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Jarrod West

We are looking at 3 OSL kids.

When Sunday starts to lose weight and get in better shape in a strength and conditioning program like Hugley did, his offer sheet is going to take off and things are going to get much tougher. But we have been on him early.
Are they looking back at us?
 
WVU now involved I'm told
I would be surprised if West is interested in WVU and WVU is interested in West....I could be wrong and things change, but....

I would guess West ends up in Oakland. Close to home, definite opportunity, etc. He would also have big time opportunity 30 minutes from his hometown in Mo-town but WVU is focused on a specific target.
 
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Really looking forward to West passing to AKC for some easy dunks...whoops.

None of this matters. You literally need a department in your program to track departures and arrivals like flight control at a major airport.
 
Just listened to peaks podcast. Said Louisville making a strong push for west. Concerning...I think I need a morning lock call from bball insider for assurance...
It was deleted pretty fast but yesterday some guy who called himself a Louisville donor posted here that West is committing to them today. Claimed he had inside information. So I hope this Louisville thing is just hot air. We'll know soon I guess.
 
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A lot of excitement about a 12 PPG game from CUSA. He will be Horton/Sibande. A nice reserve at the P6 level.

Nobody is doing cartwheels but who’d you rather have playing minutes, Onye or this guy?

He’s a legit plus defender who will be a leader and can handle the ball. This team can use that.

No, he’s not going to lead us to the Final 4.
 
Nobody is doing cartwheels but who’d you rather have playing minutes, Onye or this guy?

He’s a legit plus defender who will be a leader and can handle the ball. This team can use that.

No, he’s not going to lead us to the Final 4.

I get all that and yes he is a better option than Onye but unless Champagnie comes back AND we get a legit 5, this team is starting at 3-17/2-18 so I cant get excited about these guys. Now, lets say we get Reid and Champagnie decides tomorrow to take his name out, then yes, I'd be excited about adding pieces for what I would view as a team that can get to the NCAAT
 
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Nobody is doing cartwheels but who’d you rather have playing minutes, Onye or this guy?

He’s a legit plus defender who will be a leader and can handle the ball. This team can use that.

No, he’s not going to lead us to the Final 4.

West / TJ Mcconnell before the transfer to the Power 6

Points per game

West-12.5 ppg
TJ- 11.4 ppg

Assists

West-6 per game
TJ-5.5 per game

Rebounds

West-3.4
TJ-4.4

FG %

West- 46%
TJ-51%

3 point %

West- 43%
TJ-41%

ORTG offensive power rating

West-115
TJ-113

Steals per game

West- 2.5
TJ- 2.8

All Conference Defensive Selections

West- 2
TJ-3

Turnovers per game

West-2.1
TJ- 2.6

Height

West-5'11
TJ- 6'1


Its a good solid quality addition. No, Jarrod West is not the 5 star 2nd coming of Magic Johnson. He is indeed a solid pickup on both ends of the floor.
 
West / TJ Mcconnell before the transfer to the Power 6

Points per game

West-12.5 ppg
TJ- 11.4 ppg

Assists

West-6 per game
TJ-5.5 per game

Rebounds

West-3.4
TJ-4.4

FG %

West- 46%
TJ-51%

3 point %

West- 43%
TJ-41%

ORTG offensive power rating

West-115
TJ-113

Steals per game

West- 2.5
TJ- 2.8

All Conference Defensive Selections

West- 2
TJ-3

Turnovers per game

West-2.1
TJ- 2.6

Height

West-5'11
TJ- 6'1


Its a good solid quality addition. No, Jarrod West is not the 5 star 2nd coming of Magic Johnson. He is indeed a solid pickup on both ends of the floor.
Conference USA is a 1 bid league and that was when the A10 was rolling. This is why people don’t take you seriously. He’s not close to the level of TJ. He’s a solid pickup especially as a 1 year rental but you just put unrealistic expectations on every kid by doing stuff like this.
 
Conference USA is a 1 bid league and that was when the A10 was rolling. This is why people don’t take you seriously. He’s not close to the level of TJ. He’s a solid pickup especially as a 1 year rental but you just put unrealistic expectations on every kid by doing stuff like this.

It was a simple numbers comparison between two small players from a non power 6. And spare me your bullshit because you are more times than not full of it.


"Ithiel Horton will not be able to shoot against athletic acc backcourts with the line further back. Ithiel Horton is blah blah blah bad and will shoot 30% from 3 per bballinsider" This is the type of stuff from you constantly.



Ithiel Horton averaged 10 points per game in ACC conference play with an ORTG of 106 in acc conference play and shot 39% from 3 point range in ACC conference play.

Apparently, he can shoot and play in the acc like I said he could.
 
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It was a simple numbers comparison between two small players from a non power 6. And spare me your bullshit because you are more times than not full of it.


"Ithiel Horton will not be able to shoot against athletic acc backcourts with the line further back. Ithiel Horton is blah blah blah bad and will shoot 30% from 3 per bballinsider" This is the type of stuff from you constantly.



Ithiel Horton averaged 10 points per game in ACC conference play with an ORTG of 106 in acc conference play and shot 39% from 3 point range in ACC conference play.

Apparently, he can shoot and play in the acc like I said he could.
He averaged 8.9 PPG. I predicted 8. I was right, per usual. That’s why he’s being recruited over. Because he’s so bad on defense 8 PPG is not enough.
 
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He averaged 8.9 PPG. I predicted 8. I was right, per usual. That’s why he’s being recruited over. Because he’s so bad on defense 8 PPG is not enough.

The only feather in your cap is that Horton came out of the gate extremely slow after not playing a single basketball game in 2 years after the redshirt year. He scored 5 against St. Francis, 2 against Gardner Webb, 5 against Drexel, and 0 against Northwestern, all games at the start of the season.

That type of stuff is irrelevant. I want to know what a player does in league play as I constantly separate conference from non conference. Its why your favorite player Trey Mcgowens is a pretender. He always juices his numbers against garbage teams in the non conference then full collapses in conference play.

Horton can play in the ACC. The ACC stats are what matters, not stats in game 1 against St. Francis. He wont start slow next year since there wont be a 2 year hiatus like last time.
 
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He averaged 8.9 PPG. I predicted 8. I was right, per usual. That’s why he’s being recruited over. Because he’s so bad on defense 8 PPG is not enough.
Defense is the key, which is part of Vader’s original point. In my mind, I would never compare West to TJ, but in the college game his defense will make us a lot better. Oh how quickly some forget about our perimeter defense in 2021. There are a couple games that we likely win if he were with us this year. I really appreciate your insight on this one and hoping you’re right. It’s the first shoe to drop.
 
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Conference USA is a 1 bid league and that was when the A10 was rolling. This is why people don’t take you seriously. He’s not close to the level of TJ. He’s a solid pickup especially as a 1 year rental but you just put unrealistic expectations on every kid by doing stuff like this.

CUSA is probably closer to the NEC than it was to when the A10 had Xavier and a really good Temple team.

His over the top optimism borders on cult-type belief.
 
The only feather in your cap is that Horton came out of the gate extremely slow after not playing a single basketball game in 2 years after the redshirt year. He scored 5 against St. Francis, 2 against Gardner Webb, 5 against Drexel, and 0 against Northwestern, all games at the start of the season.

That type of stuff is irrelevant. I want to know what a player does in league play as I constantly separate conference from non conference. Its why your favorite player Trey Mcgowens is a pretender. He always juices his numbers against garbage teams in the non conference then full collapses in conference play.

Horton can play in the ACC. The ACC stats are what matters, not stats in game 1 against St. Francis. He wont start slow next year since there wont be a 2 year hiatus like last time.
As with the ridiculous expectations set on him by Jeff Capel “as the best scorer in the ACC”, you’re putting expectations on him he won’t meet next year. He will have been scouted and will be a bit player. His numbers will go down next year.
 
Defense is the key, which is part of Vader’s original point. In my mind, I would never compare West to TJ, but in the college game his defense will make us a lot better. Oh how quickly some forget about our perimeter defense in 2021. There are a couple games that we likely win if he were with us this year. I really appreciate your insight on this one and hoping you’re right. It’s the first shoe to drop.


It was a simple numbers comparison and that's it, I even used the word "simple".. Part of the reason I even said that was because SMF said he only scored 12 points per game. There's more to basketball than scoring.
 
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It was a simple numbers comparison and that's it, I even used the word "simple".. Part of the reason I even said that was because SMF said he only scored 12 points per game. There's more to basketball than scoring.
Yeah but Horton didn’t do anything but stand outside and shoot 3’s.
 
Nobody is doing cartwheels but who’d you rather have playing minutes, Onye or this guy?

He’s a legit plus defender who will be a leader and can handle the ball. This team can use that.

No, he’s not going to lead us to the Final 4.
We need his defense. Too many open 3's the last few years.
 
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As with the ridiculous expectations set on him by Jeff Capel “as the best scorer in the ACC”, you’re putting expectations on him he won’t meet next year. He will have been scouted and will be a bit player. His numbers will go down next year.

Let your hate go bro.

Its like what you said about Femi. "Pitt beat Umass for Femi and no one wanted or recruited Femi, Femi is blah blah blah bad. Femi cant play in the ACC. 5 games into his college career coming off a broken arm, hey Vader, your boy Femi is horrible, I told you so Vader, Femi sucks". blah blah blah.



You look like a dumbass because you underrated a NY point guard and said the same bs over and over again. I generally let things like this slide but since you are a loudmouth know it all others need reminded.

How's that Femi bs you posted look now? Stay in your recruiting lane, not your basketball analysis lane.
 
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Let your hate go bro.

Its like what you said about Femi. "Pitt beat Umass for Femi and no one wanted or recruited Femi, Femi is blah blah blah bad. Femi cant play in the ACC. 5 games into his college career coming off a broken arm, hey Vader, your boy Femi is horrible, I told you so Vader, Femi sucks". blah blah blah.



You look like a dumbass because you underrated a NY point guard and said the same bs over and over again. I generally let things like this slide but since you are a loudmouth know it all others need reminded.

How's that Femi bs you posted look now? Stay in your recruiting lane, not your basketball analysis lane.
Hmmm.... I thought Hate lead to the dark side.....Vader should be telling people to give into their hate?! not let it go -- starting to wonder which side you are really on.... dark or light.... Luke is that you, wearing dad's suit?
 
West is a nice solid addition.
I'm happy we are getting him.
Good defense, solid shooter, good decision maker.
Good start to this class.
We'll have a solid backcourt.
Now its time to get the rest of the pieces.
 
Hmmm.... I thought Hate lead to the dark side.....Vader should be telling people to give into their hate?! not let it go -- starting to wonder which side you are really on.... dark or light.... Luke is that you, wearing dad's suit?

Jokes aside.

Just to say this openly before someone miss characterizes me.

I get things wrong too. I predict or say things that are proven to not be accurate all the time. I don't have an issue saying that or admitting that when I get something wrong. I "dont" have all the answers.

There, I feel better saying that.
 
Jokes aside.

Just to say this openly before someone miss characterizes me.

I get things wrong too. I predict or say things that are proven to not be accurate all the time. I don't have an issue saying that or admitting that when I get something wrong. I "dont" have all the answers.

There, I feel better saying that.
Refreshing

Some never admit when they were wrong.
 
Let your hate go bro.

Its like what you said about Femi. "Pitt beat Umass for Femi and no one wanted or recruited Femi, Femi is blah blah blah bad. Femi cant play in the ACC. 5 games into his college career coming off a broken arm, hey Vader, your boy Femi is horrible, I told you so Vader, Femi sucks". blah blah blah.



You look like a dumbass because you underrated a NY point guard and said the same bs over and over again. I generally let things like this slide but since you are a loudmouth know it all others need reminded.

How's that Femi bs you posted look now? Stay in your recruiting lane, not your basketball analysis lane.
Lol. Femi had an OK freshmen year as a 20 year old. Will be interesting to see how he is as the focus of the offense next year when he is scouted. You LOVE small sample sizes on bad teams. I don’t. It’s why I’m correct more often than you. Which is every time.

And it isn’t “hate”. It’s not putting ridiculous expectations on a kid like comparing Jarrod West to a multi year NBA player. It’s dumb. You do this all the time to overhype Pitt recruits.
 
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It’s why I’m correct more often than you. Which is every time.

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Defense is the key, which is part of Vader’s original point. In my mind, I would never compare West to TJ, but in the college game his defense will make us a lot better. Oh how quickly some forget about our perimeter defense in 2021. There are a couple games that we likely win if he were with us this year. I really appreciate your insight on this one and hoping you’re right. It’s the first shoe to drop.

I will agree that defense translates.
It was a simple numbers comparison and that's it, I even used the word "simple".. Part of the reason I even said that was because SMF said he only scored 12 points per game. There's more to basketball than scoring.

Yes there is but 12 PPG in CUSA equals 5 in the ACC
 
I will agree that defense translates.

Yes there is but 12 PPG in CUSA equals 5 in the ACC
Luckily this is our least important signing.
Guard is where we have the most depth.
He's a solid team depth guy.
Thats what we needed.
The other pieces are what we need, we are desperate, at wing and bigs.
 
Does anyone know what time he is supposed to announce his decision? Does he have a press conference scheduled?
 
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