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Heard they are supposed to have a record amount of cap this year. If they're ever going to do it, it's this year. Should've gone out of their way to get Weddle and Norman last offseason when they were linked to them.
Maybe it's the opposite, maybe ben doesn't care if they're "locker room" leaders but just wants to keep them purely for their talent on the field.
He also acted like a jackass most of his career. What goesk around comes around....
It's going to be great with Landry Jones and maybe some good character receivers catching 30 balls for 9yards/catch and 2 TDs, that 5-11 with great locker room leadership is going to feel real good! Finally! Maybe they can livestream a team prayer! No we're talking!
It is always exciting to watch a franchise draft a QB in the1st or 2nd round though. Bet the Steelers do that this year or next now.
Only problem with this draft is that they're isn't too many good quarterbacks in this draft. What they need to do is draft Patrick Maholmes in the mid rounds, see if he's anything good, and then trade up next year to get Sam Darnold or one of the other top prospects.
I don't disagree with that statement at all but that doesn't preclude me from criticizing his play , whether it be in one game,one season or over his entire career.
As long as you admit that it will be near impossible to get QB play even at his level any time soon.
The pipeline of pro style QBs from college to the nfl has been poor recently. Can't say much more than that. It's never easy replacing a long tenured starting QB no matter the team.
Radiohead opinions regarding Big Ben's candor were all over the place.
Madden was emphatic that Ben was sending a message to Tomlin and the organ-I-zation; Starkey and Mueller said about the same but acknowledged the Diva at Work. This AM, the Fan crew insisted that a 35-yo QB had the right to muse about his future, and that any messages or melodrama notion was off base.
The cynic in me thinks that the Hot Line rang at 93.7 late last night, and the voice on the South Side at the other end warned, Back off the Message Talk.
Everything Ben does is calculated.
Madden was emphatic that Ben was sending a message to Tomlin and the organ-I-zation; Starkey and Mueller said about the same but acknowledged the Diva at Work. This AM, the Fan crew insisted that a 35-yo QB had the right to muse about his future, and that any messages or melodrama notion was off base.
The cynic in me thinks that the Hot Line rang at 93.7 late last night, and the voice on the South Side at the other end warned, Back off the Message Talk.
Everything Ben does is calculated.
It would make me very happy if he was threatening the Rooneys and Tomlin with actual ultimatums behind the scenes, LOAD UP THE ROSTER FOR A SUPER BOWL RUN NOW or I retire now. I would be absolutely ecstatic if I found out he was ding that.
when you have one foot out the door, perhaps he should just retire altogether
if his heart isn't truly in it how can he play his best? if you guys know you are leaving a job do you still do your best?
though he may just be talking about retirement to force the steelers to make some moves
if his heart isn't truly in it how can he play his best? if you guys know you are leaving a job do you still do your best?
though he may just be talking about retirement to force the steelers to make some moves
he is not irreplaceable, the team never did well without clicking on all cylinders it was never him carrying them
the steelers are a good organization and he benefited greatly from that, if he ended up in indianapolis his career would look a lot like andrew luck's right now
the steelers are a good organization and he benefited greatly from that, if he ended up in indianapolis his career would look a lot like andrew luck's right now
Yeah I wish he would try to mess with the Rooneys. After they put up with all his bullshit for years. You all complaining about Brown and how Ben is disapponted in him. Are you all serious? Ben is anfew years from riding that motorcycle and 2 accusations of rap. And now you all acting like Brown is bad for the team?
He's often carried the team, 2005 playoffs he lifted the team on his back unilaterally and carried them himself with his passing game to the Super Bowl, he even saved FATBOY Bettis with a game saving tackle when he had positioned himself to be an all time goat! He carried the team to victory himself in Super Bowl XLVIII in the final 2 minutes, if he had never joined the team, they'd still be selling "One for the Thumb" t shirts.
Yeah sure the Rooneys are cheap. Demand they spend money. They only have 6 tropheys. Its their team not Ben's they can spend anyway they want. Man some of you need to stop.
Gaudy stats from individual games mean nothing. I can give you stats from individual games over Ben's entire career when he was horrible- dumb throws, terrible interceptions and fumbles resulting from his holding on to the ball too long and all these issues persisted even this year in a number of games. When the Steelers have been great they have had very good defenses and a running game Ben could lean on. He's good but he's not great and he's been a second tier QB his entire career. I admit, however, he has played a portion of his career in which there have been some great QBs.
There's no use talking about it.
You think Ben is just a mediocre player who was lucky to be on a good team.
I think he's the 2nd most important player in Steelers History after Mean Joe and the catalyst for the 2nd Super Bowl Era.
So we'll never agree.
You think Ben is just a mediocre player who was lucky to be on a good team.
I think he's the 2nd most important player in Steelers History after Mean Joe and the catalyst for the 2nd Super Bowl Era.
So we'll never agree.
three 8 - 8 seasons with ben, i remember charlie batch winning a lot of games with the steelers, which is another thing he can't stay healthy
he had 17 touchdowns and 9 interceptions in the 2005 season, if the defense wasn't great they wouldn't have made the playoffs that year with numbers like that, he has never thrown for more than 3 touchdowns in a playoff game oh and 2005 was more than a decade ago, look at his playoff numbers since then
2008 17 touchdowns and 15 interceptions again they miss the playoffs that season if not for an elite defense, those are putrid numbers for an "elite" quarterback
never said plug in jones and mettenberger, you are resorting to extremes to defend your hero quarterback, he is and always was overrated because of those super bowls won with defense
troy polamalu was the 2nd most important player ever
they were an elite defense when he was at his best, they missed the playoffs in 2009 when he was hurt in between super bowl appearances and the defense took years to recover after he declined
how am i wrong? it took the steelers 6 years to win a playoff game they deserved to win after troy went downhill, 5 if you really want to count the game the bengals handed to them
i'll see soon? i've already seen it, why haven't you? ben is highly overrated and being better than landry jones doesn't make me think otherwise
No QB can win by himself. Drew Brees is putting up monster numbers and NO is 7-9 3 of the last 4 years. Manning has done way less than Ben with NYG. Your God Rodgers has had less post season success than Ben, BEN>TROY, they would have won those two Super Bowls without Troy, they'd still be selling "One for the Thumb" t shirts without Ben.
Nah, I just know a diva and overrated QB when I see one. Couldn't run a QB sneak from the one foot line against the Patriots because he's a clumsy and fragile little sissy who gets his big clown feet all tangled up when he moves. Get a skirt and boot for Fathead!
how does ben have more post season success? more wins yeah but not better as an individual not even close
rodgers has a super bowl mvp, ben has zero and rodgers beat ben in the super bowl while ben had the higher ranked defense
are you arguing ben is better than rodgers? i sure hope not, that's like arguing his wife from new castle is better looking than olivia munn
manning two time super bowl mvp, and the patriots were far better than the cards and seahawks
troy is a much better safety than ben is a qb, the steelers missed the playoffs without troy in 2009 and missed when he declined in 2011 and 2012, the defense has still not recovered since his decline
they'd still be selling one for the thumb shirts if ben wasn't carried by the defense in the 2005 and 2008 seasons, did you conveniently ignore the numbers i posted?
if she was your sister do you think you would defend him this much?
that's another problem i have with him, people are depending on a guy like that to be a leader why on earth would anybody expect immature guys like bell, bryant, and brown to listen to him?
They can have the individual success, I'll take BEN WHO IS A FAT HEAD AND WHO SUCKS and take the WINS, and then before you know it, he'll be in the HALL OF FAME and have the individual recognition too.
Ben has done more than all of those others in terms of team success and he's carried the team enough for it to be easy to conclude that if he wasn't on the team THEY LOSE Super Bowl XLIII and fail in the playoffs and don't even reach Super Bowl XL, but yeah, he sucks, everyone else is great.
huh? the only thing anyone is defending is his ability as a football player...guy has been in three super bowls and won two and is a sure fire hall of famer...
when was the last time ben had one of those wins you give him so much credit for? i'll answer 8 years ago today, good thing harrison returned that int 100 yards
good thing he had santonio too, he caught every pass on that drive, might explain why ben couldn't move the ball on the final drive against the packers
why do you give ben the credit for the super bowls when his numbers wouldn't get the steelers to the playoffs without that elite defense?
are you arguing the numbers i posted are good numbers?
what do you mean huh? you're the one that brought up the bathroom incident
he has no business being in the hall of fame
The Hall of Fame is ABOUT THE PAST, so it doesn't matter.
Joe Namath is in the Hall of Fame for just ONE post season that was maybe 8 years before he retired as a broken down bum.
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Good thing that Patriots DB intercepted that ball at the goal line or Brady loses a Super Bowl vs. Seattle.
Good thing the Seahawks threw a pass that was intercepted at the goal line or Brady loses a Super Bowl vs. Seattle.
Good thing the Patriots Defense shuts down "The Greatest Show on Turf"' or Brady loses a Super Bowl.
Good thing Adam Venatieri hits those 45+ FGs at the end of those two Super Bowls that Brady couldn't close out or maybe Brady is 2-5 in Super Bowls.
