Just admit you were wrong and move on my man. You also never provided any sources for those character rumors btw
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Um, everything I stated happened, you can look up on Google about him arguing with Kermit and being forced out
There's nothing about him being forced out.
Post the link.
Is this guy a project? Or was he injured last year? I don't see any stats for him with Memphis.
I don’t know how so many of you are so assured Pitt will simply just jettison this guy next winter. Read and listen to the news. It’s 2022, not 1992. Pitt really, really, really, doesn’t want to fire a POC coach who is active in the social causes of the day and is admired in the community … a community that just elected a new POC mayor committed to advocacy for POC as his top priority.
Not to mention the buyout will still be a total waste of several $million, even if less than the buyout now would have been this year. On top of needing to pay for a replacement and his staff. Really painful hit to the coffers, and boosters may not come to the rescue this time.
But, if Capel produces a laughingstock season, they really won’t have much choice. No matter how a great social symbol he might be, keeping a guy after yet another terrible season may be smart politics, but really bad business.
So it definitely would make sense for the school to (finally) loosen the shackles and give him the resources necessary to be competitive with transfers. Cheaper all the way around and still lets Pitt feel good about itself.
Not to mention the buyout will still be a total waste of several $million, even if less than the buyout now would have been this year. On top of needing to pay for a replacement and his staff. Really painful hit to the coffers, and boosters may not come to the rescue this time.
But, if Capel produces a laughingstock season, they really won’t have much choice. No matter how a great social symbol he might be, keeping a guy after yet another terrible season may be smart politics, but really bad business.
So it definitely would make sense for the school to (finally) loosen the shackles and give him the resources necessary to be competitive with transfers. Cheaper all the way around and still lets Pitt feel good about itself.
Yeah I’m gonna have to disagree. He’s only still here because of the buyout. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin.
We’ll find out eventually.
This strategy to let him bomb through a long, ugly, humiliating season (frankly the offseason as well, thus far) just to then fire him on the final day, is sooooo harmful, when the system now allows for a major infusion of talent (legally).
Yeah, I agree with your statement. This has nothing to do with the color of his skin or his misplaced social priorities. I don't think the AD or the administration cares one lick about what ethnicity he is or where he stands on social issues, even though both of those things always seem to enter into conversation, unfortunately. If he can't bring Pitt back to at least an NIT bid this year, he's gone. The administration wants results, not silly and misplaced social political correctness. At least that's what I hope they want.
You can't blame the school for that. Not getting recruits and not getting results is the total fault of the coach and his staff. No excuses. Like you said, schools with far less resources than what Pitt provides get MUCH better talent. Capel has been given more than enough to succeed. He hasn't.
Because we as Pitt fans have to believe that there is a coach out there who would get better results than Capel has gotten. It wouldn't be hard to do that. We'd like to believe that we won't hire another "jabroney", as you put it, and he just might have a better pedigree. Give it a shot. Nothing else has worked to date. Letting him dangle in the wind is purely because of financial reasons. The buyout decreases substantially next year.
Face reality. Boosters pay players. The school does not. The school happily allows it, or SHOULD, now that it’s legal. But the school is not paying out of its own funds (or is stupid to do so, if it does). I personally don’t understand it but there are lots of type A guys who get gratification funding winning sports teams. But they have to be WELCOMED to do so, not told to donate and shut up (until needed to bail out the school when they inevitably have to fire the latest turkey who couldn’t win with 0-star players). The school can therefore have NO resources and still get talent. Nobody likes to admit it. I get it. But not liking it doesn’t make it so.
This cycle Pitt is in right now is suicidal. It kills more of the base each time. It won’t randomly get better.
Reportedly by numerous sources, it was $15MM this year, decreasing to $5MM next year. That is pocket change to get a fresh start.
Man, you were doing so well under yet another new handle too! Surprised you lasted this long, to be honest.
You've presented no facts. So Johnson, Champ & Toney all on the SAME team wasn't talent? What more does your friend Jeff (clearly you're tied to him why else would you go to such great lengths to defend mediocity) need to succeed? You brought it up, you back it up. He's paid handsomely & all we get are losses & excuses.
Capel's had the talent and has blown it. He can't coach, and that's just a statement of fact.
Take your point and switching it, how DOES he miraculously get those three guys, like within a week…and actually display some success on court with them … yet immediately hit a total desert with players after that? There had to have been some juice there that was allowed, to get him going, to get him to take the job (think back to how BAD the job looked then).
This (along with the willingness to take back a guy who was an admitted car thief) goes back to Pitt willing to be a little bit dirty, a little bit pregnant, but not willing to take it to term. That’s almost worse that a complete chastity belt.
It. Makes. No. Sense. That. He. Can’t. Attract. Anybody. At. All. Going. On. Two. Years. Now.
But do it this way. Let the guy such an entire calendar year, grueling embarrassing losses night in and out, mocking media, checked out fans, black ink in operations. Give him his six million as he is hustled out the door. Pay through every orafice to hire the best (we hope) of the sorry lot of characters who will apply. I like how the list of guys debated in other threads grows more obscure and fantastical each month. Hey, when is the next thread about hiring Pitino or Miller going to drop?
Totally disagree with the notion JC has had enough talent . TB being your best 5 for 2 seasons and AKC for 1 says enough , not to mention that his teams have never had enough offensive skill to be much better than they’ve been . They’ve been one of worst P6 shooting teams in the country for his entire time here and even a bumpkin could devise an effective defense against his teams . His selling point was his recruiting abilities and to me that’s the area that defines his failure not his coaching .
People tend to over generalize, me included. Not EVERY recruit is secured with a paper bag (just most of ‘em anymore, but not all). Likewise nobody gets this far in the profession utterly bereft of coaching skills.
The team was showing progress before ‘The Troubles’ reared their ugly heads last year. Certainly inconsistent. But there was some excitement brewing. I’d have liked to see where it could have all gone in the last two years. But absolutely, there needed to be continuous replenishment of talent. Truth be told it’s a likely combination of him/his staff not trying hard enough and Pitt’s stubbornness in getting in the sewer. Either way it’s been a debacle since last January or so.
Sounds like we may be getting Fede Federiko! He would be a nice replacement for Mo!
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