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UNCW Game & Other Dribbles ...

That's about the best we can do I suppose.
Looks like you will get a chance to improve your creative writing skills as this brutal season unfolds. So depressing that I thought we literally hit rock bottom a few years ago, but I'm now thinking it is getting worse, a lot worse.

I will continue, like you two, to watch and pull for the team cause that is what I do.
Hope to chat it up with you sometime this year.
 
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DT, I heartily commend you for just having the energy or will to write any dribbles for this edition of the Pitt basketball team. Here's how I look at last night's win. It's kind of like when you're watching your favorite baseball team go up against an elite pitcher and you're just happy they got a hit to avoid a no-no. At least we aren't going to go 0 for the season.

except the pitcher has a 20 ERA and we still almost get no hit.
 
** What’s tough for this Pitt fan, and I assume any Pitt fan, is how to view or frame a season such as this to gain any enjoyment at all.

** What is success? Is it improvement? Is it achieving somewhere above already low expectations? Is it watching a few of our better players mature and demonstrate real talent for the future?

** Unfortunately, in present day college basketball, it’s almost hard seeing good players on a bad team growing and achieving, knowing that they may just be auditioning for greener pastures.

** A wise Pitt Hoops fan once wrote on these message boards that the goal of any team should be to become the best team they can be. I’ve since then always subscribed to that mantra, even if it’s hard like it is with this squad to create a picture in one’s mind just what that would look like.

** I’m sure there are plenty of Pitt fans who would submit that success this year can actually be defined by the team grabbing the least possible level of success, thinking this will hasten the exit of the man in charge. While I can understand the logic in such a belief, I just can’t go into a season hoping for the Panthers to lose. At least not three games in.

** All of this to say that I’m glad the Panthers won tonight. But I can’t say that I really enjoyed it. Especially the second half.

** In his post game show, HC Jeff Capel said his team was going to need to have to win ugly this year. Well, if that’s the case, then mission accomplished I guess. However, I don’t think barely holding off a sub 250 Pomeroy ranked team is the kind of ugly is what any coach can be looking for.

** In fact, I don’t think this was winning ugly. It was more like winning ineptly, even there’s even such a thing.

** Perhaps that’s a little bit too harsh. There was some decent defense for many stretches during the game, particularly in the final minutes. And Big John was a rock on the glass. So was Will for stretches when he seemed to soar in for rebounds. Generally speaking, we kept dribblers in front of us, and communicated and switched, at least enough to get the job done even if this was a poor opponent.

** My concern with the defense though is that we don’t really look to force turnovers, nor push opponents to make mistakes. We are just playing straight up per se, and when your offense can’t score, eventually an opponent is going to catch up, even a bad one like the Seahawks.

** So of course, I could go on and on about our offensive ineptitude. There’s a long list of problems. At the top of the list, it’s not even just that we can’t shoot the ball from three. It’s that we don’t even shoot the ball from three.

** Watching the Panthers play offense made me wonder just want that game plan is. Maybe sometimes it’s to dump the ball to Big John and have him look for cutters. That worked a little in the first half, and John is a decent enough passer.

** But that was cut off in the second half after two quick buckets, and that left almost no way for the Panthers to score. Our last basket came at the 8:40 mark, and that was after a scramble following an offensive rebound. It was only one of 7 second half baskets. And not one of those was a jump shot. That’s kind of scary really.

** It also can’t be said that the Panthers passed up many jump shots. They really don’t get any.

** I’m wondering why just about every team in college basketball (or the pros, or even high school for that matter) can get the drive and pass for the open three corner fairly easily, but this does not even seem to be a strategy we employ.

** Knowing that we have one decent outside shooter in Nate Santos, who seems somewhat skilled at moving without the ball, why aren’t we running anything to get him shots? Nate didn’t get a single jump shot today.

** Regardless, whether it’s from poor design or poor execution, there isn’t a team above an eight grade level who can be the best team they can be when only shooting four three point shots in a game. It’s become far too an important part of the game.

** Going further, our guards and wings shot just two threes, while the other two were from our center, one of which was really ill advised.

** We know we just don’t have the skill to become anywhere close to being an even decent three point shooting team. But is 4-14 in a game too much to ask?

** Mr. Burton was a welcome addition to the fray today, and he played pretty well considering it was his first action. He seems like he has a head for the game, so hopefully he’ll work to improve this horrible deficit in the Panther offense.

** Three days from now, he’d better be because the way we played tonight on offense just might not be enough to garner a win against a like Towson who is at least a little better than UNCW.

** Through these words tonight, I can’t say I’ve come anywhere close to determining any worthwhile way to frame this season, let alone enjoy it. So I’ll settle for us getting a little better on Friday, watching a team that actually seems to have a better plan on offense.

** Even if we play with a better plan, there’s the huge question of whether or not we have anywhere near the skill to pull it off. But it would be a start.
I always look forward to reading your thoughts after a game. Often to confirm what I saw or felt leaving the game and to get additional perspective from someone who was watched Pitt hoops for longer than I have.

I can't agree with your thoughts more than I do with this and I left the Pete last night feeling wholly unsatisfied with this win although glad we won, I kept waiting the last 5 minutes for UNCW to find a way to win. Both teams were so inept though that we were merely able to hang on to our lead and do enough to win.

I haven't felt this way since yearv2 of KS and it makes me really discouraged as the last season we were all in the Pete, the energy, hope and optimism were back in the program and the building. Not sure how this all ends but I really hope we can get closer to the end of 2019-2020 season sooner rather than later whether that is with or without JC.
 
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I'm asking him to go from 50% to 65%... that type of progression can be done simply with shooting more.

going from 65%-80% is a lot harder. that's where skill level comes into play, but if you're a high level basketball player, especially a guard, you absolutely cannot be worse than 65% from the line. He's less than 50%. There were people in the stands last night that could've gone onto that court in that situation and shot better from the line than he did. I have no doubt about that.
Maybe the guy in row 3 can shoot FTs better , but that doesn’t mean Femi can . You don’t think the Femi knows he’s got an issue and practices ?
 
Maybe the guy in row 3 can shoot FTs better , but that doesn’t mean Femi can . You don’t think the Femi knows he’s got an issue and practices ?

idk man.. 50% is borderline neglect.

Shaq is widely known as one of the worst FT shooters ever and sits 52% for his career. He shot one handed and had a hitch and still made more than half.

Femi is below 50%....
 
idk man.. 50% is borderline neglect.

Shaq is widely known as one of the worst FT shooters ever and sits 52% for his career. He shot one handed and had a hitch and still made more than half.

Femi is below 50%....
Put the blame on who it belongs on and that’s the player , not the coaches . Now if the coaches were shooting the FTs then ok blame them .
 
JC has been around bb and bb coaches all his life and thinking he doesn’t know how to coach is just baloney .

When your coaching highly skilled players it‘s amazing how much better a coach you become .

Think Femi isn‘t practicing 500 FTs a day or that his guards and wings are practicing shooting 3’s or practicing how to defend the 3 ? Think they don’t stress blocking out on D ? Think he wasn’t pulling his hair out last yr watching X forcing the action , not passing the ball and getting T’s ?

The bottom line is that where JC and his staff have failed is in bringing in talented enough kids to play winning bb at this level . Everyone on their roster is a great athlete , they’re tall , they’re quick , they can jump, and run the floor , but being a great athlete doesn’t necessarily make you a great bb player . Pitt doesn’t have enough great bb players that can play at this level and that’s the problem not X and O’s .

Have to agree. This HC and staff’s biggest problems have centered around failures at player acquisition and roster retention. And really, there are no acceptable excuses for that.

It’s very difficult to believe they haven’t been able to do a better job of putting a roster together. Then keeping it together and improving it Especially now with the freedom of movement players have, an ACC program with excellent facilities ought to have some great opportunities. CBB rosters have become pretty much a year-to-year thing. Pitt hasn’t taken advantage and it’s really hurting them.

The clock is ticking and the product on the court isn’t good. Expecting in-season improvement at a skills fundamental like shooting is dreaming. Improving a team’s ability to shoot has to be done through acquiring players who are better shooters to begin with, as well as having the returners work very hard on technique and fundamentals in the off-season. Not seeing that.

The Horton and SIbande situations were both unexpected and hurt badly. But there are no acceptable excuses for the rest of it: the talent deficiencies and the player acquisition failures. And this will be 2 seasons in a row with HUGE ticket revenue losses. That’s got to be a big deal.
 
We all saw guys like Gary and Aaron in their first years and you would be hard pressed to believe they would become good centers, but they did. Someone worked with them and improved them. i cannot think of a single guy during Capel’s tenure that came in so so and improved. I guess to be fair he doesn’t really retain any players long enough to do that so there could be an issue.
 
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idk man.. 50% is borderline neglect.

Shaq is widely known as one of the worst FT shooters ever and sits 52% for his career. He shot one handed and had a hitch and still made more than half.

Femi is below 50%....
I’m not sure what my point is by saying this but Brandin Knight shot 53% from the line during his Pitt career, including just 44% during his All-American junior year.

The extreme amount of time Brandin and the staff put in to fix his foul shooting was very well documented. In fact, there was an instance when they decided NOT to have Brandin practice foul shots because all the work was not helping.
 
I’m not sure what my point is by saying this but Brandin Knight shot 53% from the line during his Pitt career, including just 44% during his All-American junior year.

The extreme amount of time Brandin and the staff put in to fix his foul shooting was very well documented. In fact, there was an instance when they decided NOT to have Brandin practice foul shots because all the work was not helping.
The great philosopher Yogi Berra said that 90% of the game is mental, and the other half is physical. I think that rule applies in these cases. There has to be some mental issue that keeps these players from being able to make foul shots at a reasonable rate.
 
The great philosopher Yogi Berra said that 90% of the game is mental, and the other half is physical. I think that rule applies in these cases. There has to be some mental issue that keeps these players from being able to make foul shots at a reasonable rate.
No doubt.
 
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Said the same thing under Dixon. If you have 20 hours (I think that's the rule?) of NCAA practice and film time per week, it doesn't make a ton of sense to spend a lot of it shooting free throws, something players can do on their own without their coaches and that often won't improve anyway.

That said, I think the more fair criticism of Capel here is he recruited a roster filled with guys who just can't really shoot.
 
Said the same thing under Dixon. If you have 20 hours (I think that's the rule?) of NCAA practice and film time per week, it doesn't make a ton of sense to spend a lot of it shooting free throws, something players can do on their own without their coaches and that often won't improve anyway.

That said, I think the more fair criticism of Capel here is he recruited a roster filled with guys who just can't really shoot.

doesn't seem like he's using for film or practice. i think they all just sit around and sing songs to each other.
 
If you don’t shoot 3s you can’t make 3s.
If you don’t shoot 3s the defense can pack it into a space and force more turnovers.
The thing Ben Howland never got credit for doing was convincing his players that every shot was a pass to them.
You want the ball? Get a rebound.
If we rebound well we should be able to score more and turn it over less.
 
If you don’t shoot 3s you can’t make 3s.
If you don’t shoot 3s the defense can pack it into a space and force more turnovers.
The thing Ben Howland never got credit for doing was convincing his players that every shot was a pass to them.
You want the ball? Get a rebound.
If we rebound well we should be able to score more and turn it over less.
Great point. What’s the point of someone who seemingly knows angles like Hugley and someone like Mo if you’re not telling them to get every 3 missed. You have to experiment with this team. Maybe they’ll go in.
 
It's early, but we can still
see some reasons for our
FT shooting woes. As a team
we're shooting 53%. This
is awful. It's not just Femi.
BTW, he's 45% from the
field which is ok, but 47%
on FT's...pathetic.
As for 3's, we're shooting
22%. That also is awful.
When you can't shoot FT's,
you're not gonna make 3's
either.

Capel said we're a poor
shooting team....true.
I'm sure they practice it,
ALL teams do. In my
experience bad FT shooting
is more mental than anything
else. If you practice it over
and over, 80% or better is a
norm for players at this level,
in practice. 70% or higher is
the game time expectation
for a player at this level.

At this point our two bigs
are our two best FT shooters,
Hugley at 70%, Gueye at 60%.
The sample after three games
obviously is small, and will
undoubtedly improve.
But still........
 
But as said above--Capel is still experimenting way too much for already being 3 games in (not counting a secret scrimmage and an exhibition before the season) and IMHO it shouldn't be that way.


It's almost as if he lost two guys who were expected to play big minutes just a couple weeks ago and just got another guy who was expected to play big minutes back from an injury last night that kept him from practicing for basically all of the preseason.

We really don't know why he is still experimenting at this point? Really?
 
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I’m not sure what my point is by saying this but Brandin Knight shot 53% from the line during his Pitt career, including just 44% during his All-American junior year.

The extreme amount of time Brandin and the staff put in to fix his foul shooting was very well documented. In fact, there was an instance when they decided NOT to have Brandin practice foul shots because all the work was not helping.


Aw, come on DT, we all know that the only reason that someone isn't at least a decent foul shooter is because they don't want to be and they aren't willing to put in the practice.

This Brandin Knight fellow you are talking about must have been a real loser.
 
Yeah, 1,000 people is probably a little generous.
Do they intentionally want to make themselves look foolish, or do they think that people will actually believe these made up numbers? Why not go all in and announce that the score of the game was 91-51 - Pitt could go undefeated at home with this kind of creative score-keeping.
 
Do they intentionally want to make themselves look foolish, or do they think that people will actually believe these made up numbers?


I've said this before about some of the silly numbers they have announced for football games over the years. It's unbecoming of an institution of higher learning to so blatantly lie about something so completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Saying that there were 7,281 people there when in reality it probably wasn't 1,000 is every bit as embarrassing as there only being 1,000 people there last night.
 
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I've said this before about some of the silly numbers they have announced for football games over the years. It's unbecoming of an institution of higher learning to so blatantly lie about something so completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Saying that there were 7,281 people there when in reality it probably wasn't 1,000 is every bit as embarrassing as there only being 1,000 people there last night.
Maybe they are counting the spirit animals of everyone at the game - I am sure each of you has at least 6.
Maybe if you count every different person whos bought a ticket to any game this season there might be 7200 people .
You wonder whose benefit it‘s for to so blatantly lie about the attendance?
 
I've said this before about some of the silly numbers they have announced for football games over the years. It's unbecoming of an institution of higher learning to so blatantly lie about something so completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Saying that there were 7,281 people there when in reality it probably wasn't 1,000 is every bit as embarrassing as there only being 1,000 people there last night.

I have said before they shouldn't announce the attendance. Do they have to? In this era of "fake news," they shouldn't be completely lying about attendance. An AD that has to lie about attendance to save face is a sign maybe a change needs to be made in that position. How many other jobs allow you to lie to make it seem like you are better at your job?
 
From TV, the crowd looked bigger than I thought. Probably around 1000 in the regular seats and 500 or so in the student section. I would have guessed only 200-300 regular fans.


There is no way there were 1,000 fans in the regular seats, and there weren't 500 in the student section either. You could have fit all the students into three sections and had plenty of space for more.
 
There is no way there were 1,000 fans in the regular seats, and there weren't 500 in the student section either. You could have fit all the students into three sections and had plenty of space for more.
1,000 tops ... only over that if you count every possible person like the band, cheerleaders, officials at the on court tables, teams and staff, etc.
 
I know nothing about coaching shooting. But from my amateur experience and amateur observation, poor shooters don’t put enough arc on the ball.

In practice, I’d set up a plexiglass barrier that would force each shooter to arc their foul shots at the optimum launch angle…

Crazy, but what do they have to lose…

Go Pitt.
 
** What’s tough for this Pitt fan, and I assume any Pitt fan, is how to view or frame a season such as this to gain any enjoyment at all.

** What is success? Is it improvement? Is it achieving somewhere above already low expectations? Is it watching a few of our better players mature and demonstrate real talent for the future?

** Unfortunately, in present day college basketball, it’s almost hard seeing good players on a bad team growing and achieving, knowing that they may just be auditioning for greener pastures.

** A wise Pitt Hoops fan once wrote on these message boards that the goal of any team should be to become the best team they can be. I’ve since then always subscribed to that mantra, even if it’s hard like it is with this squad to create a picture in one’s mind just what that would look like.

** I’m sure there are plenty of Pitt fans who would submit that success this year can actually be defined by the team grabbing the least possible level of success, thinking this will hasten the exit of the man in charge. While I can understand the logic in such a belief, I just can’t go into a season hoping for the Panthers to lose. At least not three games in.

** All of this to say that I’m glad the Panthers won tonight. But I can’t say that I really enjoyed it. Especially the second half.

** In his post game show, HC Jeff Capel said his team was going to need to have to win ugly this year. Well, if that’s the case, then mission accomplished I guess. However, I don’t think barely holding off a sub 250 Pomeroy ranked team is the kind of ugly is what any coach can be looking for.

** In fact, I don’t think this was winning ugly. It was more like winning ineptly, even there’s even such a thing.

** Perhaps that’s a little bit too harsh. There was some decent defense for many stretches during the game, particularly in the final minutes. And Big John was a rock on the glass. So was Will for stretches when he seemed to soar in for rebounds. Generally speaking, we kept dribblers in front of us, and communicated and switched, at least enough to get the job done even if this was a poor opponent.

** My concern with the defense though is that we don’t really look to force turnovers, nor push opponents to make mistakes. We are just playing straight up per se, and when your offense can’t score, eventually an opponent is going to catch up, even a bad one like the Seahawks.

** So of course, I could go on and on about our offensive ineptitude. There’s a long list of problems. At the top of the list, it’s not even just that we can’t shoot the ball from three. It’s that we don’t even shoot the ball from three.

** Watching the Panthers play offense made me wonder just want that game plan is. Maybe sometimes it’s to dump the ball to Big John and have him look for cutters. That worked a little in the first half, and John is a decent enough passer.

** But that was cut off in the second half after two quick buckets, and that left almost no way for the Panthers to score. Our last basket came at the 8:40 mark, and that was after a scramble following an offensive rebound. It was only one of 7 second half baskets. And not one of those was a jump shot. That’s kind of scary really.

** It also can’t be said that the Panthers passed up many jump shots. They really don’t get any.

** I’m wondering why just about every team in college basketball (or the pros, or even high school for that matter) can get the drive and pass for the open three corner fairly easily, but this does not even seem to be a strategy we employ.

** Knowing that we have one decent outside shooter in Nate Santos, who seems somewhat skilled at moving without the ball, why aren’t we running anything to get him shots? Nate didn’t get a single jump shot today.

** Regardless, whether it’s from poor design or poor execution, there isn’t a team above an eight grade level who can be the best team they can be when only shooting four three point shots in a game. It’s become far too an important part of the game.

** Going further, our guards and wings shot just two threes, while the other two were from our center, one of which was really ill advised.

** We know we just don’t have the skill to become anywhere close to being an even decent three point shooting team. But is 4-14 in a game too much to ask?

** Mr. Burton was a welcome addition to the fray today, and he played pretty well considering it was his first action. He seems like he has a head for the game, so hopefully he’ll work to improve this horrible deficit in the Panther offense.

** Three days from now, he’d better be because the way we played tonight on offense just might not be enough to garner a win against a like Towson who is at least a little better than UNCW.

** Through these words tonight, I can’t say I’ve come anywhere close to determining any worthwhile way to frame this season, let alone enjoy it. So I’ll settle for us getting a little better on Friday, watching a team that actually seems to have a better plan on offense.

** Even if we play with a better plan, there’s the huge question of whether or not we have anywhere near the skill to pull it off. But it would be a start.
I guess I get how upset some are, but I really don’t get or understand how you can’t have any fun while watching the team play. If you love your school and you love college basketball, then watching your team play should not be a hardship and if it is, maybe you should find another hobby. I’ll take it one step further for those rooting for this team to lose because they want a new coach. That is about as pathetic as it gets.

Life can be very tough when you work hard each day and then you run around taking your kids all kinds of places and before you know it, the day is over. I’ve been there and it is not fun and causes tons of stress and anxiety. This should not do the same.

Yeah, we aren’t very good right now, and we may not be any good all year long and even for the next 2 or 3 years, but I am going to take it one game at a time and hope that we continue to get better. Many of you were upset at the lack of effort the last few years and this team gives effort. Many of your were upset that we didn’t rebound or play defense and this team is doing every little thing they can to win games.

I get it, it is frustrating. I also see that the guys are working hard and giving their best effort and because of that, I am going to give my best effort to support them. Maybe I am being too sappy here, but if we can’t support this team and be there for them, then we also can’t get all pissed off at them when Capel is gone and they all transfer because their time at Pitt was horrible and they weren’t supported.
 
I guess I get how upset some are, but I really don’t get or understand how you can’t have any fun while watching the team play. If you love your school and you love college basketball, then watching your team play should not be a hardship and if it is, maybe you should find another hobby. I’ll take it one step further for those rooting for this team to lose because they want a new coach. That is about as pathetic as it gets.

Life can be very tough when you work hard each day and then you run around taking your kids all kinds of places and before you know it, the day is over. I’ve been there and it is not fun and causes tons of stress and anxiety. This should not do the same.

Yeah, we aren’t very good right now, and we may not be any good all year long and even for the next 2 or 3 years, but I am going to take it one game at a time and hope that we continue to get better. Many of you were upset at the lack of effort the last few years and this team gives effort. Many of your were upset that we didn’t rebound or play defense and this team is doing every little thing they can to win games.

I get it, it is frustrating. I also see that the guys are working hard and giving their best effort and because of that, I am going to give my best effort to support them. Maybe I am being too sappy here, but if we can’t support this team and be there for them, then we also can’t get all pissed off at them when Capel is gone and they all transfer because their time at Pitt was horrible and they weren’t supported.
Well ... I’m there, aren’t I?
 
I guess I get how upset some are, but I really don’t get or understand how you can’t have any fun while watching the team play. If you love your school and you love college basketball, then watching your team play should not be a hardship and if it is, maybe you should find another hobby. I’ll take it one step further for those rooting for this team to lose because they want a new coach. That is about as pathetic as it gets.

Life can be very tough when you work hard each day and then you run around taking your kids all kinds of places and before you know it, the day is over. I’ve been there and it is not fun and causes tons of stress and anxiety. This should not do the same.

Yeah, we aren’t very good right now, and we may not be any good all year long and even for the next 2 or 3 years, but I am going to take it one game at a time and hope that we continue to get better. Many of you were upset at the lack of effort the last few years and this team gives effort. Many of your were upset that we didn’t rebound or play defense and this team is doing every little thing they can to win games.

I get it, it is frustrating. I also see that the guys are working hard and giving their best effort and because of that, I am going to give my best effort to support them. Maybe I am being too sappy here, but if we can’t support this team and be there for them, then we also can’t get all pissed off at them when Capel is gone and they all transfer because their time at Pitt was horrible and they weren’t supported.
Agree

And this may sound crazy, but with the way Hugley is playing, if we get Horton back and Capel is capable of figuring out the rest of the front court, I think we can be competitive in a lot of games.

It sure as hell would be nice to still have Nike.
 
Also ... the official attendance was 7,281 which was at least 6,281 too high wouldn't you think?
I was at the Northwestern vs New Orleans game (at Northwestern) at the same time as the Pitt game. Entertaining game. Attendance c/not have been over 1,000. No traffic !
 
Pitt basketball games are one of the highlights of my winter months. has been since the late 1960's. I am happier when they win, grumpier when they lose. I root for them to win every game. I am rooting for Capel to find his mojo. I am rooting for each of the players to come together as a team, play hard, be classy, get better. I hope they all stay at Pitt and improve. when one of them puts their name in the transfer portal, I will be grumpy. when we recruit a really good player, I will be happy, but guarded, because too many don't make it. the recruiting news is nice, but I can't follow too much, as putting a lot of effort or excitement into it, only to see the kid go somewhere else at the last minute, or de-committ, is too frustrating. we have a few kids on the team today that could become good ACC players, if they stay at Pitt. there is too much negativity in life ! I avoid the Pitt board after a Pitt loss in football or hoops, for a couple days. Have a great day !
 
I guess I get how upset some are, but I really don’t get or understand how you can’t have any fun while watching the team play. If you love your school and you love college basketball, then watching your team play should not be a hardship and if it is, maybe you should find another hobby. I’ll take it one step further for those rooting for this team to lose because they want a new coach. That is about as pathetic as it gets.

Life can be very tough when you work hard each day and then you run around taking your kids all kinds of places and before you know it, the day is over. I’ve been there and it is not fun and causes tons of stress and anxiety. This should not do the same.

Yeah, we aren’t very good right now, and we may not be any good all year long and even for the next 2 or 3 years, but I am going to take it one game at a time and hope that we continue to get better. Many of you were upset at the lack of effort the last few years and this team gives effort. Many of your were upset that we didn’t rebound or play defense and this team is doing every little thing they can to win games.

I get it, it is frustrating. I also see that the guys are working hard and giving their best effort and because of that, I am going to give my best effort to support them. Maybe I am being too sappy here, but if we can’t support this team and be there for them, then we also can’t get all pissed off at them when Capel is gone and they all transfer because their time at Pitt was horrible and they weren’t supported.
A lot of people seem to forget it’s just a game for 99.999% of people and those of us on a message board are just observers .

As a fan if the frustration becomes too much for you just stop supporting or following the team is your best option to force a change . By the way the Pete has returned to Stallings like attendance and this isn’t going unnoticed by Heather and her bosses . I’m sure donation$ have suffered too .

People also seem to get hung up on the salaries involved in sports , I know indirectly we pay these , but no ones forcing universities or owners to pay these incredible sums of money to coaches (and players ) if it wasn’t in their financial interest to do so . So stop whinnying about how much money JC is getting paid , Pitt gladly offered and then extended his contract and Heather isn’t alone in making these decisions with the amount of money involved . JC shows up to work and by all accounts puts in a full day of work unfortunately the results aren’t there . When Pitt finally decides the results are unacceptable and it’s in their financial interest to make a change they will .
 
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In this day and age how can we not have a couple of players capable of hitting some stand up uncontested three pointers on a consistent basis?
 
I was at the Northwestern vs New Orleans game (at Northwestern) at the same time as the Pitt game. Entertaining game. Attendance c/not have been over 1,000. No traffic !

I suspect attendance is still hurting everywhere, some covid related and just generally over the last several years, it's slipped in many places.
 
I guess I get how upset some are, but I really don’t get or understand how you can’t have any fun while watching the team play. If you love your school and you love college basketball, then watching your team play should not be a hardship and if it is, maybe you should find another hobby. I’ll take it one step further for those rooting for this team to lose because they want a new coach. That is about as pathetic as it gets.

Life can be very tough when you work hard each day and then you run around taking your kids all kinds of places and before you know it, the day is over. I’ve been there and it is not fun and causes tons of stress and anxiety. This should not do the same.

Yeah, we aren’t very good right now, and we may not be any good all year long and even for the next 2 or 3 years, but I am going to take it one game at a time and hope that we continue to get better. Many of you were upset at the lack of effort the last few years and this team gives effort. Many of your were upset that we didn’t rebound or play defense and this team is doing every little thing they can to win games.

I get it, it is frustrating. I also see that the guys are working hard and giving their best effort and because of that, I am going to give my best effort to support them. Maybe I am being too sappy here, but if we can’t support this team and be there for them, then we also can’t get all pissed off at them when Capel is gone and they all transfer because their time at Pitt was horrible and they weren’t supported.
‘If you love your school and you love college basketball, then watching your team play should not be a hardship’

I think it’s actually the opposite. If you’re watching primarily because you love your school than yeah, it may be disappointing or frustrating but it shouldn’t be a hardship.

But if you really love and are a pure fan of college BB as well as being a fan of your school, it’s got to be a lot tougher to accept what you’re watching both short-term as well as long-term progress-wise.
 
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