we all have our opinions and they are based on nothing but hope and guesses. with ND telling big 10 No for the 234rd time, nothing is going to happen for years.
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Interesting that you see the ACC GOR as a positive. Frankly, I could argue it is as much a detriment as it is a positive. Lets say you're right. If so, that means the ACC is locked in a shit TV contract for many years to come...making upwards of $65+m less than the teams in the big two conferences (for what, another decade +?!). And, if the GOR is so "ironclad", ESPN has zero reason to pony-up more $$ (and lets not forget, ESPN isn't exactly a printing press of $$ these days). They have you guys by the nuts and you have no leverage to muscle ESPN into ponying-up more $$. Your only hope is ND coming to your salvation and thereby reopening TV renegotiations...good luck with that.
I'll give you that. There is still some outside chance that someday both the B1G and SEC will want to become true "super conferences" with upwards of 24 teams each. If that happens, there is hope for both WVU and Pitt. But, it doesn't appear that is going to happen near term and every year that passes is another $30+m in annual revenue that you fall behind to the chosen few in those two conferences.
We must really lack in hits and posts on these boards for the mods to allow these to continue. I’m not saying that the Auto Banhammer should be automatically applied for a stray smartarse post from an obvious interloper…that’s what the Nits do. But many of these dudes must have like a thousand or more posts on this board since this conference dung started. I don’t care, they’re easily ignored, and their delusions are amusing. I can kind of admire their psychotic hatred of Pitt to be so obsessed to put in so much time; hopefully this spike in hits is filling Rivals quota so they aren’t tempted to drop Pitt boards. I’d miss it…the other Pitt sites have far crappier user interfaces. 😄 So rock on, Dude Spawns
The ACC GoR is great for BC, Pitt, Wake, Syracuse and maybe a few others like NCSU or VT. It’s bad for the 5 better brands in the league.
Your league has lost 6 teams in the last decade and you are basically back in the old Big East. Your confidence in this league is admirable but also stupid.
Regarding loosing TX and OK, the argument is not is the BXII one of the big2, it is who will become the 3rd most powerful conference and who will fall down to the next lower level. If the ACC GOR are as strong as they appear to be, what will the Clemson's, FSU and Miami look like after 10+ years receiving 1/2 what the big2 conferences get. Less dollars means losing good coaches, less NIL $, losing players to the portal = less viewers. The argument becomes is the BXII or the ACC in a better position to become #3. Both have pluses and minuses. However watching Commissioner JP yesterday did not provide a lot of confidence. The ACC's GOR gives stability today, but it also handcuffs the ACC's flexibility to make deals to enhance conference revenues while under the GOR. With the BXII GOR expiring soon, they have more flexibility to create value today.
You’re telling me- despite losing Colorado , aTm, Nebraska , Missouri , Texas and Oklahoma -
You guys are the reason people make fun of a WVU education. Your league is garbage. And the revenue gap is overrated. You cant pay the players. You can only spend the money on facilities upgrades and coaches but outside of a few premier coaches, most coaches are pretty similar. If Vanderbilt hires Narduzzi away for $15 million/year, does that mean we downgrade or might the MAC coach we hire be better?
Just like you to go to a meaningless example. This is not a discussion about the mediocre teams. Try Saban retires and Bama hires Dabo. Vanderbilt, trying to stay in the B2 hires Mario Cirsobal after his success at Miami.
Alabama doesn't need ESPN money to hire Dabo. Alabama can pay him whatever he wants. Clemson can pay him whatever he wants. If Bama offers $20 million, Clemson will offer $20 million. Now Bama could pay like $40 million-$50 million per year and Clemson cannot but it wont get close to that high.
You are clearly triggered about something. You’ve been rather emotional in numerous discussions. Zero reason to attack the proud WVU alum. I received an incredible education in my field of study and at negligible cost.
How does the GOR handcuff the ACC's flexibility? There are only a few teams (maybe one) that add value and they are going to hold out for an invite to the Big/SEC. That isn't on the GOR.
I haven’t subscribed to this but I think many XII fans are thinking there’s at least an outside chance that 4-6 schools from the PAC will join the league if the 30 day review comes back negatively for the PAC.
It seems likley that the 30 day review will come back negative and its also likely that if the PAC were to be no more that it will split along north-south lines. But even with the negative review, the PAC will likely decide to ride it out together until ND makes up it's mind.
When people call it a garbage conference, they’re referring to the “brand/market” appeal and it definitely lacks in that area.
If the ACC allows these teams go to the Big 12, its a major blunder. The ACC should grab up the best brands left and basically eliminate the other conferences. If for no other reason, if the Pac 12 and Big 12 are gone, you are guaranteed #3 forever.
I’m assuming espn has crunched the numbers for the acc with these possible additions. Maybe it doesn’t make sense financially OR maybe those pac 12 schools aren’t interested.
Everyone has their own opinions and bias. I mean "former ND fullback" Okay. I believe that. But I am guessing the ACC isn't conferring with James Conner on potential expansion scenarios.
He got the USC/UCLA to B1G back in April. Throw enough s*** against the wall and you’ll be right once in awhile.
It wouldn't save the league. It would potentially help get more money until Clemson, FSU, Miami, and UNC can leave when the GOR is up.
The only reason I could see the P12 schools not being interested is because they may not want to sign the GOR so they can be "free agents." If they did, I think the money is there.
The contact is up in 2036. We'll see. The GOR seems to be holding Texas and OU. I remember how all the Big 12 internet people were bragging about how great and ironclad the GOR is back in 2010 or whatever. Well, they might have been right. The thing you NEVER here is will the Big 12 sign a new GOR with their new contract. I would think not but what does that say about the league?
I seriously think the GOR is the best thing going for our salvation. That and espn having a vested interest in saving the ACC being a dust and 2nd.
