Chancellor Gallagher

[PittMan 72]

I attended Pitt from 1971-1975, I saw Johnny Majors and great assistants in action. They got the students interested. They would go to fraternity parties and other popular night spots on Friday and ask the students if they were coming to the game and got them all pumped up. Majors had a a meeting at 8:00 am Monday morning inviting students to attend and he would
recap Saturday’s game with a Q & A, called Majors Monday. The attendance was amazing for that time of day. Point is they got involved with the students, which exited everyone.

Majors did the same with boosters. I was just graduated from Pitt when he arrived. He'd conduct meetings up at the old Log Cabin facility at UPJ during Pitt fall camp in the evenings after practice for local boosters. They were like an old revival meeting, only with Majors playing the role of the (football) preacher. "Pride and enthusiasm" he'd holler! I used to call Johnny Pitt's "football evangelist". They didn't pass the hat, but I bet they could have. Especially after getting a look at Tony Dorsett run during scrimmages on the practice field!

 

[Rezzo]

I think Gallagher is pretty much worthless. Talked a big game at first then disappeared. I understand he doesn't even attend games. What a turd.

Let’s not forget he hired Barnes who intern hired Stallings who is single handily destroying the basketball program

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Let’s not forget he hired Barnes who intern hired Stallings who is single handily destroying the basketball program

One of the Academic Elites who think football is to savage, dirty, loaded with male "bully's and eventually should be eliminated.

Mrs Buffett and I met two academic elite couples at a private club that we frequent at our favorite casino. Wow do they hate football!

Well he's doing his part in helping to kill Pitt sports especially football and basketball.

I guess at some point Pitt will focus on fencing, lacrosse, tennis, track, etc all those nice non contact sports.

 

[PittHOFs]

And again, you got any actual evidence that Pitt doesn’t care? Not just hunches and uninformed opinions
Would you have even started this thread if Pitt found the end zone at the end of the last game?

Evidence??? LOL! Yes I would have started the thread.......was going to after UNC but decided not to. Do you think a CEO of any organization wouldn't be taking heat for lackluster results after year 3.

 

[ThePanthers]

Paco can't see this because I'm blocked for disagreeing with him, but his continued insistence that Pitt is at the very bottom compared to its peers doesn't seem to be true. Look at the schools below (and only slightly above) Pitt in revenue. I think Pitt is the only program in the top 50 that doesn't have it's own stadium, by the way.

Source: Office of Postsecondary Education of the U.S. Department of Education 2016

Rank School TOTAL_ATHLETIC_REVENUE
1 The University of Texas at Austin $159,836,257.00
2 The University of Tennessee-Knoxville $132,846,324.00
3 The University of Alabama $128,746,318.00
4 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $119,410,808.00
5 University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus $113,320,434.00
6 Ohio State University-Main Campus $113,143,911.00
7 University of Wisconsin-Madison $109,235,661.00
8 University of Notre Dame $109,128,285.00
9 Auburn University $107,502,554.00
10 Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $107,019,182.00
11 University of Georgia $102,816,892.00
12 Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College $102,025,851.00
13 University of Florida $100,286,303.00
14 Florida State University $99,379,410.00
15 Texas A & M University-College Station $94,019,986.00
16 University of Arkansas $91,107,741.00
17 Michigan State University $89,216,749.00
18 University of Louisville $89,103,475.00
19 University of Washington-Seattle Campus $87,543,124.00
20 Duke University $87,461,047.00
21 University of Nebraska-Lincoln $85,406,756.00
22 Texas Christian University $83,508,027.00
23 Syracuse University $81,791,428.00
24 University of Oregon $80,217,971.00
25 University of Southern California $80,157,790.00
26 Stanford University $78,761,626.00
27 Baylor University $77,227,033.00
28 University of South Carolina-Columbia $76,026,352.00
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $73,585,867.00
30 University of California-Berkeley $72,999,967.00
31 University of Mississippi $71,872,509.00
32 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities $71,513,142.00
33 University of Iowa $71,431,059.00
34 University of Arizona $69,900,595.00
35 University of Kentucky $69,510,335.00
36 Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University $68,863,571.00
37 North Carolina State University at Raleigh $65,036,168.00
38 Clemson University $64,541,756.00
39 Oklahoma State University-Main Campus $63,684,724.00
40 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $62,691,533.00
41 University of Missouri-Columbia $62,136,516.00
42 Indiana University-Bloomington $59,860,087.00
43 University of California-Los Angeles $59,653,891.00
44 Vanderbilt University $59,088,706.00
45 University of Utah $59,025,945.00
46 Arizona State University-Tempe $58,267,583.00
47 Oregon State University $58,143,425.00
48 University of Maryland-College Park $56,843,305.00
49 Boston College $55,308,076.00
50 Iowa State University $55,260,283.00
51 University of Virginia-Main Campus $55,206,454.00
52 Rutgers University-New Brunswick $53,839,967.00
53 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign $53,829,284.00
54 Texas Tech University $53,331,078.00
55 University of Connecticut $52,823,409.00
56 Northwestern University $52,570,031.00
57 Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus $51,631,004.00
58 West Virginia University $51,152,401.00
59 Washington State University $50,630,197.00
60 University of Colorado Boulder $50,159,236.00
61 University of Miami $49,580,550.00
62 Brigham Young University-Provo $48,708,177.00
63 University of Kansas $48,704,087.00
64 Kansas State University $48,633,588.00
65 Mississippi State University $46,672,882.00
66 Southern Methodist University $44,927,020.00
67 Wake Forest University $43,876,927.00
68 Temple University $39,151,695.00
69 San Diego State University $37,901,310.00
70 University of Memphis $37,366,574.00
71 University of Central Florida $36,110,824.00
72 Purdue University-Main Campus $34,261,399.00
73 University of Tulsa $34,110,035.00
74 University of Houston $33,321,095.00
75 Villanova University $33,152,711.00
76 Marquette University $32,387,403.00
77 University of Cincinnati-Main Campus $32,177,264.00
78 Liberty University $32,161,588.00
79 University of Hawaii at Manoa $29,947,472.00
80 California State University-Fresno $29,789,223.00
81 East Carolina University $29,603,165.00
82 Rice University $29,590,484.00
83 Georgetown University $28,970,310.00
84 Colorado State University-Fort Collins $28,025,476.00
85 University of Massachusetts-Amherst $27,692,362.00
86 Boise State University $27,608,423.00
87 University of New Mexico-Main Campus $27,059,888.00
88 James Madison University $27,008,565.00
89 The University of Texas at El Paso $26,738,372.00
90 Old Dominion University $26,244,621.00
91 University of North Texas $25,589,486.00
92 Gonzaga University $25,435,369.00
93 Boston University $25,419,755.00

Don't know where you got that, but here is the USA TODAY link http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

It's completely different. The one you have says WVU makes $55M in revenue. The above says it's $105M. Considering the Big XII distributed $30 some Million alone makes me question your link.

 

[OriginalEther]

I kind of like the name Heather , but she has absolutely no P5 experience in the two major revenue areas .
I have no inside info , but I’d be willing to say she came at the right price , we’ll see how she manages a very difficult bb situation and if PN doesn’t turn the ship around next yr Fb becomes a real issue when there’s no home games against PSU and ND on theIr schedule in 19 to inflat season ticket sales . Very few people care what the volleyball and swim ( etc ) teams do , she’ll be measured by the bb and Fb teams success and the level of donations .
The Millers ,we’re really only talking about Archie , Sean was never leaving Az to come here and you might be right about Archie . Enfield is another story , he worked USC for a new deal increasing his pay from 1mill to 1.95 . That means Pitt was offering him nowhere near JDs numbers . ( what a surprise ) Pitt won’t pay to get a coach and when they move on from KS and PN you’ll see they’ll find coaches that won’t move the needle .

Regarding Lyke, I’m sure also, but with a much different level of cynicism. Pitt is not able or going to outbid and poach a coach, much less an athletic director, from a BCS school. The finances aren’t there. You’re looking an assistants, mid majors, or retreads when there’s a new opening
As for Enfield, yeah I was surprised at what USC was paying him. That said, I’m willing to bet he was quite willing to take less money to stay there than go to a place that thought it was too good for Jamie Dixon

 

[OriginalEther]

Evidence??? LOL! Yes I would have started the thread.......was going to after UNC but decided not to. Do you think a CEO of any organization wouldn't be taking heat for lackluster results after year 3.

Interesting. Still didn’t provide any
In contrast, an administration that didn’t care wouldn’t have worked to get Pitt into the ACC

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Paco can't see this because I'm blocked for disagreeing with him, but his continued insistence that Pitt is at the very bottom compared to its peers doesn't seem to be true. Look at the schools below (and only slightly above) Pitt in revenue. I think Pitt is the only program in the top 50 that doesn't have it's own stadium, by the way.

Source: Office of Postsecondary Education of the U.S. Department of Education 2016

Rank School TOTAL_ATHLETIC_REVENUE
1 The University of Texas at Austin $159,836,257.00
2 The University of Tennessee-Knoxville $132,846,324.00
3 The University of Alabama $128,746,318.00
4 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $119,410,808.00
5 University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus $113,320,434.00
6 Ohio State University-Main Campus $113,143,911.00
7 University of Wisconsin-Madison $109,235,661.00
8 University of Notre Dame $109,128,285.00
9 Auburn University $107,502,554.00
10 Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $107,019,182.00
11 University of Georgia $102,816,892.00
12 Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College $102,025,851.00
13 University of Florida $100,286,303.00
14 Florida State University $99,379,410.00
15 Texas A & M University-College Station $94,019,986.00
16 University of Arkansas $91,107,741.00
17 Michigan State University $89,216,749.00
18 University of Louisville $89,103,475.00
19 University of Washington-Seattle Campus $87,543,124.00
20 Duke University $87,461,047.00
21 University of Nebraska-Lincoln $85,406,756.00
22 Texas Christian University $83,508,027.00
23 Syracuse University $81,791,428.00
24 University of Oregon $80,217,971.00
25 University of Southern California $80,157,790.00
26 Stanford University $78,761,626.00
27 Baylor University $77,227,033.00
28 University of South Carolina-Columbia $76,026,352.00
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $73,585,867.00
30 University of California-Berkeley $72,999,967.00
31 University of Mississippi $71,872,509.00
32 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities $71,513,142.00
33 University of Iowa $71,431,059.00
34 University of Arizona $69,900,595.00
35 University of Kentucky $69,510,335.00
36 Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University $68,863,571.00
37 North Carolina State University at Raleigh $65,036,168.00
38 Clemson University $64,541,756.00
39 Oklahoma State University-Main Campus $63,684,724.00
40 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $62,691,533.00
41 University of Missouri-Columbia $62,136,516.00
42 Indiana University-Bloomington $59,860,087.00
43 University of California-Los Angeles $59,653,891.00
44 Vanderbilt University $59,088,706.00
45 University of Utah $59,025,945.00
46 Arizona State University-Tempe $58,267,583.00
47 Oregon State University $58,143,425.00
48 University of Maryland-College Park $56,843,305.00
49 Boston College $55,308,076.00
50 Iowa State University $55,260,283.00
51 University of Virginia-Main Campus $55,206,454.00
52 Rutgers University-New Brunswick $53,839,967.00
53 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign $53,829,284.00
54 Texas Tech University $53,331,078.00
55 University of Connecticut $52,823,409.00
56 Northwestern University $52,570,031.00
57 Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus $51,631,004.00
58 West Virginia University $51,152,401.00
59 Washington State University $50,630,197.00
60 University of Colorado Boulder $50,159,236.00
61 University of Miami $49,580,550.00
62 Brigham Young University-Provo $48,708,177.00
63 University of Kansas $48,704,087.00
64 Kansas State University $48,633,588.00
65 Mississippi State University $46,672,882.00
66 Southern Methodist University $44,927,020.00
67 Wake Forest University $43,876,927.00
68 Temple University $39,151,695.00
69 San Diego State University $37,901,310.00
70 University of Memphis $37,366,574.00
71 University of Central Florida $36,110,824.00
72 Purdue University-Main Campus $34,261,399.00
73 University of Tulsa $34,110,035.00
74 University of Houston $33,321,095.00
75 Villanova University $33,152,711.00
76 Marquette University $32,387,403.00
77 University of Cincinnati-Main Campus $32,177,264.00
78 Liberty University $32,161,588.00
79 University of Hawaii at Manoa $29,947,472.00
80 California State University-Fresno $29,789,223.00
81 East Carolina University $29,603,165.00
82 Rice University $29,590,484.00
83 Georgetown University $28,970,310.00
84 Colorado State University-Fort Collins $28,025,476.00
85 University of Massachusetts-Amherst $27,692,362.00
86 Boise State University $27,608,423.00
87 University of New Mexico-Main Campus $27,059,888.00
88 James Madison University $27,008,565.00
89 The University of Texas at El Paso $26,738,372.00
90 Old Dominion University $26,244,621.00
91 University of North Texas $25,589,486.00
92 Gonzaga University $25,435,369.00
93 Boston University $25,419,755.00

In fairness, I think that “being at the bottom” is only in reference to the other schools in the ACC. I’ve seen a few charts that verify that point: Pitt does rank at - or near - the bottom in the ACC.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Paco can't see this because I'm blocked for disagreeing with him, but his continued insistence that Pitt is at the very bottom compared to its peers doesn't seem to be true. Look at the schools below (and only slightly above) Pitt in revenue. I think Pitt is the only program in the top 50 that doesn't have it's own stadium, by the way.

Source: Office of Postsecondary Education of the U.S. Department of Education 2016

Rank School TOTAL_ATHLETIC_REVENUE
1 The University of Texas at Austin $159,836,257.00
2 The University of Tennessee-Knoxville $132,846,324.00
3 The University of Alabama $128,746,318.00
4 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $119,410,808.00
5 University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus $113,320,434.00
6 Ohio State University-Main Campus $113,143,911.00
7 University of Wisconsin-Madison $109,235,661.00
8 University of Notre Dame $109,128,285.00
9 Auburn University $107,502,554.00
10 Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $107,019,182.00
11 University of Georgia $102,816,892.00
12 Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College $102,025,851.00
13 University of Florida $100,286,303.00
14 Florida State University $99,379,410.00
15 Texas A & M University-College Station $94,019,986.00
16 University of Arkansas $91,107,741.00
17 Michigan State University $89,216,749.00
18 University of Louisville $89,103,475.00
19 University of Washington-Seattle Campus $87,543,124.00
20 Duke University $87,461,047.00
21 University of Nebraska-Lincoln $85,406,756.00
22 Texas Christian University $83,508,027.00
23 Syracuse University $81,791,428.00
24 University of Oregon $80,217,971.00
25 University of Southern California $80,157,790.00
26 Stanford University $78,761,626.00
27 Baylor University $77,227,033.00
28 University of South Carolina-Columbia $76,026,352.00
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $73,585,867.00
30 University of California-Berkeley $72,999,967.00
31 University of Mississippi $71,872,509.00
32 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities $71,513,142.00
33 University of Iowa $71,431,059.00
34 University of Arizona $69,900,595.00
35 University of Kentucky $69,510,335.00
36 Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University $68,863,571.00
37 North Carolina State University at Raleigh $65,036,168.00
38 Clemson University $64,541,756.00
39 Oklahoma State University-Main Campus $63,684,724.00
40 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $62,691,533.00
41 University of Missouri-Columbia $62,136,516.00
42 Indiana University-Bloomington $59,860,087.00
43 University of California-Los Angeles $59,653,891.00
44 Vanderbilt University $59,088,706.00
45 University of Utah $59,025,945.00
46 Arizona State University-Tempe $58,267,583.00
47 Oregon State University $58,143,425.00
48 University of Maryland-College Park $56,843,305.00
49 Boston College $55,308,076.00
50 Iowa State University $55,260,283.00
51 University of Virginia-Main Campus $55,206,454.00
52 Rutgers University-New Brunswick $53,839,967.00
53 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign $53,829,284.00
54 Texas Tech University $53,331,078.00
55 University of Connecticut $52,823,409.00
56 Northwestern University $52,570,031.00
57 Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus $51,631,004.00
58 West Virginia University $51,152,401.00
59 Washington State University $50,630,197.00
60 University of Colorado Boulder $50,159,236.00
61 University of Miami $49,580,550.00
62 Brigham Young University-Provo $48,708,177.00
63 University of Kansas $48,704,087.00
64 Kansas State University $48,633,588.00
65 Mississippi State University $46,672,882.00
66 Southern Methodist University $44,927,020.00
67 Wake Forest University $43,876,927.00
68 Temple University $39,151,695.00
69 San Diego State University $37,901,310.00
70 University of Memphis $37,366,574.00
71 University of Central Florida $36,110,824.00
72 Purdue University-Main Campus $34,261,399.00
73 University of Tulsa $34,110,035.00
74 University of Houston $33,321,095.00
75 Villanova University $33,152,711.00
76 Marquette University $32,387,403.00
77 University of Cincinnati-Main Campus $32,177,264.00
78 Liberty University $32,161,588.00
79 University of Hawaii at Manoa $29,947,472.00
80 California State University-Fresno $29,789,223.00
81 East Carolina University $29,603,165.00
82 Rice University $29,590,484.00
83 Georgetown University $28,970,310.00
84 Colorado State University-Fort Collins $28,025,476.00
85 University of Massachusetts-Amherst $27,692,362.00
86 Boise State University $27,608,423.00
87 University of New Mexico-Main Campus $27,059,888.00
88 James Madison University $27,008,565.00
89 The University of Texas at El Paso $26,738,372.00
90 Old Dominion University $26,244,621.00
91 University of North Texas $25,589,486.00
92 Gonzaga University $25,435,369.00
93 Boston University $25,419,755.00

Well, if it's on a message board and you found it on the internet, it must be true.

In case you missed the sarcasm, I doubt those rankings are even close to being correct. Moral of the story: what is posted on a message board and internet is probably not true more than it is true.

 

[PittMiamiRivalry]

Great job on the exaggeration. 50 years of general stupidity will turn people off. Does Pitt get a free pass on everything?? It WAS Pitt who pushed out Jock, Jackie & Jamie. Pitt chose to let the Stadium fall apart, then declared it no longer adequate. Pitt gave extended contracts to Foge, Willard, Evans and then let them go. Pitt gave that fluffy golden parachute to SP, then let him go, Pitt hired a retread to please a bum A.D. who was dying to leave Pitt. Did Pitt get a buyout from Corvallis?? Did Pitt get a full buyout after pushing our best hoops coach out the door? Did Jock Sutherland leave Pitt because he was treated well??
You're the one sounding like a knuckledragging yinzer.

Well stated. You reap what you sow

 

[Black_Man_Panther]

Don't know where you got that, but here is the USA TODAY link http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

It's completely different. The one you have says WVU makes $55M in revenue. The above says it's $105M. Considering the Big XII distributed $30 some Million alone makes me question your link.

Seriously? He provides stats from the US Dept of Education and you provide stats from the rag USA Today and have the balls to question the validity of his?? ROFLMAO!!

You realize Pitt isn't even on your "credible" USA Today list, right??

 

[ThePanthers]

Seriously? He provides stats from the US Dept of Education and you provide stats from the rag USA Today and have the balls to question the validity of his?? ROFLMAO!!

You realize Pitt isn't even on your "credible" USA Today list, right??

Pitt is a quasiprivate school not subject to public records request. Usa today got this from public records and tax returns. If you believe some of the other numbers you truly are a dumbass.

 

[ThePanthers]

Perfect example is Purdue. The one list states their total revenue is 34m. The big 10 distributed 33m that year to each school. So you are going to tell me purdue donations ticket revenue etc etc was less than a million. ROTFL HAHAHAHAHA.

 

[ThePanthers]

And kansas basketball makes less money than Pitt and fsu basketball etc. Hahahaha.

 

[HailtoPitt]

I made an error with the DoE data. The source is valid but I totaled on the wrong revenue field. My mistake. Pitt's total revenue is about $75M. That would put Pitt right between GT and Oregon State on the USA Today list.

I can try to repost an updated list soon.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

FWIW, here's an interesting article from THE PITT NEWS, April, 2016:

https://pittnews.com/article/107619/top-stories/pitt-aims-expand-donor-base/

 

[HailtoPitt]

2016 Total Athletic Revenue (There are 3 ACC schools below Pitt and Pitt is within $5 million of the 7 schools above it, including North Carolina)
*US Dept of Edu - Equity in Athletics

Rank School 2016TotalRevenue
1 The University of Texas at Austin $182,104,126.00
2 Ohio State University-Main Campus $169,904,847.00
3 The University of Alabama $164,005,589.00
4 University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus $150,371,578.00
5 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $146,219,589.00
6 Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College $141,456,764.00
7 Auburn University $140,070,592.00
8 The University of Tennessee-Knoxville $135,949,847.00
9 University of Notre Dame $134,211,095.00
10 University of Florida $134,033,664.00
11 Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $132,306,528.00
12 Texas A & M University-College Station $131,045,968.00
13 University of Wisconsin-Madison $130,045,544.00
14 University of Arkansas $127,316,374.00
15 University of Kentucky $124,006,908.00
16 University of Georgia $123,841,268.00
17 Florida State University $123,334,314.00
18 University of South Carolina-Columbia $122,331,092.00
19 University of Iowa $117,002,340.00
20 University of Louisville $112,146,501.00
21 Stanford University $112,036,255.00
22 University of Nebraska-Lincoln $109,967,175.00
23 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities $107,705,479.00
24 University of Washington-Seattle Campus $107,154,560.00
25 University of Southern California $106,195,078.00
26 Michigan State University $100,914,623.00
27 University of Virginia-Main Campus $100,632,835.00
28 University of California-Los Angeles $98,913,023.00
29 University of Mississippi $98,377,760.00
30 Clemson University $95,800,326.00
31 University of Kansas $94,697,418.00
32 University of Maryland-College Park $94,101,697.00
33 Indiana University-Bloomington $93,938,599.00
34 Texas Christian University $93,259,382.00
35 University of Oregon $92,375,046.00
36 Arizona State University-Tempe $92,146,148.00
37 Duke University $91,971,836.00
38 University of Missouri-Columbia $91,573,174.00
39 West Virginia University $91,412,352.00
40 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $90,969,518.00
41 Baylor University $90,769,041.00
42 Oklahoma State University-Main Campus $90,049,297.00
43 University of Miami $85,615,972.00
44 Mississippi State University $84,564,899.00
45 University of California-Berkeley $84,200,594.00
46 Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University $84,064,779.00
47 Syracuse University $82,676,041.00
48 University of Arizona $81,279,425.00
49 North Carolina State University at Raleigh $80,225,029.00
50 University of Connecticut $79,267,924.00
51 Rutgers University-New Brunswick $78,845,894.00
52 Vanderbilt University $78,793,574.00
53 Purdue University-Main Campus $78,517,673.00
54 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign $78,395,389.00
55 Iowa State University $78,355,500.00
56 Kansas State University $77,936,660.00
57 Northwestern University $77,906,464.00
58 Oregon State University $77,667,685.00
59 University of Colorado Boulder $77,276,890.00
60 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $75,273,117.00
61 Texas Tech University $72,750,020.00
62 Boston College $71,314,082.00
63 Washington State University $71,285,725.00
64 University of Utah $70,346,405.00
65 Brigham Young University-Provo $62,563,279.00
66 Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus $62,360,693.00
67 Wake Forest University $62,053,971.00
68 Southern Methodist University $56,909,290.00
69 Tulane University of Louisiana $53,141,211.00
70 University of Central Florida $52,317,442.00
71 University of Houston $50,886,777.00
72 Temple University $50,886,490.00
73 University of Memphis $49,849,343.00
74 University of South Florida-Main Campus $48,405,192.00
75 San Diego State University $46,683,110.00
76 Liberty University $45,188,542.00
77 University of Cincinnati-Main Campus $43,367,493.00
78 East Carolina University $43,045,337.00
79 University of Hawaii at Manoa $41,997,257.00
80 California State University-Fresno $41,892,171.00
81 Yale University $41,837,429.00
82 University of Pennsylvania $41,834,643.00
83 James Madison University $41,473,503.00
84 University of Tulsa $40,465,787.00
85 Old Dominion University $39,933,872.00
86 Villanova University $39,516,020.00
87 University of Nevada-Las Vegas $39,010,843.00
88 Colorado State University-Fort Collins $38,150,063.00
89 Georgetown University $37,745,393.00
90 Rice University $36,788,388.00
91 University of Massachusetts-Amherst $36,548,826.00
92 Boise State University $36,099,264.00
93 St John's University-New York $35,889,045.00
94 University of Wyoming $35,450,681.00
95 University of New Mexico-Main Campus $35,338,508.00
96 University of Akron Main Campus $35,125,592.00
97 University of Denver $34,188,708.00
98 Texas State University $33,912,596.00
99 Utah State University $33,725,099.00
100 University of North Carolina at Charlotte $32,513,763.00
101 Marquette University $32,401,818.00
102 University of Alabama at Birmingham $32,304,934.00
103 Lehigh University $32,050,806.00
104 University at Buffalo $32,008,011.00
105 Miami University-Oxford $32,007,769.00
106 Ohio University-Main Campus $31,882,729.00
107 Western Michigan University $31,799,976.00
108 Virginia Commonwealth University $31,073,227.00
109 University of North Texas $30,851,453.00
110 University of Delaware $30,851,418.00
111 Providence College $30,751,094.00
112 Fordham University $30,595,563.00
113 Middle Tennessee State University $30,518,142.00
114 Boston University $30,184,685.00
115 University of Nevada-Reno $30,096,439.00
116 Central Michigan University $29,618,926.00
117 University of Toledo $29,546,057.00
118 George Washington University $29,489,671.00
119 Columbia University in the City of New York $29,211,622.00
120 Marshall University $29,205,925.00
121 University of New Hampshire-Main Campus $29,173,087.00
122 University of Richmond $28,990,166.00
123 Florida International University $28,945,256.00
124 Western Kentucky University $28,607,583.00
125 Northeastern University $28,574,210.00
126 The University of Texas at El Paso $28,119,525.00
127 Eastern Michigan University $28,057,985.00
128 The University of Texas at San Antonio $27,822,072.00
129 Georgia State University $27,778,304.00
130 Gonzaga University $27,655,590.00
131 University of California-Davis $27,626,918.00
132 San Jose State University $27,566,898.00
133 Dartmouth College $27,496,614.00
134 Kent State University at Kent $27,470,580.00
135 Northern Illinois University $27,329,629.00
136 Wichita State University $27,252,700.00
137 Ball State University $27,226,310.00
138 College of the Holy Cross $26,921,990.00
139 Furman University $26,906,149.00
140 Quinnipiac University $26,763,282.00
141 Florida Atlantic University $26,706,597.00
142 Princeton University $26,641,551.00
143 Cornell University $26,622,174.00
144 College of William and Mary $26,454,940.00
145 Bucknell University $25,419,423.00
146 University of Rhode Island $25,371,761.00
147 North Dakota State University-Main Campus $25,278,776.00
148 California State University-Sacramento $25,108,877.00
149 New Mexico State University-Main Campus $25,106,926.00
150 Harvard University $24,995,114.00
151 University of Dayton $24,823,879.00
152 Elon University $24,581,787.00
153 Stony Brook University $24,571,453.00
154 Colgate University $24,506,850.00
155 University of North Dakota $24,505,156.00
156 DePaul University $24,462,727.00
157 University of South Alabama $24,452,664.00
158 Illinois State University $23,762,675.00
159 Bowling Green State University-Main Campus $23,719,853.00
160 Southern Illinois University-Carbondale $23,524,171.00
161 Sacred Heart University $23,523,477.00
162 University of San Diego $23,517,053.00
163 Santa Clara University $23,482,995.00
164 University of Southern Mississippi $23,165,362.00
165 University of Louisiana at Lafayette $23,108,123.00
166 Seton Hall University $22,947,932.00
167 Loyola Marymount University $22,840,039.00
168 Coastal Carolina University $22,660,869.00
169 California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo $22,588,703.00
170 Appalachian State University $22,402,021.00
171 Creighton University $22,160,598.00
172 Towson University $21,981,868.00
173 Grand Canyon University $21,845,776.00
174 Louisiana Tech University $21,702,557.00
175 Troy University $21,639,113.00
176 Saint Louis University $21,609,260.00
177 University of the Pacific $21,529,061.00
178 Butler University $21,313,343.00
179 Saint Joseph's University $21,281,216.00
180 Monmouth University $21,225,854.00
181 Hofstra University $21,172,893.00
182 Brown University $21,009,586.00
183 Drexel University $20,996,743.00
184 Kennesaw State University $20,987,811.00
185 University of Nebraska at Omaha $20,984,281.00
186 SUNY at Albany $20,776,750.00
187 California State University-Long Beach $20,746,815.00
188 The University of Montana $20,231,317.00
189 Lafayette College $20,190,000.00
190 George Mason University $20,086,481.00
191 University of Idaho $20,067,832.00
192 University of San Francisco $19,833,080.00
193 Samford University $19,707,788.00
194 Bacone College $19,241,273.00
195 Duquesne University $19,181,860.00
196 Montana State University $18,910,007.00
197 Sam Houston State University $18,867,105.00
198 University of Maine $18,817,295.00
199 Pepperdine University $18,734,117.00
200 Fairfield University $18,721,779.00

 

[HailtoPitt]

2016 Total Football Revenue. Revenue like conference payouts are considered athletic revenue, not football revenue, so a program like Purdue ranks low here, but surpasses many ACC programs because our deal isn't nearly as good as some other conference rights deals (the ACC has the most schools and somehow the least in overall conference tv revenue), even though it is touted otherwise on here.

Rank School 2016FootballRevenue
1 The University of Texas at Austin $127,465,311.00
2 The University of Tennessee-Knoxville $107,103,765.00
3 The University of Alabama $103,870,999.00
4 University of Notre Dame $98,532,894.00
5 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $97,149,706.00
6 University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus $94,142,098.00
7 Auburn University $92,537,433.00
8 University of Georgia $87,613,126.00
9 Ohio State University-Main Campus $86,646,061.00
10 Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College $85,741,919.00
11 University of Florida $83,761,070.00
12 Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $75,462,597.00
13 Texas A & M University-College Station $73,700,887.00
14 University of Wisconsin-Madison $71,220,684.00
15 University of Washington-Seattle Campus $69,134,064.00
16 University of Arkansas $68,970,599.00
17 University of Oregon $66,576,139.00
18 University of Nebraska-Lincoln $65,012,080.00
19 Michigan State University $64,661,163.00
20 University of South Carolina-Columbia $59,629,815.00
21 University of Mississippi $56,823,049.00
22 University of Iowa $56,551,411.00
23 Florida State University $55,708,828.00
24 Texas Christian University $52,009,661.00
25 University of Southern California $51,240,237.00
26 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities $49,363,392.00
27 Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University $48,433,646.00
28 Oklahoma State University-Main Campus $47,760,618.00
29 University of Utah $47,685,530.00
30 Clemson University $45,930,086.00
31 Stanford University $43,744,639.00
32 Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus $43,605,746.00
33 Arizona State University-Tempe $42,892,151.00
34 Texas Tech University $42,485,160.00
35 Iowa State University $41,789,111.00
36 University of California-Berkeley $41,527,030.00
37 University of Arizona $41,388,363.00
38 University of Louisville $40,568,726.00
39 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $40,523,499.00
40 University of Kentucky $39,714,834.00
41 North Carolina State University at Raleigh $39,539,832.00
42 University of California-Los Angeles $38,548,482.00
43 Kansas State University $38,447,972.00
44 Baylor University $38,305,937.00
45 Syracuse University $38,152,217.00
46 University of Colorado Boulder $37,544,684.00
47 Northwestern University $36,212,907.00
48 Mississippi State University $35,471,847.00
49 Indiana University-Bloomington $35,213,709.00
50 Washington State University $34,457,679.00
51 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $34,336,998.00
52 University of Miami $34,217,378.00
53 Oregon State University $32,941,918.00
54 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign $32,910,979.00
55 Duke University $31,795,916.00
56 University of Missouri-Columbia $30,358,216.00
57 University of Kansas $30,245,133.00
58 University of Maryland-College Park $30,071,434.00
59 University of Virginia-Main Campus $27,931,475.00
60 Boston College $26,991,209.00
61 Vanderbilt University $26,782,777.00
62 Brigham Young University-Provo $25,469,619.00
63 Rutgers University-New Brunswick $25,236,282.00
64 University of Central Florida $22,377,609.00
65 Boise State University $20,321,986.00
66 Wake Forest University $19,922,855.00
67 West Virginia University $19,300,894.00
68 Temple University $18,842,502.00
69 Purdue University-Main Campus $18,681,315.00
70 University of Connecticut $17,673,179.00
71 Southern Methodist University $17,267,570.00
72 University of Houston $16,180,918.00
73 University of Memphis $14,814,121.00
74 San Diego State University $14,253,337.00
75 University of Cincinnati-Main Campus $13,848,429.00
76 Colorado State University-Fort Collins $13,446,340.00
77 University of Tulsa $13,090,492.00
78 University of North Texas $12,763,221.00
79 East Carolina University $12,264,915.00
80 University of Hawaii at Manoa $11,979,786.00
81 Rice University $11,650,472.00
82 The University of Texas at El Paso $11,636,472.00
83 California State University-Fresno $11,381,458.00
84 University of Wyoming $10,714,937.00
85 Liberty University $10,681,263.00
86 Middle Tennessee State University $10,167,835.00
87 University of South Florida-Main Campus $9,779,081.00
88 University of Nevada-Reno $9,736,900.00
89 Old Dominion University $9,634,722.00
90 Ohio University-Main Campus $9,616,278.00
91 Florida International University $9,454,845.00
92 University of Nevada-Las Vegas $9,359,657.00
93 University of Toledo $9,313,584.00
94 Marshall University $9,277,508.00
95 Northern Illinois University $9,202,985.00
96 University of New Mexico-Main Campus $9,137,178.00
97 University of South Alabama $9,066,874.00
98 James Madison University $8,998,446.00
99 The University of Texas at San Antonio $8,782,297.00
100 University of Southern Mississippi $8,642,689.00
101 Western Michigan University $8,577,674.00
102 University of Massachusetts-Amherst $8,556,416.00
103 The University of Montana $8,517,006.00
104 University of North Carolina at Charlotte $8,362,740.00
105 Utah State University $8,288,817.00
106 San Jose State University $8,098,929.00
107 Montana State University $7,945,447.00
108 Florida Atlantic University $7,817,872.00
109 Georgia Southern University $7,799,526.00
110 Western Kentucky University $7,648,174.00
111 Miami University-Oxford $7,613,028.00
112 Louisiana Tech University $7,571,143.00
113 University at Buffalo $7,539,610.00
114 Troy University $7,534,913.00
115 University of Akron Main Campus $7,473,209.00
116 Texas State University $7,457,817.00
117 University of Louisiana at Lafayette $7,424,084.00
118 Eastern Michigan University $7,365,900.00
119 Ball State University $7,220,032.00
120 New Mexico State University-Main Campus $7,141,189.00
121 Furman University $6,989,494.00
122 University of Idaho $6,913,838.00
123 Arkansas State University-Main Campus $6,864,360.00
124 University of Richmond $6,794,504.00
125 Bowling Green State University-Main Campus $6,754,237.00
126 Appalachian State University $6,630,031.00
127 Villanova University $6,566,982.00
128 University of Delaware $6,564,268.00
129 College of William and Mary $6,507,909.00
130 Citadel Military College of South Carolina $6,333,882.00
131 Central Michigan University $6,274,563.00
132 Georgia State University $6,237,189.00
133 Kent State University at Kent $6,139,482.00
134 Fordham University $6,003,614.00
135 Coastal Carolina University $5,933,002.00
136 Colgate University $5,628,724.00
137 Lafayette College $5,622,993.00
138 Bethune-Cookman University $5,544,310.00
139 Samford University $5,376,738.00
140 Elon University $5,317,063.00
141 College of the Holy Cross $5,186,151.00
142 University of Louisiana at Monroe $5,158,578.00
143 Alabama State University $5,131,957.00
144 Lehigh University $4,953,213.00
145 University of New Hampshire-Main Campus $4,820,879.00
146 Mercer University $4,701,680.00
147 Eastern Washington University $4,695,179.00
148 North Dakota State University-Main Campus $4,647,923.00
149 Bucknell University $4,594,032.00
150 Dartmouth College $4,591,980.00
151 Wofford College $4,567,884.00
152 Monmouth University $4,546,862.00
153 University of California-Davis $4,478,087.00
154 Stony Brook University $4,400,383.00
155 SUNY at Albany $4,391,299.00
156 Eastern Kentucky University $4,359,268.00
157 University of Maine $4,300,643.00
158 University of the Incarnate Word $4,284,197.00
159 Towson University $4,255,172.00
160 Sam Houston State University $4,191,660.00
161 Portland State University $4,132,357.00
162 Jacksonville State University $4,131,276.00
163 University of Rhode Island $4,112,714.00
164 Charleston Southern University $4,104,535.00
165 Illinois State University $4,062,137.00
166 Presbyterian College $4,054,502.00
167 University of North Dakota $4,019,362.00
168 Lamar University $3,985,871.00
169 Northern Arizona University $3,979,369.00
170 The University of Tennessee-Chattanooga $3,971,229.00
171 Howard University $3,958,380.00
172 Youngstown State University $3,949,953.00
173 Indiana State University $3,896,248.00
174 Southern Illinois University-Carbondale $3,834,721.00
175 Southeastern Louisiana University $3,829,593.00
176 Tennessee State University $3,814,014.00
177 Columbia University in the City of New York $3,790,666.00
178 Houston Baptist University $3,718,590.00
179 Austin Peay State University $3,702,559.00
180 Morgan State University $3,696,999.00
181 University of Northern Iowa $3,631,109.00
182 North Carolina Central University $3,589,028.00
183 Grambling State University $3,577,463.00
184 Stephen F Austin State University $3,572,996.00
185 California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo $3,571,553.00
186 Bryant University $3,568,165.00
187 Missouri State University-Springfield $3,561,150.00
188 Tennessee Technological University $3,553,617.00
189 Kennesaw State University $3,519,293.00
190 Yale University $3,462,163.00
191 University of Northern Colorado $3,457,618.00
192 Hampton University $3,450,292.00
193 Virginia Military Institute $3,439,684.00
194 Gardner-Webb University $3,434,841.00
195 University of South Dakota $3,415,555.00
196 Murray State University $3,388,508.00
197 Abilene Christian University $3,388,489.00
198 Weber State University $3,373,651.00
199 Southern Utah University $3,364,710.00
200 McNeese State University $3,333,792.00

 

[NTOP]

And again, you got any actual evidence that Pitt doesn’t care? Not just hunches and uninformed opinions
Would you have even started this thread if Pitt found the end zone at the end of the last game?

Proof is in the pudding. Two possibilities:
1. Pitt's bigwigs don't care about athletics...

or..

2. Pitt has been grossly negligent in managing athletics.


Either way, we are at the bottom of the list. My guess is it will not change.

 

[ThePanthers]

2016 Total Athletic Revenue (There are 3 ACC schools below Pitt and Pitt is within $5 million of the 7 schools above it, including North Carolina)
*US Dept of Edu - Equity in Athletics

Rank School 2016TotalRevenue
1 The University of Texas at Austin $182,104,126.00
2 Ohio State University-Main Campus $169,904,847.00
3 The University of Alabama $164,005,589.00
4 University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus $150,371,578.00
5 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $146,219,589.00
6 Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College $141,456,764.00
7 Auburn University $140,070,592.00
8 The University of Tennessee-Knoxville $135,949,847.00
9 University of Notre Dame $134,211,095.00
10 University of Florida $134,033,664.00
11 Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $132,306,528.00
12 Texas A & M University-College Station $131,045,968.00
13 University of Wisconsin-Madison $130,045,544.00
14 University of Arkansas $127,316,374.00
15 University of Kentucky $124,006,908.00
16 University of Georgia $123,841,268.00
17 Florida State University $123,334,314.00
18 University of South Carolina-Columbia $122,331,092.00
19 University of Iowa $117,002,340.00
20 University of Louisville $112,146,501.00
21 Stanford University $112,036,255.00
22 University of Nebraska-Lincoln $109,967,175.00
23 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities $107,705,479.00
24 University of Washington-Seattle Campus $107,154,560.00
25 University of Southern California $106,195,078.00
26 Michigan State University $100,914,623.00
27 University of Virginia-Main Campus $100,632,835.00
28 University of California-Los Angeles $98,913,023.00
29 University of Mississippi $98,377,760.00
30 Clemson University $95,800,326.00
31 University of Kansas $94,697,418.00
32 University of Maryland-College Park $94,101,697.00
33 Indiana University-Bloomington $93,938,599.00
34 Texas Christian University $93,259,382.00
35 University of Oregon $92,375,046.00
36 Arizona State University-Tempe $92,146,148.00
37 Duke University $91,971,836.00
38 University of Missouri-Columbia $91,573,174.00
39 West Virginia University $91,412,352.00
40 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $90,969,518.00
41 Baylor University $90,769,041.00
42 Oklahoma State University-Main Campus $90,049,297.00
43 University of Miami $85,615,972.00
44 Mississippi State University $84,564,899.00
45 University of California-Berkeley $84,200,594.00
46 Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University $84,064,779.00
47 Syracuse University $82,676,041.00
48 University of Arizona $81,279,425.00
49 North Carolina State University at Raleigh $80,225,029.00
50 University of Connecticut $79,267,924.00
51 Rutgers University-New Brunswick $78,845,894.00
52 Vanderbilt University $78,793,574.00
53 Purdue University-Main Campus $78,517,673.00
54 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign $78,395,389.00
55 Iowa State University $78,355,500.00
56 Kansas State University $77,936,660.00
57 Northwestern University $77,906,464.00
58 Oregon State University $77,667,685.00
59 University of Colorado Boulder $77,276,890.00
60 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $75,273,117.00
61 Texas Tech University $72,750,020.00
62 Boston College $71,314,082.00
63 Washington State University $71,285,725.00
64 University of Utah $70,346,405.00
65 Brigham Young University-Provo $62,563,279.00
66 Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus $62,360,693.00
67 Wake Forest University $62,053,971.00
68 Southern Methodist University $56,909,290.00
69 Tulane University of Louisiana $53,141,211.00
70 University of Central Florida $52,317,442.00
71 University of Houston $50,886,777.00
72 Temple University $50,886,490.00
73 University of Memphis $49,849,343.00
74 University of South Florida-Main Campus $48,405,192.00
75 San Diego State University $46,683,110.00
76 Liberty University $45,188,542.00
77 University of Cincinnati-Main Campus $43,367,493.00
78 East Carolina University $43,045,337.00
79 University of Hawaii at Manoa $41,997,257.00
80 California State University-Fresno $41,892,171.00
81 Yale University $41,837,429.00
82 University of Pennsylvania $41,834,643.00
83 James Madison University $41,473,503.00
84 University of Tulsa $40,465,787.00
85 Old Dominion University $39,933,872.00
86 Villanova University $39,516,020.00
87 University of Nevada-Las Vegas $39,010,843.00
88 Colorado State University-Fort Collins $38,150,063.00
89 Georgetown University $37,745,393.00
90 Rice University $36,788,388.00
91 University of Massachusetts-Amherst $36,548,826.00
92 Boise State University $36,099,264.00
93 St John's University-New York $35,889,045.00
94 University of Wyoming $35,450,681.00
95 University of New Mexico-Main Campus $35,338,508.00
96 University of Akron Main Campus $35,125,592.00
97 University of Denver $34,188,708.00
98 Texas State University $33,912,596.00
99 Utah State University $33,725,099.00
100 University of North Carolina at Charlotte $32,513,763.00
101 Marquette University $32,401,818.00
102 University of Alabama at Birmingham $32,304,934.00
103 Lehigh University $32,050,806.00
104 University at Buffalo $32,008,011.00
105 Miami University-Oxford $32,007,769.00
106 Ohio University-Main Campus $31,882,729.00
107 Western Michigan University $31,799,976.00
108 Virginia Commonwealth University $31,073,227.00
109 University of North Texas $30,851,453.00
110 University of Delaware $30,851,418.00
111 Providence College $30,751,094.00
112 Fordham University $30,595,563.00
113 Middle Tennessee State University $30,518,142.00
114 Boston University $30,184,685.00
115 University of Nevada-Reno $30,096,439.00
116 Central Michigan University $29,618,926.00
117 University of Toledo $29,546,057.00
118 George Washington University $29,489,671.00
119 Columbia University in the City of New York $29,211,622.00
120 Marshall University $29,205,925.00
121 University of New Hampshire-Main Campus $29,173,087.00
122 University of Richmond $28,990,166.00
123 Florida International University $28,945,256.00
124 Western Kentucky University $28,607,583.00
125 Northeastern University $28,574,210.00
126 The University of Texas at El Paso $28,119,525.00
127 Eastern Michigan University $28,057,985.00
128 The University of Texas at San Antonio $27,822,072.00
129 Georgia State University $27,778,304.00
130 Gonzaga University $27,655,590.00
131 University of California-Davis $27,626,918.00
132 San Jose State University $27,566,898.00
133 Dartmouth College $27,496,614.00
134 Kent State University at Kent $27,470,580.00
135 Northern Illinois University $27,329,629.00
136 Wichita State University $27,252,700.00
137 Ball State University $27,226,310.00
138 College of the Holy Cross $26,921,990.00
139 Furman University $26,906,149.00
140 Quinnipiac University $26,763,282.00
141 Florida Atlantic University $26,706,597.00
142 Princeton University $26,641,551.00
143 Cornell University $26,622,174.00
144 College of William and Mary $26,454,940.00
145 Bucknell University $25,419,423.00
146 University of Rhode Island $25,371,761.00
147 North Dakota State University-Main Campus $25,278,776.00
148 California State University-Sacramento $25,108,877.00
149 New Mexico State University-Main Campus $25,106,926.00
150 Harvard University $24,995,114.00
151 University of Dayton $24,823,879.00
152 Elon University $24,581,787.00
153 Stony Brook University $24,571,453.00
154 Colgate University $24,506,850.00
155 University of North Dakota $24,505,156.00
156 DePaul University $24,462,727.00
157 University of South Alabama $24,452,664.00
158 Illinois State University $23,762,675.00
159 Bowling Green State University-Main Campus $23,719,853.00
160 Southern Illinois University-Carbondale $23,524,171.00
161 Sacred Heart University $23,523,477.00
162 University of San Diego $23,517,053.00
163 Santa Clara University $23,482,995.00
164 University of Southern Mississippi $23,165,362.00
165 University of Louisiana at Lafayette $23,108,123.00
166 Seton Hall University $22,947,932.00
167 Loyola Marymount University $22,840,039.00
168 Coastal Carolina University $22,660,869.00
169 California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo $22,588,703.00
170 Appalachian State University $22,402,021.00
171 Creighton University $22,160,598.00
172 Towson University $21,981,868.00
173 Grand Canyon University $21,845,776.00
174 Louisiana Tech University $21,702,557.00
175 Troy University $21,639,113.00
176 Saint Louis University $21,609,260.00
177 University of the Pacific $21,529,061.00
178 Butler University $21,313,343.00
179 Saint Joseph's University $21,281,216.00
180 Monmouth University $21,225,854.00
181 Hofstra University $21,172,893.00
182 Brown University $21,009,586.00
183 Drexel University $20,996,743.00
184 Kennesaw State University $20,987,811.00
185 University of Nebraska at Omaha $20,984,281.00
186 SUNY at Albany $20,776,750.00
187 California State University-Long Beach $20,746,815.00
188 The University of Montana $20,231,317.00
189 Lafayette College $20,190,000.00
190 George Mason University $20,086,481.00
191 University of Idaho $20,067,832.00
192 University of San Francisco $19,833,080.00
193 Samford University $19,707,788.00
194 Bacone College $19,241,273.00
195 Duquesne University $19,181,860.00
196 Montana State University $18,910,007.00
197 Sam Houston State University $18,867,105.00
198 University of Maine $18,817,295.00
199 Pepperdine University $18,734,117.00
200 Fairfield University $18,721,779.00

UNC is $15M above Pitt.

This basically shows we are towards the bottom of the P5 revenues. Can you strip out what the school subsidizes?

 

[vegasgreed]

We're not at the bottom.

Our management sucks, they make really bad decisions and they are ok with that. Again, the proof is in the pudding. You have no proof.

UNC is $15M above Pitt.

This basically shows we are towards the bottom of the P5 revenues. Can you strip out what the school subsidizes?

 

[HailtoPitt]

UNC is $15M above Pitt.

This basically shows we are towards the bottom of the P5 revenues. Can you strip out what the school subsidizes?

I meant to say NC State.

 

[ThePanthers]

We're not at the bottom.

Our management sucks, they make really bad decisions and they are ok with that. Again, the proof is in the pudding. You have no proof.

HAHAHA. Yet, the numbers show we are 60 out of 66 P5 schools. If that isn't towards the bottom I don't know what is. The other question is, how much is the subsidy those others schools are putting in vs Pitt. Pitt is towards the top. Because those subsidies are part of the revenue numbers listed.

It's more difficult to manage when you are have a tight budget vs your peers.

 

[ThePanthers]

I meant to say NC State.

What is Pitt's overall expenses for 2016. I'm just interested.

PS - thanks for pulling this stuff.

 

[chethejet]

Pitt relative to like and kind programs reflects where Pitt is. They benefit from ACC and potential ACC network revenue and have a lease at Heinz that is very cheap. Pitt has a low cost venue that is in fact better than 90% of college programs. The problem is the venue is to large except for ND, PSU and probably WVU. BB is a disaster and I see no real improvement yet it still has a better potential as college BB in this area has zero competition as a sport. In summary, Pitt has resources to be OK. Unless some lighting money appears or Pitt gets lucky, Pitt simply is not a player locally in athletics. Pitts demand in football is 40k give or take. Not the worst, but the venue has economic benefits but not visually.

 

[DiehardPanther]

The money that was WASTED on Pederson should have been given to Dixon and Narduzzi for better assistants. Pitt mismanages the $ they do have.

 

[HailtoPitt]

HAHAHA. Yet, the numbers show we are 60 out of 66 P5 schools. If that isn't towards the bottom I don't know what is. The other question is, how much is the subsidy those others schools are putting in vs Pitt. Pitt is towards the top. Because those subsidies are part of the revenue numbers listed.

It's more difficult to manage when you are have a tight budget vs your peers.

I'm not sure if that Doe data keeps track of the subsidize. It is just revenue. There are ways to figure it out, however.

However, part of the point is that Pitt's administration has continually dropped the ball so of course revenue would be lower (though still higher than BC, Wake and GT, all have made it to the ACC Championship Game.)

 

[vegasgreed]

Whats next, you'll tell everyone that Gallagher didn't wreck the basketball program with his Barnes and Stallings hires.

HAHAHA. Yet, the numbers show we are 60 out of 66 P5 schools. If that isn't towards the bottom I don't know what is. The other question is, how much is the subsidy those others schools are putting in vs Pitt. Pitt is towards the top. Because those subsidies are part of the revenue numbers listed.

It's more difficult to manage when you are have a tight budget vs your peers.

 

[ThePanthers]

The money that was WASTED on Pederson should have been given to Dixon and Narduzzi for better assistants. Pitt mismanages the $ they do have.

Most programs have errors they need to fix. It's not just a Pitt thing.

 

[DiehardPanther]

Most programs have errors they need to fix. It's not just a Pitt thing.

I could go way back, but let’s just go with the last 13 years.

1) Nudging Walt out the door, and not providing more $ for assistants.

2) Nudging Wanny out the door, and being so damn cheap that they wouldn’t even pay for basic remodeling.

3) Paying a consulting firm to hire a woman beater in Haywood.

4) Making financial promises to Graham and then not following through.

5) WASTING $ on a golden parachute for Pederson.

6) Opening the door for Dixon to leave.

7) Hiring Stallings

 

[Jpripper88]

Considering Pitt won 8 games 2 years in a row under Narduzzi and fans still didn't show up probably says otherwise. The fickle fans are always moving the bar.

Get rid of Steve P and we'll donate!
Get rid of Block PITT and we'll donate!
Win 8 games and we'll donate!
Wait, you did all of that, build an on campus stadium and we'll donate!

If they built an on campus stadium and won 10 games a year, then it would be that they'd have to go undefeated.

Winning 8 games is an average year for a P5 program. Having that as your outlier accomplishment seasons don't cut it. This year we are going 4-8 and our ceiling for next year is likely 6-6, with a pretty solid chance we are 4-8, again. So, let's even go out on a limb and say we go 7-6 next year. That means we will have been 27-24 under HCPN. That is bad. That is below average. That doesn't gain fans. Pitt is in a situation, which they created, where they need to build the fanbase, not maintain it. You can't do that by being below average.

The people moving the bar are the folks who have settled for mediocrity. They think it is still 1980 and winning 8 games is an accomplishment. It isn't. The bar has been pushed up because the sport now gives you an extra regular season game. It gives you games against mid majors and FCS opponents. It gives you a conference championship. It gives you a bowl game for practically every P5 team. Winning 8 in 1980 is like winning 10 now. You can't hold the standards of the past and apply them to the current landscape.

 

[Jpripper88]

And again, you got any actual evidence that Pitt doesn’t care? Not just hunches and uninformed opinions
Would you have even started this thread if Pitt found the end zone at the end of the last game?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Panthers_football

 

[ThePanthers]

Winning 8 games is an average year for a P5 program. Having that as your outlier accomplishment seasons don't cut it. This year we are going 4-8 and our ceiling for next year is likely 6-6, with a pretty solid chance we are 4-8, again. So, let's even go out on a limb and say we go 7-6 next year. That means we will have been 27-24 under HCPN. That is bad. That is below average. That doesn't gain fans. Pitt is in a situation, which they created, where they need to build the fanbase, not maintain it. You can't do that by being below average.

The people moving the bar are the folks who have settled for mediocrity. They think it is still 1980 and winning 8 games is an accomplishment. It isn't. The bar has been pushed up because the sport now gives you an extra regular season game. It gives you games against mid majors and FCS opponents. It gives you a conference championship. It gives you a bowl game for practically every P5 team. Winning 8 in 1980 is like winning 10 now. You can't hold the standards of the past and apply them to the current landscape.

OK, then we should schedule an FCS game and 3 mid majors to pad the wins. If that is all that matters.

But then the fans won't show up because they'll say the schedule sucks.

 

[ThePanthers]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Panthers_football

That says Pitt has 9 national championships and is in the top 20 all time wins. That doesn't seem to show they don't care.

 

[Pitt79]

That says Pitt has 9 national championships and is in the top 20 all time wins. That doesn't seem to show they don't care.

Most of that is over 40 years ago.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

We definitely went through a not caring period. 1940-1973 or so.
Now we're into the somewhat caring but incompetent period. Maybe 2005 to the present. Very different!

 

[ThePanthers]

Most of that is over 40 years ago.

Well, some posters are going back as far as 100 years saying Pitt never cared.

 

[OriginalEther]

The money that was WASTED on Pederson should have been given to Dixon and Narduzzi for better assistants. Pitt mismanages the $ they do have.

Hmm, you would think Pitt was paying Pederson $2 million a year or something. Hell, Narduzzi wasn’t here for Pedersons tenure
What’s really funny is I don’t remember all this Woe Is Us crap when Pederson was the AD. I thought getting rid of him was supposed to fix everything?

 

[DiehardPanther]

Hmm, you would think Pitt was paying Pederson $2 million a year or something. Hell, Narduzzi wasn’t here for Pedersons tenure
What’s really funny is I don’t remember all this Woe Is Us crap when Pederson was the AD. I thought getting rid of him was supposed to fix everything?

Giving SP a golden parachute when he was on his way out was the crime.

 

[Jpripper88]

That says Pitt has 9 national championships and is in the top 20 all time wins. That doesn't seem to show they don't care.

It says for 40 years we haven't accomplished anything and haven't done anything to change that since it became big business.

OK, then we should schedule an FCS game and 3 mid majors to pad the wins. If that is all that matters.

But then the fans won't show up because they'll say the schedule sucks.

They absolutely should. We know for sure fans don't give a crap about playing Iowa or Oklahoma State. That is especially true when we lose to those teams. It is moronic to keep trying that and constantly hurting the program's ability to win games and generate positive momentum.

Pitt fans are never going to fill Heinz Field. Ever. It wouldn't matter if we won back to back National Championships and had the whole team returning. We would still have to count on the opponent to bring 10k+ fans from Happy Valley, Morgantown, or South Bend. It is idiotic to count on that. Plenty of programs are successful without getting 70k fans on Saturdays. However, Pitt hasn't been successful for 35 years and they constantly make decisions, which show they have no designs on trying to be successful.