which is it, freakin' obvious or time will tell? if it is freakin obvious we do not need time to tell.
OK, I will say it. Saquon Barkley is the most overrated player
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which is it, freakin' obvious or time will tell? if it is freakin obvious we do not need time to tell.
There might have been some saying that, but far more were saying he would suck and be out of the league before a 2nd contract. His floor is extremely high. At worst, he will be Theo Riddick and at best he could be one of the best RBs in the league. I wouldn't have taken him #2, but, barring injury, he is going to be a very productive NFL player for a long time, with a chance to be special.
The same people who said he sucked last year called Miles Sanders a bust, too. Now they use his success as an example Barkley sucks.
-Reggie Bush ran a 4.33 40 and averaged 9 yards per carry in college his junior season. Bush's average is almost double Barkley's college run per carry. Your post is ridiculous. Barkley's junior season he only put up 1200 yards rushing. He's an NFL player now.
-For reference, Barry Sanders put up 1500 yards and 5.3 yards per carry his first season in the NFL. That was in 15 games total. Barkley's stats are junk when comparing to superior players. If that makes him overrated, so be it. Play better.
The fact that Barkley needs to be compared to Barry Sanders in order to somehow prove something says it all.
You think Barkley is faster than Dorsett? Really? Did you ever see him in his prime?
I started this thread and I think I said by no means that I mean he sucks. I just mean I am not saying he is going to be a HOF running back like Franco or Dorsett. Maybe he will be, but people are acting like he is the best RB prospect of all time. My god. How have they forgotten about others before.
And some Nitter nailed me on twitter, with a "what would a Pitt fan know about great RB's?" Gee......I dunno. I believe there were some "decent" RB's who went through here.
seem to think the theme of the original post was "most overrated" take out "most" (which was ambiguous and somewhat ridiculous) and then debate...One would think that the 2nd overall pick with all the hype about lightning bolts shooting out of this kid's azz (not from 72 yards per at this point) was not because he might be "pretty good" it was because he would come into the league and be very near the top of rushers rushing yards and be something "special"...He will be 7th after Conner passes him up tonight.. Shady McCoy finished 4th last year and no one gave it a second thought. Should he finish 7th at the end of the year...Overrated?
"And some Nitter nailed me on twitter, with a "what would a Pitt fan know about great RB's?" Gee......I dunno. I believe there were some "decent" RB's who went through here." If shady can get healthy in a couple years they will have to go down the all time NFL rushing list past three Panthers before they get to a Nitter...
So he is 7th currently? With a bad OL. And the top yards after contact? Sounds pretty good to me.
once again, we are not talking "pretty good" Does 7th equate to overrated? For me, 7th does not match the hype...not matching the hype means overrated. of course, very very too soon to tell.
He threw out the high only, which is stupid because those yards count too.
Take away Hines Ward's long TD catch from Randel El in the Super Bowl, and he has a pedestrian game with no TDs and isn't the MVP. But... he made that catch, so it counts too.
OMG who cares. He is gone from PSU the Giants drafted him #2 but have no line so it doesn't matter how good he is or isn't.
I would have taken a D end, Chubb, or an O lineman like Nelson.
Hell maybe the Browns got it right with Mayfield certainly better than Edmunds.
I would have taken a D end, Chubb, or an O lineman like Nelson.
Hell maybe the Browns got it right with Mayfield certainly better than Edmunds.
-Whats this have to do with anything? Barry Sanders was 5'6 and destroys Barkley or any player on that list.
He’s a soft bum like every other Nitany scum back who went to the nfl the last 35 years. You probably thought Blacksludge was good too...
Hey lion since you are here could you answer a question. If someone on BWI posted that Larry Fitzgerald was overrated would over 70% of your board attack that as wrong? Or would they more likely argue that it's TRUE and Kenny Jackson was better?
You say all PSU RBs are bad and then reference a QB. Genius.
BTW, I have no clue how blackledge was. Before my time geezer.
Just overrated Penn State trash regardless of the position......Curtis "buy me a new suit" Ennis, Kijana "cupcake" Carter...you get the idea.
Um, no, not really. I call out a guy who has spread the same BS 15 times because his kids got boat raced in high school and you choose to attack me over Penn State. Get a grip. You are EXACTLY what is wrong with this board and you humiliate us all.
Since you're so much smarter than everyone, you should hit up PN and tell him to stop offering ALL the same kids as Penn State. Sounds like you uncovered a key to success sparky.
? He's on pace for 1100 yds and 100 catches on a bad nfl offense and he's only 21.
This...
getting sick of the OL excuse... if he was as great as everyone says he wouldn't need excuses.
I was not criticizing him.
The purpose of my post was to set the record straight and correct the over
"overblown Hype" that he was as good any player "ever".
I further suggested lets wait till the end of the season.
I was in the camp that thought the guy was going to be elite and said so on this board - Half way thru his last college season I recanted.
You on the other hand are stuck on some "you just don't like him because he's from Ped State" as defense for any criticism.
Frankly Ped State does have a long history of high pick busts - but these are all individual players and that shouldn't be held against him.
I don't like any Ped State players but that doesn't effect my evaluation of them.
We can judge him at the end of the season - he's been average and may yet warrant his high pick - but I doubt it
CMON Owtie you are better than that. You sound like a bitter Pitt fan. Get over your hate.
Guarantee 95% of us (psu fans) would say the poster was an idiot.. clearly, he is an all-time great wr and better than Kenny Jackson.. kinda a dumb attempt at trolling..
You waited SIX years to rehash this post. Go to the Ped State board where you belong.
Still feel that way? Tonight was historic
Hate aside the kid had an incredible performance
What Barkley's season tells me is, if you are a true elite RB (and he clearly is, and always was), you don't want to be on a bad team. No matter how good you are (and again, he's very very very good), a RB can't do it without the right pieces around him.
The Giants clearly really really sucked.
The Giants clearly really really sucked.
exactly, a new thread would have been okay, but searching old posts to resurrect for a gotcha moment for a PSU player is very strange.
Nah, rehashing bad takes is always funny regardless of who it's about, and this thread is full of them.
Whatever happened to recruitsreadtheseboards?
Is he still around?
Is he still around?
Players can change in 6 years. So the take of him being overrated in 2018 might be true while it also might be true he and Josh Allen are fighting for the MVP of the league so far. I seem to recall a guy that was injured all of the time with soft tissue injuries for much or his early career. As a non Giants or Eagles fan, I dont care one way or another about him. His backwards jump 2 weeks ago was spectacular. He's on a good run right now. Eagles look at worst as the 2nd team in NFC with the Lions.
Eagles defense stinks. Here are the Cat's NFL rankings
1) Chiefs
2)Bills
3)Lions
4)Minnesota
5) Green Bay
6) Falcons
7) Eagles
8) Chargers
9) Steelers
10) Buccaneers
It was clear that he was a special talent 6 years ago. People just wouldn't accept it because he played for the molestation supporters.
Oh he has tremendous talent...but he was injured quite a bit early on or am I wrong on that? I also thought his last year at psu he had a reputation for making business decisions and running for the sidelines but I could be 100% wrong on that as well. I don't care enough to actually look up his injury history.
I seem to remember with him at PSU is he would bust the big runs/returns and make the splashy play but also get tackled for a lot of 1 and 2 yard gains. There were several games his last year where he didn't break 100 yards. It seems like this year he is finally putting it all together.
I also remember how strange it was so many posters here were fawning over Barkley that year. PSU envy at its finest.
You are so naive. What made you think that?
Was it the fact that he had arguably the 3rd best rookie season by a skill position player in NFL history behind Eric Dickerson and Edge James?
