Steelers vs Browns Gamethread
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It was doubly stupid
If you’re going to punt without a penalty - keep the offense on the field at least to pretend it’s a real play
they have done enough respecting Ben for his career. He’s made a ton of $$$$ with the respect the franchise has shown him. Players say this is a business, and they need to have a business discussion with him. They have a terrific receiver group and Ben is going to get one of them hurt with his candy arm.
Right but you can't find a buyer so it's one more year. Eat the cash sandwich and draft what you can. Focus on a Ben replacement in 2022. Lawrence is a nice dream but off the table. Darnold from the Jets might be possible. Maybe the Stillers program works. I don't know.
A buyer? Why on earth would anyone even consider "buying" him? At this point the only question should be if he retires or if he doesn't want to if the Stillers tell him he needs to retire or he'll get cut.
And then if he still doesn't want to retire, you cut him.
One hit both hands of the receiver and another was hit at LOS.
Yeah, I know he didn't play well but you guys are deranged in your hate for the guy.
Tomlin has the lifetime contract courtesy of the Rooneys. The only way he won't be head coach of the Steelers is if he decides to move on. Knowing he will be the coach for the forseeable future has to dampen the enthusiasm anyone has for this team going forward.
We have been a bumbling mess under him the last so many years either missing the playoffs or getting pasted by lesser teams when we do get there. Considering the cap problems, this team needs a rebuild and I wouldn't mind if they started with a new coaching staff.
You understand that when a quarterback is continually getting passes batted down at the line of scrimmage that that's his fault, right?
Apparently not.
I mean seriously, after that performance you want to be the guy sticking up for him? Really?
He was awful tonight when it mattered. And he was good when it didn't. Which is a terrible thing for a quarterback at any level.
If you the Ben lost this game you really are an idiot. This whole team was flat garbage. Every plater and coach. This was still a game in the 4th quarter.
Judging by his reaction it looks like Ben knows he played his last game
If you think that he wasn't the main person responsible for that loss then you clearly don't understand football.
Ben didn’t lose the game by himself but he had a big hand in it. When youre making 40 million far more is expected. The kid on the wash team played better
He had fewer passes batted down than Cleveland did tonight despite over 50 passes. Every team gets passes batted down every game.
I don't disagree at all. $40 million means squat when the team and coaches around you are sub par and remember that $40 million was part of a larger contract he extended to try and keep the team competitive. This was bound to happen eventually, so using thst argument is really short sighted.
Lot of blame to go around, but #7 was obviously the main culprit.
I don’t think anyone is really hating on him, but enough is enough. Other than the 2nd half of the Indy game he has been a bad QB for many games now. QBR isn’t a perfect stat, but it had him as the 21st ranked QB in the league for a reason.
He is in the bottom half of QB’s in the league right now and would go into next season rated as the worst starter in the division by most. I don’t know exactly what an extra 19 million in cap space would buy the Steeler’s next year, but they definitely need to cut Roethlisberger and find out.
He led the NFL this season in the number of passes batted down at the line of scrimmage.
Yes
3 Turnovers by him/ one really pouncey /
Ended any chance
When your offense scored -7 points in the first snap
And his play killed more drives than anyone else
I don’t think they’ll have to cut him. Like I said the look I saw at the end of the game makes me think he knows it’s time to hang it up. I also think he knows that the OL is a big issue and unlike when he was younger and could escape that could get him. Killed
He’s certainly the leader in 2 yard pass attempts by a huge margain
And both of those things are a product of his right arm turning into a noodle.
That’s certainly part of it. But I’d also add that what made him great was his ability to extend plays. Now that he’s immobile he can’t do that he has to go through his progressions quicker which I don’t think was ever a strong suit for him like say a Brady
Yeah, I agree. He's trying to cover up for the physical limitations that he's dealing with at his age. He was able to fool people earlier in the season, but the longer he played the more clear it became to everyone that he just doesn't have the same physical gifts that he did when he was younger.
If he had their fire and dedication Brady has he might have a shot to come back. Many thought last year Brady was done But it appears he worked hard on his arm and conditioning. Ben has never been a workout warrior and that has caught up with him
Two things I’ll include to what contributed to tonight’s loss:
1. The sack streak came to an in unceremonious end. Something was definitely off if the league’s best pass rush, led by the likely DPOY, couldn’t get through such a depleted offensive line.
2. A glaring trend has emerged: Not counting Super Bowl XLV (NFC opponent), all but one of the Steelers’ playoff losses under Tomlin has come against teams who they already played in the regular season. To me, that says that teams know how to adjust to our game plan and we struggle to counter those counters.
1. The sack streak came to an in unceremonious end. Something was definitely off if the league’s best pass rush, led by the likely DPOY, couldn’t get through such a depleted offensive line.
2. A glaring trend has emerged: Not counting Super Bowl XLV (NFC opponent), all but one of the Steelers’ playoff losses under Tomlin has come against teams who they already played in the regular season. To me, that says that teams know how to adjust to our game plan and we struggle to counter those counters.
I guess it depends on what you definition of hating on is.
He was really bad tonight and the main reason the Steelers lost this game. He was once a great QB and is below average now, I’m not trying to hate on him, but facts are facts.
But hey, he gets the pass out in 2 seconds. I’m tired of hearing that stat of how fast he gets the ball out. What it really means, he has to throw quickly 2-5 yards down field. No more down field throws like he used to do sitting in the pocket or scrambling and tossing deep.
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