He’s very talented
But King Henry would have a word .
Jahmyr Gibbs is crazy productive with 145 less Carries than Barkley
OK, I will say it. Saquon Barkley is the most overrated player
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But King Henry would have a word .
Jahmyr Gibbs is crazy productive with 145 less Carries than Barkley
He's the right guy for the right team at the right time. As an Eagles fan I was originally skeptical of the signing. Boy was I wrong. He won me over pretty quickly. He's not like Shady where he will juke and make a hole appear where there is none and turn a negative play into a huge gain. But he is patient and will find the hole. And when he hits the second level you can forget it. True homerun hitter, take it to the house running back.
He also comes across as a real nice and humble guy in addition to a transfromative player. Been super respectful of Shady, BWest and all the guys that came before him as well as his teammates.
He's pretty special.
He also comes across as a real nice and humble guy in addition to a transfromative player. Been super respectful of Shady, BWest and all the guys that came before him as well as his teammates.
He's pretty special.
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If you're comparing guys to Kirkland, every LB is going to look small. He's one-of-a-kind. I'd be amazed if we ever see another linebacker that's 6-1 275+ again. I mean give Diaby another 6-7 years in the league and he's going to be pushing 290+, but he's also 6-4 and runs a 4.5 40.
Edge guys in the today's NFL aren't playing the same position that Kirkland played in his heyday. Edge guys have consistently been somewhat bigger. Diaby is playing more like Lloyd or Greene's position.
Nevertheless, I'd be willing to wager that if you told any coach/GM in the league to pick a RB for their team next year out of the entire pool of current NFL running backs, every single one of them would take Barkley.
He's finally on a team with a decent O-line and a decent coach.
I would also note that whether LBs are smaller or not isn't a particularly strong argument relative to your point. This isn't sumo wrestling, they most certainly are faster and better trained and conditioned than back in the day.
What we are seeing with these offenses you have mentioned is that the system's are designed to put defenders into conflict relative to pass and multiple run options, both pre and post snap.
They are way more sophisticated than the older offenses, and they higher end OCs are more capable of beating even good defenses not just with the passing offense, but the run offense.
I mean - do you think Henry or Gibbs wouldn’t be far more
Productive behind Philly’s OL?
Barkley's way bigger than Gibbs. And he's younger than Henry.
Henry's going to the HOF, no doubt. I also have no doubt that barring injury, Barkley will get there, as well. Barkley is a far better receiver than Henry and is clearly faster at this point. I don't remember how fast Henry was when he was younger.
Gibbs is 5'9", 200. I wouldn't bet a lot of money on the length of his career being anywhere near Barkley's or Henry's. They are both way bigger than he is.
As a former player, I like to think that Xs and Os and schemes are really important and that football is this amazing tactical sport -- but then I talk to my wife who thinks football is essentially sumo wrestling. If you ask her, in its essence, football is a bunch of guys running into one another. The truth is somewhere in the middle. I can tell you that bigger players matter. I have relatives in college football, including one at the G5 level and one at the FCS level. When they play P5 schools, size of the players matters. They got some skill guys that can hang. But they'll tell you that the front 7 is the biggest differentiator. In fact, it is probably the single biggest difference between the Dakotas and Montanas of FCS, who dominate FCS, and other FCS programs. They are bigger. They use their size advantage to play a more physical brand of football, and are wildly successful because of it.
Hasn’t Barkley literally missed large parts of seasons to injury ?
Did I imagine that ?
He had a year where he tore an ACL, then I think he missed a few weeks last year with a high ankle sprain. That’s pretty much it, but the ACL was the big one.
He did. I think he had an ACL in there somewhere. Doesn't seem like it has diminished him, though.
He did this for 1 year. lol. Those guys on the list would produce year in and year out. REGARDLESS OF SITUATION OF THE TEAM. I’d actually argue a back like Steven Jackson is who Saquon should’ve performed like. I haven’t seen Saquon having Steven Jackson type seasons. Period.
He's over 1000 yards 4 times, so far. This past year he's over 2000. He has over 321 receptions for another 2300 yards.
He needs to keep doing it, obviously, but there's no reason to think that this year is a one-off.
Jackson is a good comp, though.
True. And before this past year, the distance between these guys was much smaller than it is now. But, he went and had a season that was remarkable. Najee occasionally has a remarkable quarter.
People also forget that he had the third most yards from scrimmage of any rookie in NFL history.
Then tore his ACL in week 2.
Then played behind what was likely the second-worst offensive line in NFL history.
Oh, I agree Barkley makes the eagles a contender, along with a great defense .
Should be a good Super Bowl .
