Dude. You have this weird version of the world. If it doesn't happen in your radar, it doesn't exist. Whatever it is, sports, food, entertainment, if you don't like it or don't know it, you don't even consider that others and maybe many more than what you like do.
The brewpubs are not sustainable. No one needs or I cannot even imagine a market that craves that many "craft" beers. And these things are the ultimate of hipster activities, who move like locusts from one place to another when something new and shiny hits their radar. Wearing ski caps in 88 degree weather with ironic "I don't care" beards that are way too unruly.
yeah, he's nuts, agreed.
I NEVER HEARD OF DETROIT HOT DOGS UNTIL RIGHT NOW.
Pretty sure he's not alone in that way on this board. It really is like a study in anthropology.
I used to think this about 10 years into the microbrew trend that began in earnest in the early 90s. I think it's safe to say it's no longer a trend, it's firmly part of our economy in the U.S.
The Detroit style pizza never really had the broad fan base of the Detroit coney dog. Until the Food networks started focusing on it as they inevitably do and somebody started marketing it nationally a few years ago trying to turn it into the next Chicago Style pizza trend it was really just a local thing.
Sadly, you can’t get a classic NC hot dog in downtown NC. They are all closed. In the surrounding townships yes. A Coney Island is currently under construction in Shenango Twp. It is truly sad what is going on downtown. The PNC bank downtown just announced they are closing that location. It is a mess.
Don't want to feed you information too fast, but there is a "St. Louis style" pizza also.
In New Castle, they ladle their Coney sauce (chili) on top of their French fries and/or on top of their hamburger pattie also.
dear lord, now i got to google this.'
Again, all the FACTS you provide doesn't prove anything other than Detroit is way bigger than New Castle. There is no way to determine which is the best hot dog or best chili sauce, it's all opinion based. of course the Detroit version will have more votes than the New Castle version, that city is like 1000 times bigger. But you can't determine conclusively that it's ''better'', like you can't in any way PROVE that Memphis BBQ is better than Kansas City BBQ, or NY pizza is better than Chicago pizza, all you can prove is that Detroit hot dogs or sauce is more well known, there is no BETTER, each individual would have to taste all the versions and then have an opinion based on personal preference. And I do have Detroit and Michigan friends, maybe the topic never came up, I've visited there a couple times and we didn't go for hot dogs. I'd like to try their sauce, see how it stacks up?
no, very familiar with this since dave portnoy pizza and all he talks about is new haven being the pizza capitol of the world..
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just saying that I never heard of it, and I haven't, but there's no reason that I should concede that the version I'm not familiar with is "better", he's asking me to bow down to Detroit coneys, why would I if I know NC sauce and dogs are awesome and never tried theirs? He never tried the NC version, so how can he be sure Detroit is better? I'm the only one making the logical argument.
only on pantherlair can we argue about chili dogs..
How is this for irony...
I have a personal stake in NC chili and hot dogs, first off, they are actually great, people in Detroit can't actually say they aren't since they haven't tried them, and they also paid my college tuition. I never said the Detroit version sucks or is bad, I'm just loyal to the NC version until I would taste the Detroit version and feel like it's better. This guy is adamant that Detroit is better without ever trying NC? So, I'm the open-minded person in this conversation.
yeah, we have our opinions, no one is right or wrong. silly to be so "right or wrong" about taste preference.
There are 2 real pizza questions to me
betos is "lunchables" for adults. garbage product, and i'll die on that hill.
True story...
We have a Detroit pizza here in North Carolina. Their "pizza" is very good, but I have a hard time thinking of it as pizza. It is too thick and chewy. I just consider it a different Italian-style meal.
Then I have the same question. We just keep adding them here. Competition will inevitably drive some to close, but the overall number will be a relatively high percentage of restaurants (as a comparable business).
What she did was stir fry ground beef for an hour, the reason the NC chili liquifies is that it cooks like 12 hours and the beef and onions practically melt. I've heard people call it baby sh!t before too.
Might be one of the better, more civil, more well-reasoned, less political, less personal and more enjoyable debates every had on this board. Not to mention it's making me hungry. I give it two Coneys up--Detroit style of course 🌭🌭
All Detroit style is square deep dish. Not stuffed like Chicago style deep dish, but a deep square pan. Buddy's is the OG and face of Detroit Style pizza, but there are better offerings at smaller, less well-known places.
Likewise, I'd love to try those NC coney dogs. I think everyone would be a winner in a face-off.
After the "Coney wars" have reached a friendly and amicable truce, I'll introduce you to the "Margie Dog".
damn those look good..After the "Coney wars" have reached a friendly and amicable truce, I'll introduce you to the "Margie Dog".
This is named after the Mom of one of my childhood friends, who worked as a cook at a local bar/restaurant/dive and invented it in the 1960s. The "Margie Dogs" were ordered in bulk and delivered to many steelworkers/factory workers/office workers in the Shenango Valley.
Yes, a hot pepper sauce tops the hot dogs and it is DELICIOUS!
i always thought the detroit style was a thinner crust, made on a traditional cookie sheet/tray. but i could definitely be wrong.All Detroit style is square deep dish. Not stuffed like Chicago style deep dish, but a deep square pan. Buddy's is the OG and face of Detroit Style pizza, but there are better offerings at smaller, less well-known places.
FWIW, I don't think there's anything in the wide world of pizza better than a really well-made Chicago style stuffed pizza. Ironically, the best Chicago stuffed pizza I've ever had, and I've had all the top Chicago contenders, was at Pizza Papalis in Detroit's Greektown neighborhood.
All Detroit style is square deep dish. Not stuffed like Chicago style deep dish, but a deep square pan. Buddy's is the OG and face of Detroit Style pizza, but there are better offerings at smaller, less well-known places.
FWIW, I don't think there's anything in the wide world of pizza better than a really well-made Chicago style stuffed pizza. Ironically, the best Chicago stuffed pizza I've ever had, and I've had all the top Chicago contenders, was at Pizza Papalis in Detroit's Greektown neighborhood.
It's different, the chili is supposed to be poured above the onions, I'm sure it's good, that looks like my dad in another lifeMight be one of the better, more civil, more well-reasoned, less political, less personal and more enjoyable debates every had on this board. Not to mention it's making me hungry. I give it two Coneys up--Detroit style of course 🌭🌭
Looks good, like putting hot salsa on a dog.After the "Coney wars" have reached a friendly and amicable truce, I'll introduce you to the "Margie Dog".
This is named after the Mom of one of my childhood friends, who worked as a cook at a local bar/restaurant/dive and invented it in the 1960s. The "Margie Dogs" were ordered in bulk and delivered to many steelworkers/factory workers/office workers in the Shenango Valley.
Yes, a hot pepper sauce tops the hot dogs and it is DELICIOUS!
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All Detroit style is square deep dish. Not stuffed like Chicago style deep dish, but a deep square pan. Buddy's is the OG and face of Detroit Style pizza, but there are better offerings at smaller, less well-known places.
FWIW, I don't think there's anything in the wide world of pizza better than a really well-made Chicago style stuffed pizza. Ironically, the best Chicago stuffed pizza I've ever had, and I've had all the top Chicago contenders, was at Pizza Papalis in Detroit's Greektown neighborhood.
