So are weI wasn’t trying to come off surly. Just concerned for the future.
Hence supporting vaccination
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So are weI wasn’t trying to come off surly. Just concerned for the future.
It hasn't gotten political yet. Discussing vaccines and attendance is not political. This is topical as it relates to Pitt.This thread might be too political, just like the all star game thread must have been. "That got deleted"
Why?Yeesh, I would hope Pitt is offering full refunds on season tickets if they're requiring proof of vaccination to get in.
except that you still need to wear a mask and socially distance apprently. also a certain news outlet keeps running stories on the 1 in a million chance you still get the virus as if this happens to 100 out of 100.There are few (if any) medical reasons not to get the Covid vaccine. Allergy to a component of the vaccine is one, and a history of a severe allergic reaction to another vaccine should be reviewed by a person's doctor before deciding to have the vaccine or not.
If all do as they should and get the vaccine, then those who can't like kma0043 will be protected by all of us stamping out the virus. Then kma0043 can get to Heinz and cheer on the Panthers.
EnjoyI’m enjoying A week in florida right now and no masks insight and I’m not yet vaccinated Hey PA it’s time to get over it and wake up to reality. Fauci will never say no masks are acceptable
Vaccines and covid 19 has been political for over a year, ask Joe, this is more political than why the MLB pulled the all star game from Georgia to coloradoIt hasn't gotten political yet. Discussing vaccines and attendance is not political. This is topical as it relates to Pitt.
Shouldn’t be PoliticVaccines and covid 19 has been political for over a year, ask Joe, this is more political than why the MLB pulled the all star game from Georgia to colorado
up in Minneapolis again for work. on tv the state girls basketball championship is on and the players while in the game are wearing masks. huh? the cdc in their mask guidance stated a wet mask us useless.Vaccines and covid 19 has been political for over a year, ask Joe, this is more political than why the MLB pulled the all star game from Georgia to colorado
pretty sure that goes both ways there skipShouldn’t be Politic
If certain leaders didn’t make masks a political purity test to loyalty to him -
We’d be in a better spot
There is no both wayspretty sure that goes both ways there skip
exactly it goes both waysThere is no both ways
Public health and safety are only politics to goofballs who check their common sense at the door
Vaccines and covid 19 has been political for over a year, ask Joe, this is more political than why the MLB pulled the all star game from Georgia to colorado
There aren’t two waysexactly it goes both ways
No, you should never need doctor's excuse to attend an event.No. You should be able to provide a doctor's excuse to get into private events.
No one should EVER be required to get a vaccine of any kind. We all have our rights to make decisons when it comes to our health care. If Pitt starts to require some form of proof that a person has been vaccinated for the Coronavirus, then people will have to make decisions if they want to attend a Pitt sporting event.There are few (if any) medical reasons not to get the Covid vaccine. Allergy to a component of the vaccine is one, and a history of a severe allergic reaction to another vaccine should be reviewed by a person's doctor before deciding to have the vaccine or not.
If all do as they should and get the vaccine, then those who can't like kma0043 will be protected by all of us stamping out the virus. Then kma0043 can get to Heinz and cheer on the Panthers.
No one should EVER be required to get a vaccine of any kind. We all have our rights to make decisons when it comes to our health care. If Pitt starts to require some form of proof that a person has been vaccinated for the Coronavirus, then people will have to make decisions if they want to attend a Pitt sporting event.
I seriously doubt that it ever gets to that point, because if it does, regardless of who is in charge politically, the United States of America that we all know, will be gone forever.
This doctor would disagree with you. And since he writes text books for doctors, I think I'll go with his medical opinion over all the board wannabe physicians.There are few (if any) medical reasons not to get the Covid vaccine. Allergy to a component of the vaccine is one, and a history of a severe allergic reaction to another vaccine should be reviewed by a person's doctor before deciding to have the vaccine or not.
If all do as they should and get the vaccine, then those who can't like kma0043 will be protected by all of us stamping out the virus. Then kma0043 can get to Heinz and cheer on the Panthers.
Well, I have a little bit in common with the great Dr Richard Fleming.This doctor would disagree with you. And since he writes text books for doctors, I think I'll go with his medical opinion over all the board wannabe physicians.
So TBH, I am glad both you and Dr Fleming disagree with me. That probably makes me right! I agree with the actual expert I discussed vaccination efforts with.
It’s the supposedly intelligent people buying into the crack pots as far worseI'm not sure which is worse, the number of crackpots that the pandemic has brought out of the woodwork, or the number of people who buy into whatever the crackpots are selling.
I really wasn't taking a pot shot at you. I know you're an MD and only used your post as a spring board to address that there are virtually no reasons not to get the vaccine. So, although I'm disappointed you went directly to "conspiracy theorist!" in an effort to avoid discussing the science, I'll take the blame for you taking my post personally and reacting as you did..Well, I have a little bit in common with the great Dr Richard Fleming.
MD: check
Writes textbooks for doctors: check (Well, chapters. I haven't written an entire book.)
Posts content on conspiracy websites: check. (Fleming on "Bases", where the most recent posting is about proof of aliens. Me: Pantherlair!)
Convicted felon: No check there. Me---No. Fleming: check.
Richard M. Fleming; Denial of Hearing; Final Debarment Order
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA or the Agency) is denying a request for a hearing submitted by Richard M. Fleming (Fleming) and is issuing an order under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act) debarring Fleming for 10 years from providing services in any capacity to a...www.federalregister.govA convicted felon writes a paper on hotly debated diets. What could go wrong?
Pro-tip for journals and publishers: When you decide to publish a paper about a subject — say, diets — that you know will draw a great deal of scrutiny from vocal proponents of alternat…retractionwatch.comA convicted felon wants people to enroll in a COVID-19 clinical trial. What could go wrong?
Richard Fleming Richard Fleming, a felon convicted of health care fraud who has been debarred by the US Food and Drug Administration, would like to invite you to participate in a clinical trial. Fl…retractionwatch.com
So TBH, I am glad both you and Dr Fleming disagree with me. That probably makes me right! I agree with the actual expert I discussed vaccination efforts with.
Most of us know there is no convincing those who are convinced of an anti-science platform -I really wasn't taking a pot shot at you. I know you're an MD and only used your post as a spring board to address that there are virtually no reasons not to get the vaccine. So, although I'm disappointed you went directly to "conspiracy theorist!" in an effort to avoid discussing the science, I'll take the blame for you taking my post personally and reacting as you did..
There's no doubting his achievements or his qualifications. My guess is that the billing fraud was some type of hit piece, but I'll look at it.
I have a problem with folks impugning the motives of those choosing not to take an experimental vaccine, (er, not even a vaccine actually but rather a "genetic modification technology"), when they don't know diddly squat about an issue.
BTW, feel free to put up any dissertation on the web by your "actual expert". And, oh, it's nice that you wrote a chapter for the text "History of rectal rashes among snipes on 15th century English Man of War ships". Truly fascinating stuff.
All kidding aside; why don't you watch the video a tell me what is false? Again, my "wannabe physician" comment was aimed at the typical uninformed poster on here, not you.
Haha, What pharmacist would that be? Sorry, I'll go with the arrogantly egotistical research doctor who has a PhD in physics, an MD and a JD over the board pill counter. The next time you post any actual data on here will be the first time.Most of us know there is no convincing those who are convinced of an anti-science platform -
Because they will always cling to a desperate notion contrary to common sense .
I’ve learned that no abundance of science and data will convert the true conspiracy believers
I learn who the lost causes are
And it’s the Venn perfect circle of the vaccine cause autism and COVID vaccine hesitation
fleming is a well know quack peaching To a choir or dopes
trust the pharmacist who actually understand how things are approved and who they interact with the body
You mean former and yes he’s a quackHaha, What pharmacist would that be? Sorry, I'll go with the arrogantly egotistical research doctor who has a PhD in physics, an MD and a JD over the board pill counter. The next time you post any actual data on here will be the first time.
Well, TBH, I did see you post some data years ago once...on another site.
I just posted a two hour interview that includes a detailed explanation of how COVID infects you, what the vaccines do and don't do, side effects of the vaccines and the potential risks due to the lack of compete testing. You can watch it and point out the errors, or talk your usual B.S. There are even videos of researchers admitting they were paid by the DoD to perform gain of function research. One gof researcher worked in North Carolina. You might have even bumped into him while in the john during some convention on how statins impact bat guano.
Oh, and I just came across a video by a UPMC biomedical senior researcher, James Lyons-Weiler who went through many of the initial vaccine studies and trials and details how they cherry picked their data and ended the studies where vaccines caused serious damage and/or autism. Can you say they cooked the studies? Can you say fraud? Funny how nobody is suing him for accusing them publicly of fraud.
Of course, UPMC researchers are well known quacks too, right?
Correct. He's an expert at reviewing studies and determining if they are valid, whereas you, from what I can tell from your posts, are experienced in what exactly....managing the inventory of pharmaceuticals at hospitals and clinics?You mean former and yes he’s a quack
Lyons-Weiler is a former University of Pittsburgh research scientist known as a prominent voice in the anti-vaccine movement.
He’s a statistician who likewise peddles to the anti-vaccine cult
I really wasn't taking a pot shot at you. I know you're an MD and only used your post as a spring board to address that there are virtually no reasons not to get the vaccine. So, although I'm disappointed you went directly to "conspiracy theorist!" in an effort to avoid discussing the science, I'll take the blame for you taking my post personally and reacting as you did..
There's no doubting his achievements or his qualifications. My guess is that the billing fraud was some type of hit piece, but I'll look at it.
I have a problem with folks impugning the motives of those choosing not to take an experimental vaccine, (er, not even a vaccine actually but rather a "genetic modification technology"), when they don't know diddly squat about an issue.
BTW, feel free to put up any dissertation on the web by your "actual expert". And, oh, it's nice that you wrote a chapter for the text "History of rectal rashes among snipes on 15th century English Man of War ships". Truly fascinating stuff.
All kidding aside; why don't you watch the video a tell me what is false? Again, my "wannabe physician" comment was aimed at the typical uninformed poster on here, not you.
I've watched it a couple times now, and then I've gone to other medical sources on line to check his claims. Plus other doctor articles and talks.Its a bit disturbing if you really watched a 2 hour and 30 minute lecture on vaccines. Why would you do that?
I am actually interested though in what this guy thinks. I'm not watching it so tell me please. I would guess, based on your wackiness on the other board, that he says the vaccine doesn't work and they are really implanting a Bill Gates-sponsored tracking device.
Yes I have no doubt you will go with your affirmation biasCorrect. He's an expert at reviewing studies and determining if they are valid, whereas you, from what I can tell from your posts, are experienced in what exactly....managing the inventory of pharmaceuticals at hospitals and clinics?
Again, I'll trust a "former" Director of Bioinformatics at the University of Pittsburgh and specializes in evolutionary biology and genetics, and clinical research principles as opposed to the poster who says he "understand(s) how things are approved" and peddles big pharma propaganda.
Thanks. Facts are facts though. The only bias is when you ignore the negative and I ignore the positive. The difference is I don't call people names who disagree. Not that you do, at least not directly. You're polite enough to infer insanity instead. I appreciate that.Yes I have no doubt you will go with your affirmation bias
be careful out there - high risk people don’t fair well with covid
Thanks. Facts are facts though. The only bias is when you ignore the negative and I ignore the positive. The difference is I don't call people names who disagree. Not that you do, at least not directly. You're polite enough to infer insanity instead. I appreciate that.
Be calm, and trust in the jab. I'll continue to shelter in yard work. My ribosomes are busy enough.
I call paranoia as I see itThanks. Facts are facts though. The only bias is when you ignore the negative and I ignore the positive. The difference is I don't call people names who disagree. Not that you do, at least not directly. You're polite enough to infer insanity instead. I appreciate that.
Be calm, and trust in the jab. I'll continue to shelter in yard work. My ribosomes are busy enough.
Your cognitive process fascinates me. Obviously, not just me, but most on the board as well. So, the host said words to which you've been conditioned to react, therefore the guest is "misrepresenting data". Normally I'd ask for an example, but my COPD won't allow me to hold my breath.I watched a little bit of your boy. I know nothing about the host but the very first thing on the intro theme says "Area 51" so he is obviously a conspiracy theorist. The doc is too. While I am sure some of what he says is true, he is an example of a partisan who is manipulating or misrepresenting data to prove what he wants to be true.
How do you even find this stuff? I get it, you're a conspiracy theorist, fine. But don't link other conspiracy theorists to back up your claims. You guys WANT to believe something and find others out there on obscure websites to validate your beliefs.
Look at the selective elitist !Your cognitive process fascinates me. Obviously, not just me, but most on the board as well. So, the host said words to which you've been conditioned to react, therefore the guest is "misrepresenting data". Normally I'd ask for an example, but my COPD won't allow me to hold my breath.
TBH, I am glad both you and @USN_Panther disagree with me. That makes it much less likely that he, although a smart dude, is right. I therefore feel much better now siding with the conspiracy theorist who earned three post graduate degrees. Thanks, SMH!
And I've seen them all. Doesn't mean everyone who disagrees with you is a grifter, nor does it change the fact that this is the first mRNA vaccine(s) approved for human use and without the traditional full testing.I call paranoia as I see it
Rest assured there are plenty of grifters out there willing to tell you exactly what you want to believe
I admitted to as much to you earlier. We all pick and choose. But I was comparing Fleming to SMH, ergo, apples and oranges.Look at the selective elitist !
Just ignore the post graduate degrees who disagree
Naiad has nothing to do with the approval processAnd I've seen them all. Doesn't mean everyone who disagrees with you is a grifter, nor does it change the fact that this is the first mRNA vaccine(s) approved for human use and without the traditional full testing.
Be calm and trust in the yard gnome who headed gain of function research at the NAIAD. Nahhh, no conflict of interest there, right? 😉
Your cognitive process fascinates me. Obviously, not just me, but most on the board as well. So, the host said words to which you've been conditioned to react, therefore the guest is "misrepresenting data". Normally I'd ask for an example, but my COPD won't allow me to hold my breath.
TBH, I am glad both you and @USN_Panther disagree with me. That makes it much less likely that he, although a smart dude, is right. I therefore feel much better now siding with the conspiracy theorist who earned three post graduate degrees. Thanks, SMH!
I only have two post graduate degreesI admitted to as much to you earlier. We all pick and choose. But I was comparing Fleming to SMH, ergo, apples and oranges.