He’s no maholme . He’s going to NYC so he will stand to make a fortune before he ever throws a pass . Nice to see him carve up ND.
Mahommes is on track to be the greatest QB ever. Saying Lawrence “is no Mahommes” isn’t exactly a slight.
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He’s no maholme . He’s going to NYC so he will stand to make a fortune before he ever throws a pass . Nice to see him carve up ND.
Vince Young says Hi.He is so much better than anyone else in contention. He is the best college football player in the last 20 years that I can think of. Tebow won a couple titles, but he isn’t even close to Lawrence.
Trevor Lawrence says hold my jock strap. Young had 18 TD’s and 18 INT’s in his first 2 years. He had one really good year.Vince Young says Hi.
He should
That’s a dumpster heap of an organization
Even cleveland got their shit together
Young singlehanded.y won a national championship by himself. Against a loaded USC team - I’m not downplaying Lawrence’s skill or impact but Clemson is loaded at every skill position - UT...had basically no one but Young.Trevor Lawrence says hold my jock strap. Young had 18 TD’s and 18 INT’s in his first 2 years. He had one really good year.
He was playing with 3 - 1st Team All Americans and 2 - 3rd Team All Americans. You serious Clark?Young singlehanded.y won a national championship by himself. Against a loaded USC team - I’m not downplaying Lawrence’s skill or impact but Clemson is loaded at every skill position - UT...had basically no one but Young.
Young singlehanded.y won a national championship by himself. Against a loaded USC team - I’m not downplaying Lawrence’s skill or impact but Clemson is loaded at every skill position - UT...had basically no one but Young.
There's a big difference between best college player and best individual season. If we're talking best individual season, Cam's title run at Auburn is better than anything Lawrence or Young have done.
That would be a crime. Jason White has one.
I thought the word on the street was that the Jets were drafting Lawrence at #1 and then moving Darnold to the Steelers for a 5th rounder. Frankly I think that’s a good move for the Steelers. Darnold is first round pedigreed but has been given complete trash to work with. Put him behind a decent line with the Steelers receiving corps to bail him out and watch him make a Pro Bowl in a few years.
The Steelers may or may not be able to secure a coach as good as Tomlin, but given their history I would expect it would not be a severe drop off. Especially if that new coach had Trevor Lawrence and a lot of other talent to work with.
On the other hand I don’t see the Mike Tomlin/Sam Darnold combination lighting the world on fire.
There is no way any sane person would make this deal unless it included Tomlin and a couple #1’s as well.
Which is why the trophy is a joke. On last night’s Alabama-Florida game, the announcers were changing their choice after every play either of the qb’s made. What nonsense.Yea - I’m not saying he is going to win the Heisman. But he is hands down the best player.
Name one of them that’s on par with what Clemson has?He was playing with 3 - 1st Team All Americans and 2 - 3rd Team All Americans. You serious Clark?
Name one of them that’s on par with what Clemson has?
Edit: Young reached a win/loss record as a starter of 30–2, ranking him #1 of all University of Texas quarterbacks by number of wins.
Good luck out tanking the Jets.I’m very surprisingly pleased the stillers won 11 games so far -
But if there was a player to actually tank for-
Trevor is that QB
Watching the Bama game last night, I was so impressed with Kyle Pitts. I think TL and Pitts may be the most impactful players coming out of this class.
Btw, greatest player ever? Cant argue with TL, my immediate reaction was Lawrence Taylor at UNC
I am surprised by the number of people who believe TL,or any player, is a sure thing at the next level. Don't get me wrong, I believe he is a college great, but it is a different game at the next level particularly at that position (same could be said from hs to D1) and for that reason we could go and on about "Can't miss" draftees that were complete busts, let alone just average players with solid careers.
3 year track recordI am surprised by the number of people who believe TL,or any player, is a sure thing at the next level. Don't get me wrong, I believe he is a college great, but it is a different game at the next level particularly at that position (same could be said from hs to D1) and for that reason we could go and on about "Can't miss" draftees that were complete busts, let alone just average players with solid careers.
Says the only Jets fan in Pittsburgh.Even the jets won't blow this one. He is the most complete QB I have seen coming out of college. Every tool he has is elite. He can make every throw from a laserbeam to a lob with touch. Plus he has amazing wheels for a 6' 6" 240 pound man.
I believe the jets have quite a few first rounders they got from Seattle for the Safety Jamaal Adams. Something like 5 first rounders in the next 2 years. He will take his lumps the first couple years, but, if they cash in with these other picks, I expect he will have the Jets in the hunt in year 4 or 5.
Texas recordsVince Young had ONE good season. He is not even in the conversation. Lawrence had 3 great seasons.Vince Young College Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
Vince Young - Texas (QB)www.sports-reference.com
Texas records
10-3
11-1
13-0
That looks like more than one good season!
Not a Jets fan. Yes, I was wrong. The Jets may very well have blown their chance. I just didn't think anyone could be that stupid. Who knows, they are so dumb, they might not pick him anyway even if they get the chance. They are a shame. The easiest thing to do is just lose, and they couldn't even do that! LolSays the only Jets fan in Pittsburgh.
I could not agree more. Pulling a Manning is the right play here. He’s the most NFL ready, can’t miss QB in forever, but if he goes to the Jets he may never be heard from again.He should
That’s a dumpster heap of an organization
Even cleveland got their shit together
To play devil’s advocate: have you ever heard of a professional athlete refusing to play in the New York market? If the rumors are true that they’ll be targeting an experienced, well-respected head coach, perhaps the Jets could be the team that comes together in a short time period? Lots of draft capital and promising prospects on both sides of the ball.I could not agree more. Pulling a Manning is the right play here. He’s the most NFL ready, can’t miss QB in forever, but if he goes to the Jets he may never be heard from again.
On the other hand, you can almost see the Pats and Belichik giving their first 3 draft picks and half of their starters to the Jets to get him-and if they did so, the way they work free agency they’d probably be back to the Super Bowl in 3 years.
Similar to Mahomes. They are both future HOF players if they stay healthy.Does Lawrence remind you of any QB in years past?
I would say Peyton Manning due to his arm, but Lawrence is a much better athlete. Hard to think of someone that has “all the tools.”Does Lawrence remind you of any QB in years past?
And they did! J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets!Even the jets won't blow this one. He is the most complete QB I have seen coming out of college. Every tool he has is elite. He can make every throw from a laserbeam to a lob with touch. Plus he has amazing wheels for a 6' 6" 240 pound man.
I believe the jets have quite a few first rounders they got from Seattle for the Safety Jamaal Adams. Something like 5 first rounders in the next 2 years. He will take his lumps the first couple years, but, if they cash in with these other picks, I expect he will have the Jets in the hunt in year 4 or 5.
He sends a Christmas Card, and a fruit basket with a picture of him holding the Heisman to Ron Cook every year, as a thank you.One of the best college players ever. Would have been the #1 pick aftet his FR season.....and may win 0 Heisman Trophies. That would be a crime. Jason White has one.
Cam Newton when young and healthyDoes Lawrence remind you of any QB in years past?
As I said before there is a reason Darnold is available. As a backup fine. But the Steelers are now in the market for Ben's replacement.I thought the word on the street was that the Jets were drafting Lawrence at #1 and then moving Darnold to the Steelers for a 5th rounder. Frankly I think that’s a good move for the Steelers. Darnold is first round pedigreed but has been given complete trash to work with. Put him behind a decent line with the Steelers receiving corps to bail him out and watch him make a Pro Bowl in a few years.
Cam Newton when young and healthy
The team was really good, he himself wasn’t very good his first 2 seasons though. Vince Young was maybe the biggest high school recruit in the country, but I think most people would say he had been somewhat of a bust those first 2 years.
I don’t disagreeHe's light years where cam was at the same time passing the ball.
I don’t disagree
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