LOL $25 an hour - good one. That may be a brand new teacher straight out of college with zero experience. The average teacher makes a lot more than that
And no, most lawyers I know don't make anywhere close to $250 an hour
Do you think kids are back in school in the fall?
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LOL $25 an hour - good one. That may be a brand new teacher straight out of college with zero experience. The average teacher makes a lot more than that
And no, most lawyers I know don't make anywhere close to $250 an hour
A teacher that makes 50k per year works about 2,000 hours per year. That equates to $25 an hour.
I just went through the process recently of hiring a lawyer, and the range was between $200-$300 an hour. Hence $250 an hour for the number.
How much do you think consultants charge an hour? Plumbers? Private contractors?
you have to realize
Dude only started posting hear to grind a political axe-
And doesn’t post about Pitt or sports at all
First teachers don't work 2000 hours a year
Second - what you pay a lawyer in his hourly billing rate is much different than what a lawyer earns in salary. Just like it is for a plumber, electrician, etc. Do you not have any idea of what it takes to run a business
LOL - The majority of my posts here are Pitt and sports related. But I have a life and don't live on the board like you do with 64,000 some posts. I usually have more constructive things to do with my time
Correct.
Now, some of the urban and highly rural PA teachers are not as well paid, but by and large PA teachers are well paid, with better than average healthcare and a nice pension.
A lot of these southern states, yes teachers and education generally are criminally under paid.
How many hours of work does a hospital VP actually work in a year?
The minimum starting salary for a teacher in PA is $18,500. The starting salary for a state trooper is $61,280.
The minimum starting salary for a teacher in PA is $18,500. The starting salary for a state trooper is $61,280.
Wisconsin killed the teachers union and now the teachers make less on average. Its not a difficult concept to understand. Sure, some superstar teachers would make more without a union but the majority would make less. One of the reasons for this is the massive over-supply of college graduates with teaching degrees. That needs regulated more.
Whether teaching is an upper echelon profession or not has nothing to do with the teaching union. Many upper echelon professions have no union (e.g., doctors, lawyers, and bankers). Many bottom level professions have no union (janitors, fast food workers, etc.).
The teacher's union's mission is solely to maximize their member's pay, benefits, and treatment, and they do that objectively well, especially compared to other states without teaching unions.
I mean, perception vs reality here.
States that have strong unions have better compensated and protected teachers and by and large better education.
States without strong unions have teachers have to take second jobs and by and large are worse education for their students.
I would say that the actual respect of getting well compensated and being part of a system that is putting out better education means a good bit more than having "more respect" from ideological extremists who treat you like fast food workers.
And hasn't been in DECADES! PA teachers are among the highest paid in the nation.
The result of a lot of districts teachers associations having holdouts in the 80s and 90s.
100%
One of the things that makes America, America is our economy.
We cant have the best economy in the world with a bunch of dunces running around.
Education is a process and the process cant be interrupted.
It's already been delayed.
The virus doesn't kill healthy people.
If some children are in a high risk group they can be educated differently in a controlled environment.
People are drawing more conclusions than necessary way to early when it comes to the future and the virus.
Lets get the economy open.
Everyone get their flu shot.
Lets see what treatments come out.
We'll see how the virus goes in the fall.
It might be gone, minor, or a problem.
Noone knows.
Lets solve the immediate problem and
do whatever planning we can do now, now
and be ready for the future.
Canceling school isn't solving a problem its quitting
and giving in to the problem.
Same for sports!
Noone knows.
One of the things that makes America, America is our economy.
We cant have the best economy in the world with a bunch of dunces running around.
Education is a process and the process cant be interrupted.
It's already been delayed.
The virus doesn't kill healthy people.
If some children are in a high risk group they can be educated differently in a controlled environment.
People are drawing more conclusions than necessary way to early when it comes to the future and the virus.
Lets get the economy open.
Everyone get their flu shot.
Lets see what treatments come out.
We'll see how the virus goes in the fall.
It might be gone, minor, or a problem.
Noone knows.
Lets solve the immediate problem and
do whatever planning we can do now, now
and be ready for the future.
Canceling school isn't solving a problem its quitting
and giving in to the problem.
Same for sports!
Noone knows.
I am a teacher and I just added up my hours for a normal year.
I work 7 1/2 hours a day Monday -Friday in the building for 37 1/2 hours
a week. Another 1-2 hours in the evening probably 3-4 days a week for another 6 hours. Saturday and Sunday another 1-2 hours.
That's a total of 45 hours a week. Between in service and a contract of 190 days adds up to 40 weeks. Which if correct leaves 12 weeks off.
We no longer get 12 weeks off for the summer. This year it is 8 1/2 weeks. During this down time I am required to take some many classes
every 5 years. This usually amount s to 1 a year.
Adding this all up I average 2000 hours a year easy.
I am not complaining at all about my job, I truly enjoy teaching and wouldn't change if I could.
So to answer a question posed on the board. Yes, teachers do average
at least 2000 hours a year. Most new teachers (under 3-4 years) are way
over that amount due to making lesson plans.
I work 7 1/2 hours a day Monday -Friday in the building for 37 1/2 hours
a week. Another 1-2 hours in the evening probably 3-4 days a week for another 6 hours. Saturday and Sunday another 1-2 hours.
That's a total of 45 hours a week. Between in service and a contract of 190 days adds up to 40 weeks. Which if correct leaves 12 weeks off.
We no longer get 12 weeks off for the summer. This year it is 8 1/2 weeks. During this down time I am required to take some many classes
every 5 years. This usually amount s to 1 a year.
Adding this all up I average 2000 hours a year easy.
I am not complaining at all about my job, I truly enjoy teaching and wouldn't change if I could.
So to answer a question posed on the board. Yes, teachers do average
at least 2000 hours a year. Most new teachers (under 3-4 years) are way
over that amount due to making lesson plans.
Minimums vary by district. So that $18,500 is meaningless as the number in most areas of the state are much much higher. The average state starting salary for teachers in over $44,000
And a state trooper puts their life on the line.
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This is a summary of PA teacher salary by PA county.
https://whyy.org/articles/what-the-...her-earns-in-every-pa-public-school-district/
50k is low.
Teachers don't work 2,000 hours they work more like 1,600 hrs.
Most make quite a bit in the summers most of June, July, August depending what they do and pick up extra money with after school jobs.
While teaching is relatively low paid job the retirement packages are really good and teachers can get out early.
We love teachers,law enforcement and military people all of whom should be paid more, but hours are typically counted on the job, and in the building.
I'm a Corp executive and I put around 10-12 hr a day in the building. So I look at my job as 50-60 hr a week job.
I also work at home when the kids and wife start doing other things and family time is over around 1-2 hrs a night. Could be more.
I don't consider my job to be a 60-70 a week job by adding in the home work time or travel time when I fly 15 hrs to Asia and 15 hrs back.
I think to compare apples to apples a teacher should consider in the building time for hrs per week which is more like 1,620.
In the last 5 years there is a huge teacher shortage. I know because I was trying to hire them to teach at my school.
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