks money. Those lesser schools are all throwing away millions of dollars on coaches etc hoping to strike gold, but it never happens. We need to get back to reality anyhow. Let the SEC and Ohio State and a few others become defacto minor league NFL programs, and let the rest of the collegiate world get back to normal. It will be painful for the lesser lites to admit their stature, but hey, it's already reality. There are no surprise winners in college football by the end of the season.
It's pretty much already happening. Only a handful of teams every year are true contenders for the national championship, and the rest are merely in existence to make the networks money. Those lesser schools are all throwing away millions of dollars on coaches etc hoping to strike gold, but it never happens. We need to get back to reality anyhow. Let the SEC and Ohio State and a few others become defacto minor league NFL programs, and let the rest of the collegiate world get back to normal. It will be painful for the lesser lites to admit their stature, but hey, it's already reality. There are no surprise winners in college football by the end of the season.
If those are your questions or concerns, it's pretty clear you didn't actually read the article, because almost every point is addressed. Schools that couldn't pay just wouldn't pay, there is already a competitive disparity, and compensation management would be subject to free market conditions just like most sectors; Alabama football could hand out $500k signing bonuses, Pitt men's basketball could offer $30k/year salaries, TCU softball could offer the top pitching recruit $1 million, and the athletes are free to navigate the market just like any other. If the school and player both agree to it, and it satisfies existing employment law, have at it.
I read the article!
The writers plan would work for the Top programs but not for everyone else who can't afford to pay players!
This plan would make the competitive disadvantage worse.
Now only a few top athletes are "paid" illegally under the table!
With this plan the Top Teams could pay many or most of their stars attracting all top talent to the top U's forcing other U's to go out of the college football business!
U's like PITT and most others aren't going to stay in D1/P5 football or basketball and have no chance to get top talent since they can't afford to pay what other U's pay for those same players.
College sports is supposed to attract the Student Athletes!
It's not a free labor sports market, minor leagues are, it's college sports!
As I mentioned this plan will work for the top U's but not for the majority of colleges who play D1/P5 sports!
They simply won't be able to pay or pay enough to get players who could compete!
"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
that is the problem with all of these plans to pay players. whether you let them market and sell merchandise or pay them, it always will benefit the very few and increase the gap between the blue bloods and the rest of college athletics..
Think about letting a kid get reimbursed on their "likeness." Aka jersey sales. You don't think a school like UNC could tell a kid that every Nike retail store will have their jersey on the racks, we can guarantee that. You think a smaller school can make that guarantee?
It's not going to work and it will demolish college athletics. A lot of people seem to want that, they want a minor league over college sports. OK, fine but why would a school be involved in this? why would 95% of colleges even let their school name be associated with a professional league? It doesn't make sense.
Agree!
If a minor league is started for basketball or football colleges would have nothing to do with it the NBA or NFL or some other organization but not colleges!
Pay for play in college sports is the end of college sports as we know it today.
It'll be a collection of maybe 50 programs who can afford to play athletes with the remainder moving to a lower level to reduce costs!
Burnie and the other liberals who support this like the redistribution of wealth idea and don't even think businesses should make money.
This question always trips up a liberal! It doesn't apply to college sports.
Are businesses and Corporations ( colleges aren't either of these) in business to hire people?
Answer: No! They're in Business to Make Profits!
But in the course of doing business, if they Need people, they hire them, pay a wage equal to the value the person adds to the business to make a profit!
"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
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the only thing I truly disagree with is not allowing a kid to enter a professional league, the one year rule in NBA and 3 year rule in football. I mean, I like it cause im a fan and like college more than pros but it is kind of a BS rule. Telling an 18 year old that they cant go to the league yet. That's ridiculous.
pittdan77
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Actually, I think in some sense, this would help schools like Pitt along with its players.
The natural evolution is that schools would force players into agreements that could cause certain compensation over a "minimum" to be returned and could be a lot more aggressive at finding revenue streams for the "stars" that would allow the program to take a cut. A good athletic department that isn't involved with a blue-chip program could thrive. I think the city schools would benefit more than some of these remote schools just because their are more dollars available that are currently untapped because appearance fees or marketing campaigns aren't legal right now.
Nothing will be perfect and competing will still be difficult but I'm completely in favor of compensating the players who risk routinely put their bodies at risk for entertainment and for the school to get paid.
The natural evolution is that schools would force players into agreements that could cause certain compensation over a "minimum" to be returned and could be a lot more aggressive at finding revenue streams for the "stars" that would allow the program to take a cut. A good athletic department that isn't involved with a blue-chip program could thrive. I think the city schools would benefit more than some of these remote schools just because their are more dollars available that are currently untapped because appearance fees or marketing campaigns aren't legal right now.
Nothing will be perfect and competing will still be difficult but I'm completely in favor of compensating the players who risk routinely put their bodies at risk for entertainment and for the school to get paid.
What you posted in absolute nonsense!
Most / the majoirty of colleges make no money on college sports.
At most U's non athlete students pay higher tuition to finance sports programs. This provides the revenue sport athlete a chance to be a pro athlete.
If a sports program happens to make money ( most don't except for a few top sports U's) the money is used to finance revenue and non revenue athletic programs.
In fact most colleges run a deficit and finance the sports for college athletes!
College athletes are given the opportunity to gain a Free education, demonstrate their athletic skills for free, so they have the opportunity to secure a great job after graduation or move to Pro sports and make millions!
That's a great deal for anyone!
"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
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in other words take college out of college athletics...nah, just have the kids qualify for school based on academics like my kid did. Should they be able to play a game pay their tuition and room a board. Let the pro leagues do whatever they wish. "Hey kid, it's up to you". College football made up of lesser athletes will still be much much more popular and enjoyable than minor league football or basketball. I'll watch a bunch of Pitt students playing against a bunch of Syracuse students over the Pittsburgh Maulers featuring a bunch of non affiliated ex high school studs.
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