I predict if Russ is healthy, he will double KP's career TD passes within 16 games.
Jaylen Warren - Yikes!
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So what? You cling to that stat like it’s your teddy bear. Let’s hope he wins 78% of his starts like Kenny did last year.
pittdan77
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Seems to run a loose ship as a "player's coach" and I think that's been the problem for a while, now. You have to be out in front of problems or at least create a culture where the nonsense doesn't fly.
Thanks for building on my point because that’s exactly what Russ had in Denver. Oops.
Russell Wilson, an experienced, Super Bowl winning, all pro QB, had a QBR of 38.8 in Denver (2022) under an offensive coordinator who was pretty bad, but still not as bad as the worst offensive coordinator in the history of the game. Let that sink in. (Hint-offenses and Coordinators matter)
Then…Denver brings in an offensive mastermind and Russell goes from…wait for it…a 38 QPR to a whopping 50.1 QPR.
You’re not helping your argument. And now I’m starting to worry about Russ’s future here when in all actuality I thought it was a fine move to bring him in.
over the previous two seasons:
Kenny QBR=45.6
Russ QBR= 44.7
Think the average yinzer realizes this? Kenny- did that in a Matt Canada offense
Russ- a legend, experienced QB spent half his time in an innovative offense
I’m seriously starting to wonder if the Justin Fields era might start sooner than later. I’m worried about Jaylen Warren’s feelings!
It's also stupid to act like not being able to throw a mediocre number of TD passes doesn't matter. Who's won a championship throwing 6 TD passes in a season? I mean after WW2.
No offensive coordinator has ever won a Super Bowl with a middle school offense. 100% agree.
Maybe Canada had to run a middle school offense because he had a middle school QB
I mean prior to KP's 5th year, his TD record was like 13 in a season. That's pretty good for a middle school QB
Great leadership.
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Report: Steelers' Cameron Heyward plans to skip OTAs barring contract extension
Pittsburgh Steelers defensive captain Cam Heyward, whose salary cap hit for 2024 is second highest team as he enters the final year of his contract, plans to hold out of organized team activities unless he receives an extension, ESPN reported Wednesday. Heyward is coming off a season in which he
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would you agree the locker room has been in disarray since the Aaron Smith crew retired?Great leadership.
Report: Steelers' Cameron Heyward plans to skip OTAs barring contract extension
Pittsburgh Steelers defensive captain Cam Heyward, whose salary cap hit for 2024 is second highest team as he enters the final year of his contract, plans to hold out of organized team activities unless he receives an extension, ESPN reported Wednesday. Heyward is coming off a season in which he
eh. I don’t care if Kenny is a Pitt guy or not. I’m a fair weather Pitt fan anymore anyways because college football is a joke and it has been for decades. But now it’s dead. Kenny could be a Nitter for all I care and I’d have the same position. I’m no tribalist. PSU, WVU, Pitt…doesn’t matter to me. everyone chooses what’s best for them.
Now it could all be true. I’m not a fan of Kenny’s persona. There’s something about him that’s always seemed off to me. But…let’s consider the examples cited in the post you responded to.
Johnson- said something in an interview in which all of the context gets conveniently dropped on the editing room floor. The comments made in full context were nothing…especially when compared to 90% of the guys in the diva position. Plus he’s the guy who allegedly had a physical altercation with the other QB in the room.
Heyward- wants to win and win now because his clock is ticking. He’s all about himself and honestly why wouldn’t he be? It’s no secret that Kenny had a wasted season here in this offense and frankly the jury is still out at best. He doesn’t want potentially his last year with a still developing question mark at QB. He wants the accomplished vet at league minimum. Why not??
Warren- big nothing burger. I would hope the vet QB brings more leadership and I would assume he does. And let’s hope so because by some measurements Wilson put up stats in Denver that were worse than Kenny’s.
I wouldn’t argue with that. It just supports the point that KP had nothing to do with “losing” the locker room. The locker room is a mess to begin with
pittdan77
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Remember the stories where guys like Harrison would get in a guys face when they were behaving out of turn in the locker room? It was treated as sort of a joke last year that Minkah go pissed at Kaboly for walking on the logo in the locker room, like it shouldn't be a big deal, but I've never been anywhere where that was okay. Harrison had gone at Kaboly a couple of times and let him know that a question or an action didn't fly.
“Mason wanted to sign back, they wanted him to sign him back. He talked to the team that Sunday afternoon and got some weird vibes,” Kaboly said. “Then an soon as Russell signed, or sent out his Renegade, it was almost instantly saying, ‘I’m pursuing other places. Obviously, I’m getting disrespected. They don’t want me here, I’m going somewhere else.’ If Russell does not sign, does not send out the Renegade thing, it’s Kenny Pickett probably number one, Mason Rudolph number two right now.”
So I guess Mason is afraid of competition, too? Holding my breath for all the shots at him from the misfit crew of Dulac, Madden, etc.
Seriously though, this confirms what a lot of us have been saying. Mason was about to re-sign with the Steelers. They either pulled his offer or became extremely lukewarm on him once it was known that Russell Wilson would sign. There was never a competition and never going to be one...Wilson was always their guy.
More than just Aaron Smith but yes, it's been a mess for over a decade now.
I've been told that Kenny had some detractors in the locker room early on in the season. By the end of the season, I heard that # grew much bigger. What I mean by detractors were guys who just didn't believe he was QB1 and that Mason was the best option the entire time.
Which is 100% fine as the Steelers can make personnel decisions as they choose. The issue with many is the witch hunt that ensued.
That's why Mitch came in when Kenny got hurt. Your super secret locker room info not withstanding.
Yeah I guess I just missed all the Dulac hit piece articles on Mitch Trubisky, Rudolph, Mason Cole, Chuks, and Diontae.
How does Mitch coming in instead of Mason go against the fact that a group of players thought Mason was the best of all 3?
I wonder if said group of players would have said this if Mason came out and stunk up the joint? Revisionist history is almost never wrong.How does Mitch coming in instead of Mason go against the fact that a group of players thought Mason was the best of all 3?
nearly impossible for Mason to fail. His three games were against the Bengals, who Pickett also lit up in his final appearance, the Lions who had one of the worse pass defenses in the league, and the Ravens who already clinched. Heck the duck would have looked great for that 3 game stretch.
yep, now we get the reverse spin with Kaboly running the Wilson's work ethic has been off the charts piece, and this morning Najee is losing weight and in the best shape of his life according to the PG. The Steeler messaging team is very strong.
I heard it after training camp the past 2 years, not after Mason's games as a starter last season.
Did you hear that from the media or actual players? Because, I sure didn't see any quotes attributed to the players stating Mason should be the guy.
I said earlier in the thread, I know a guy. No - we're not "friends" but I trust what he says and he was on the staff in 2022.
Was there a media report about it though? Like I said, I don't really listen to Steelers media nor do I really listen to PITT media for that matter.
Go find my comments from his first start .
It was clear he’s the best QB pitt has had from a talent and composure perspective in a long time
And you would be wrong
Hence - they voted him captain .
you might want to research how teams' "vote" and how politics still seep into these decisions.
Happens all the time
This is silly. There are a ton of public quotes from players praising Kenny and mentioning how deserving he was to be named Captain. Dan Moore, Heyward, and Tomlin all said as much.
Heyward was publicly still behind Pickett as QB1 as late as mid-February 2024. Same with Tomlin. Tomlin even publicly said Kenny would be QB1 "with competition." Nothing changed except Russ Wilson indicated he would sign with the Steelers. This was never about who Kenny is or is not in the locker room. All of these media leaks are literal hit pieces that don't align with reality about how the team talked about or felt about him from May 2022 - February 2024.
Which is OK. The Steelers need to and are expected to do what they think is in their best interests. I have no problem with that
But the issue i have (and most others do) is the trashing of KP by claiming he didn’t want to compete. The Steelers made it clear he wasn’t in their plans by not only signing Wilson and handing him the starting job but also going after fields well before they signed Wilson. Again that’s their prerogative. You can debate whether they upgraded the position or not. Time will tell
What’s bullshit is how they either leaked these stories about KP or at the very least have done nothing to diffuse them.
I’ll say it again. Thats speaks more to how dysfunctional this team is than to KP. Explains why they’ve continually lost games they had no business losing KP did the right thing by getting out of that mess
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